I'm not upset (with you or anyone). What I would love to learn, as I mentioned recently, is how I managed collect you as a detractor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heisenberg
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I'm not upset (with you or anyone). What I would love to learn, as I mentioned recently, is how I managed collect you as a detractor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heisenberg
I've not looked for it, but a channel i was watching a little earlier did say that it has been restored. It's a very informative video.Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
I am aware that Covid-19 is not the flu. I've been fully aware of that all along and given your previous remarks on the subject it's more than a little ironic that it's you now attempting to highlight that to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
Regardless, I was reacting to your post in which you said, and I quote: "When I was circa 18-20 I had seasonal flu for the only time. I'd never felt so ill; didn't have the strength to get out of bed for at least a week. I wouldn't fancy contracting similar nearly 40 years on. It's no surprise to me that 90% of UK dead are 60+ and that the mortality rate for those younger is minuscule because it has always been the way as anyone who has been able to filter out the hysteria is able to determine."
I was pointing out that, contrary to your claim, it has certainly not always been the way that the flu is most deadly in people 60+. Obviously. And, of course, we have no idea how 'it has always been' with Covid-19 as it's a newly-discovered virus about which much is still unknown.
I'm finding it increasingly difficult to work out whether you're simply trying and failing to cover for the glaring errors you keep making on this subject or if you're genuinely losing your mind. A lot of your responses during the last couple of weeks have been more in keeping with this board's least intelligent contributors than with your own past efforts. I don't know what's happening to you, but it's quite alarming.
If we didn't give/offer the over 65's the Flu jab what would be the effect be on the over 60 death statistics?Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
Flu/seasonal flu strains is/are viruses, coronaviruses. The World Health Organisation in 2017 estimated that between 290K and 650K people die worldwide each year with strains of Influenza A and B. Some years are worse than others when more virulent strains do the rounds hence the wide disparity. You may have have noted I typed 'with' just then. I did so because in responses to you the other day I repeatedly stated people had died 'with (not of) COVID-19 for the same reason (which evidently you didn't pay attention to).Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
It matters not whether COVID-19 is defined as a type of flu or not because it is a virus, causes a viral infection and is a contributory factor in killing people.
I have never heard anyone describe flu/seasonal flu being a virus in spite of it/them being viruses. A or the virus sounds much scarier than flu - would you agree?
I don't recall hearing any news relating to a minimum of 290K people croaking with seasonal flu strains in years prior. Do you? This COVID-19 - another coronavirus let's not forget - has attracted wall-to-wall hyped publicity and instigated global lockdowns for months, and yet thus far COVID-19 has contributed to just 219K global deaths.
Perhaps we should rebrand seasonal flu strains to 'viruses' or, better still, 'the virus' so that we can have eternal lockdowns in order to protect lives? What do you say?
It's an inconvenient truth that 290K, 650K, a figure somewhere between those two or many multiples of them is neither here nor there when set against a global population of 7.8 billion. So far 22 thousand Britons have died with Covid-19 out of a 67 million population; another insignificant fraction... an irrelevance - more died (27K) from seasonal flu strains in 2014/2015 without the corporate media, you or anyone else having a hysterical breakdown.
You've been played. So have the great majority. That's because, I'll wager, you and they are telly addicts. I'll also wager you nor they even realise they're addicted. Throw yours in the skip. It'll improve your cognitive capacity immeasurably.
Up to 650 000 people die of respiratory diseases linked to seasonal flu each year - https://www.who.int/news-room/detail...-flu-each-year
I think you've lost all grip on reality. That's assuming you ever had any.Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
You've never heard anyone describe flu as a virus? Are you serious?
I give up. You truly are a hopeless case.
This is genuinely one of the most amazing things I've ever seen posted on this message board. It's beyond belief in every sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
It is? Rebut it then. Let's have you.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
How can I rebut that nonsense? How would such a thing be possible? How on earth could I demonstrate that you have indeed heard people refer to the flu as a virus, as I have on countless occasions? For all I know you haven't talked to another human being in thirty years, let alone talked to anyone about flu viruses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
This is also bollocks, by the way. Influenza is not a coronavirus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
http://www.labnews.co.uk/article/203...-a-type-of-flu
I'll concede seasonal flu strains are not coronaviruses. Everything else I submitted stands.
These COVID-19 lockdowns have opened the door for more of the same. All will be required would be to foment enough fear.
You wagered earlier that I'm a TV addict. That's another bet you would have lost. However, I did watch a SKY documentary today on the effect of the coronavirus in the USA and in particular in New York. It was very good. What has been happening in NYC in recent weeks put me in mind of the scenes in the PBS documentary I watched last week regarding the Spanish flu pandemic in 1918. Apparently, they are currently burying an average of almost five times more bodies per week in the city's unmarked grave site on Hart Island than they usually do. Grim stuff, but I guess the poor bastards who are digging those graves are just being played.Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
https://www.theguardian.com/global/v...us-surge-video
Thankfully the Spoons will open by June and the economy .saved
I see Organ is looking down his nose at everyone else, again. But wait a minute...what's this in the opening post of his Coronavirus fear/mega-doom thread?Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
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Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
I never turn on the TV news as a rule but I'd been reading endless scare stories related to coronavirus for a week prior to when I watched the BBC 1pm news on two successive days in late January. The first time it led with 18 deaths worldwide due to a new virus then the next day it again led with the same story but the new total was at 26. The logical part of my noggin asked how on earth can 8 new deaths out of a global population of approaching 8 billion be the most important news anywhere on the planet?
I had followed the saga at another forum - godlikeproductions - which I've visited most days for donkey's years. It's a self-styled conspiracy/nutters/crazies board which is excellent for breaking news stories and is always very busy. I knew from the outset it was the opposite of what it portrayed itself as. It's real purpose is to spread fear and fake propaganda at every turn. It's also a honeytrap which is why I have never created an account there to post a message.
The coronavirus thread there which caught my attention is still active and stretches to almost 9,000 pages, believe it or not, and there's been, at a guess, 10,000 other threads on the same subject. It went all in on coronavirus hysteria before corporate media did later.
I'm thoroughly enjoying the lockdown measures more and more with each passing week. The much quieter, gentler pace of life is simply marvellous. I see what I interpret as increasing dejection/exasperation on so many faces as an indicator that others have a different perspective, but that's their concern and not mine.
I note the worse months in the UK for seasonal flu deaths are December through March. Whether COVID-19 hangs around or not I'd like to see these lockdown rules imposed for those four months every year.
Great observation, the quietness and gentle pace has been a major positive, I know much has been spoken about mental anguish , I do wonder though if some have benefitted from the removal of the horrible hustle, bustle and anguish , normal life brings ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
I haven't checked how many workers have been furloughed but I know it's a great many. I suppose for some 20% less pay while putting their feet up at home is a welcome break while others are suffering as they need more than 80% to meet all their expenses. The good news is the government, should it choose to, could carry on paying them up to £2,600 per month indefinitely.
I think that's one of biggest social benefits ever seen , its incredible it came from the Tories and even matched with other social minded countries its pretty impressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
I get the sense that when Morg looks in his fishing net in the morning he might be a little disappointed with the catch!
I'm sure I read recently that Universal Credit claimants had been awarded £20 per week extra for a year and that equals a 25%+ rise on the basic allowance of a single person. Yes, Tories shovelling dough towards benefit claimants (gasps all round).Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
For a decade or more the government pretended it hadn't a pot to piss in. In 2017 Prime Minister May said "there's no magic money tree" in response to a nurse who asked why she hadn't received a pay rise in eight years. Well, there was and is a magic money tree (called QE) that when she spoke had gifted 434 billion pounds free of any charges to government and Sunak will be raiding that same magic money tree over and over in the months and years ahead.
I have the impression you walk around with a glum expression, Cyril. Stand up straight, stomach in, chest out to laugh in the face of adversity. It's the British way.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
After a suitable period of quiet reflection I can well understand should you indeed have a face down to your arse.
I would too if I had to suffer quite possibly the UK's dopiest nephew.
You can choose your friends but not your family Morg. Stay safe:thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
He's talking about the nephew! That's me!Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
Organ has made more spectacularly wrong calls this year than anyone I've seen on ccmb, and I include gluey in that.
So for him to call me dopey is a massive relief... Don't know what I'd do if he agreed with me.
Have you banged your head, and suddenly forgotten about the Steele dossier, Russia collusion, Obstruction of Justice & the Mueller report, etc?Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
Maybe you should re-read the masterpiece that is The Donald Trump Thread, where you are the star of the show.
I think he's currently lacking a bit of self esteem, he is currently wondering if he's important enough to be included in the usual suspects, are you going to tell him or me :hehe: PS, Just for the sake of clarity, he isn't or ever will be, he just doesn't get it!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Speaking of masterpieces any sign of that Chinese aircraft carrier arriving off Syria :sherlock:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Russia Hoax is the biggest political scandal in American history. Treason!!! Lets see how it ends???? <a href="https://t.co/VRsVdiQrsf">https://t.co/VRsVdiQrsf</a></p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1256628709496369152?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 2, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Quote:
Originally Posted by Packerman
The bad news is 28,131 Britons have died with or from COVID-19.
The good news, which never gets mentioned by corporate media (I can't think why), is that 67,829,449 of us remain, says WHO numbers https://www.worldometers.info/world-...uk-population/
Expressed as a percentage, 99.96% are still kicking.
Yes because every other news bulletin in history ends withQuote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
‘10 people died today but don’t worry 67,829,439 people remain today.
Tune in tomorrow goodnight’
:hehe: quiteQuote:
Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2
It's an absolutely ridiculous point.
Heart attacks are by far the biggest cause of death, but they don't stop selling the types of food that cause them.Quote:
Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2
I was suggesting context is never provided to counter their own narrative of there being a huge health crisis.Quote:
Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2
I discovered earlier of a pandemic that hit Blighty that I hadn't knew of previously. It wasn't Spanish Flu of 1918, nor Asian Flu in 1957 but Hong Kong Flu of 1968/1969 that killed 33K Britons. Sad for those 33 thousand souls, just like the 28K today, but in the scheme of things worthy of an unconcerned yawn and stretch. Worldwide 'fatalities ranged from 1-3m' says this BBC article http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8027501.stm. Oh, and you'd never guess, they didn't bother with any lockdowns.
Also, British abortions are running at over 200K per year. The UK COVID-19 related dead could be replaced seven-fold by applying a one-year moratorium on abortions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
How contagious are Big Macs?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
The death rate from Covid 19 is significant, but as you always say is lower than a lot of other diseases.Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
What you never acknowledge is that the Covid 19 death rate has been massively suppressed by the social distancing measures, and if allowed to rip would be a lot higher (up to 10x higher depending on which model you prefer); it would overwhelm every health service in the world and ensure many more deaths for non Covid 19 reasons; it would have caused major economic and social disruption regardless of government responses.
You seem to be wedded to the 'herd immunity' response - just let it do its worst, and after 2-3 months many businesses may have coughed their way through the crisis and in the UK 250,000 mainly older people will have died.
That is a view considered and rejected by most policymakers and economic/health advisers around the world - even though they know full well the economic damage that lock-down causes. They have concluded that short term pain and protection of the vulnerable is the right thing to do. You seem to disagree partly on the grounds that the economic self-harm is too severe, but mainly because you want to see more evidence of a New World Order conspiracy playing out (with compliant media) into some depopulated, oligarch controlled, slave society that you have bought into.
Your attempts to avoid looking idiotic in connection with your Covid-19 conspiracy theories appear to be getting ever more desperate. The bad news for you is that it's way too late for any of that. You've already made a right fool of yourself and your past pronouncements are sounding increasingly ridiculous with every passing day. I'd draw stumps if I were you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Organ Morgan.
Food doesn't cause heart failure. It's a bit like saying that ladders are responsible for head fractures if you fall of one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
You are what you eat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto