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I think that's a big thing, even 5 years ago veggie options were an after thought most places other than an indian now loads of places have great veggie and vegan options.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
It used to just be a mushroom in a bun or nothing:hehe:
cheese pizza ( of the kids menu ) or veggie burger used to be the normQuote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
funniest one for me, and this was only 3 years ago, went to a fairly nice " gastro pub " , they had a stuffed peppper ( which i hate ) or a mushroom risotto , sounded great, i ordered it, came out with shavings of parmesan cheese on, now this isnt Veggie, so back it goes, its listed as Veggie on the menu, so i somewhat expect it to be veggie, out comes a new plate ( or the same with the cheese removed, i will never know ) the chef comes out and offers his apologies, fair enough, now my food is getting cold ( in hindsight its a good job i will not eat till the chef or server has left the table ) as he explains how some veggies as happy with parmesan cheese, as he is chattin, my wife asks his how the rice is made, oh he says " i always use chicken stock " :angry: , i ended up with a starter of garlic bread and that was it
But again BlueMatt it’s all about the vegan grub “Looking like meat”
Why would you want a beetroot steak with beet juice or replica blood?
I can’t knock it cos I haven’t tried it but the fake mock meat I don’t understand?
You don’t eat meat fine - but why have plant based replica products?
I know I’m thick but I just can’t get my head around it!!
its just a familiarity, we think of a burger as a round patty shape, a steak is a lump of meat shape, a prawn a prawn etc etcQuote:
Originally Posted by Padraig1968
The blood thing as i said is a little too far, but i guess as its a meat substitute, its made to look like meat
i wouldnt care what shape it is, as long as it tastes nice and has some nutritional value
At last we have an answer from a poster - who is a bona fide Veggie may I add which makes complete sense - FAMILIARITY
that’s it!!!
Vegans or Veggies eat plant based food which is purposely made to look like meat products purely based on FAMILIARITY!!
Thank you BLUEMATT or from now on you’ll always be in my eyes “The Wise Old Man From The Himalayas’’.
I salute you sir 😃👍
Maybe because some people who are veggie or vegan still like the look, texture and taste of meat but eating it goes against everything that they believe in, nothing wrong with that. People vape to replicate smoking and some people drink non alcoholic drinks that are supposed to taste like alcoholic drinks, it's probably because they enjoyed drinking and smoking at certain times but don't want to put the shit into their body so they replicate the action as closely as possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Padraig1968
Considering you probably shop in a supermarket and that 99% of the meat there ( same in Ireland) is conveyer belt stuff, one is then left to make the choice....Quote:
Originally Posted by Padraig1968
Be true to the sadness you feel for these creatures, show some compassion and mettle, a bit of integrity and reject these products.
Or just give in to your desires....because you are weak.
Whether or not you eat a quorn chorizo after that is incidental and arbitrary.
The pigs wont hold it against you I can assure you.
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Originally Posted by MacAdder
Plagiarism !!! Tut tut !!
See my offering on Page Two of this thread lol
May seem a silly question but I genuinely don't know as I am neither. I thought cheese was veggie but not vegan. Lots of so called veggies I know eat cheese, so are they being disingenuous claiming to be vegetarian?Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
Cheese is dairy
Most vegans eat it
It’s the other mob that only eat nuts and pulses that don’t eat cheese 🧀
Except the italians- their mozzarella is made from a buffalo
Fecking confused cos I am? 😂
There are several different levels from Pescatarian through to full on vegan. Some don’t eat meat but eat other dairy products such as eggs.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
Most vegans do not eat dairy at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Padraig1968
What about eggs?
And why do we have Chocolate eggs at Easter?
The Easter Bunny has never laid an egg in its life 🤔
Because almost all religions take on myths, traditions and stories from previous belief systems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Padraig1968
So do vegans eat chocolate eggs?
You're being silly now. If it contains dairy products ...no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Padraig1968
Or eggs or honey.Quote:
Originally Posted by J R Hartley
I've been a veggie half my long life. Never quite stopped milk, although am trying.
most cheese ( from the UK ) is Veggie, in the EU ( especially in the EU ) and USA, its a lotteryQuote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
parmesan isnt though ( gorgonzola isnt either ) they contain calf rennet in the ingredient, they cannot be called parmesan or gorgonzola if they do not contain the calf rennet ( as a side note, if you are veggie and want parmesan cheese, you can by veggie " hard cheese " )
:hehe::thumbup::thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Padraig1968
Most Veggies eat Cheese and dairyQuote:
Originally Posted by Padraig1968
Vegan = No Dairy ( Milk, Cheese, Eggs ) or anything that comes from a animal
Vegans also very in terms of those who won’t wear leather, no leather car seats etc vs those who are dietary only vegans
Ever eat in that greasy vegan place in town... then don’t wear your fur. They get upset by it.
I'm veggie and will only eat cheese that does not contain parts of a calf 's stomach. Similarly I would not eat sweets that contain ground up animal bones, ie gelatine.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
I regret that I have not given up dairy products, but am reducing consumption a lot.
The one thing I find odd is why a vegitarian or vegan would go into an establishment like Macdonalds and order a non meat option...even a coffee.
If they feel so strong about animal welfare why line the pockets of people who probably have a hand in slaughtering more cows than any other corporation on the globe.
Just a thought, when they do walk into one of these establishments, do they do so with leather shoes on? :sherlock:Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Tone
I don’t understand veggies who don’t eat meat because of animal welfare. The dairy industry is just as brutal as the meat industry, so why abstain from one and not the other?
You assume all vegans are vegans to save animals?
Poor assumption.
I haven’t read the thread but I can imagine how it’s gone. I haven’t eaten meat for nearly 20 years but have never really understood why meat eaters are so militant with their views. Give me a preachy vegan over an ill informed carnivore any day.
Lots of whatabouterism on this thread, as with a lot conversation about veggies/vegans.
For some reason a lot of meat eaters can't go "you don't eat meat for personal reasons? ok" - they go "BUT WHAT ABOUT THIS, WHAT ABOUT THAT"
The only thing I can think of is it's insecurity brought on by seeing people making a principled stand about something, it makes people incredibly defensive.
Everybody knows that mass farming is cruel (and if you can convince yourself you don't, give it a quick search on youtube)
Some people love meat so much they can turn a blind eye, fine - meat's delicious and it's a short life we've got so you might not want to deprive yourself of something you love. That's your choice.
Others decide they'd rather not eat meat, which for some reason is a red rag to some meat eaters and leads to "WHY EAT PRODUCTS THAT LOOK LIKE MEAT? "WHAT ABOUT SHOES" "WHY AREN'T YOU VEGAN THEN" "CAVEMEN ATE MEAT" etc
It's bizarre :shrug:
Don't get me wrong, I know there's a lot of preachy vegetarians and vegans, but I'd say proportionally there's just as many if not more preachy meat eaters. This thread's a good example - as far as I can see none of the veggies are digging the meat eaters out for their diet choices, not even me and I'm a level 5 vegan - I don't eat anything that casts a shadow.
Who’s that directed at?Quote:
Originally Posted by Q
Convenience I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Tone
I fear Padraigs fishing expedition has gone rather well.
You're thinking of his "Why do Pescatarians.....?" thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock
I am not sure many vegans would go into Macdonalds . Not the ones I have met anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Tone
I guess the practice is getting ever popular when Greggs get fantastic publicity with the vegan sausage roll.
Lol.....Very good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heisenberg
I was out when Louth chipped in . Who probably is Padraig.
Do either or both of those tribes appear in any Star Trex episodesQuote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
Really quite surprising how many vegans/veggies there are on this board. Perhaps the club should do a FGR and just serve veggie food at CCS.
You know you want to.
This thread is a nothingburger.
Yea we dont eat Geletine either, a bugger when the kids were younger and going to softplay parties, always came out with a " goodie bag " with them small bags of Haribo, had to always remember to take a bag or a safe sweets ( though my girls did like the small bags of rasians ) to swap it withQuote:
Originally Posted by jeremy corbyn
No leather for me, at Christmas got the wife a pair of Vegan DM's, 140 quid :frown:Quote:
Originally Posted by MacAdder
Normal DMs are like £120 or £130 so not too bad consideringQuote:
Originally Posted by blue matt