Dominic Cummings to make public statement this afternoon

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Hes deluded

He should be seeing a psychiatrist

I will give him a few contacts

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Adult high-functioning autism, by the look of it. Explains his intellectual capacity, poor social skills and over-reaction to the situation whilst being protective of his wife and child. Put simply he doesn't comprehend, in terms of normal social parameters what he has done wrong. If he wasn't a senior adviser to the government, he could just as easily be living on the streets. Not an easy person to work with or get on with but you can see why Johnson wants him on the team as he does the thinking for him.
Psychiatrist....maybe. Psychologist....maybe. Counselling...definately.

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Here's an eyetest for those who are considering a car journey anywhere

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EY4G5z2X...jpg&name=small

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He wasn't sure he was fit to drive so he put his wife and child in the car for a spin to find out. Why not leave them at home in that case and follow any fathers instinct?

I'm trying my best to keep a balanced view. The good thing is that he gave every journalist the opportunity to question him and I guess many of us would do the best we could for our immediate families in similar circumstances. However, he gave a ludicrous account of his visit to Barnard Castle as that clearly was against the rules whatever the circumstances. The eyesight story was plainly daft. He seemed to have selective amnesia about his discussions with Boris Johnson and questions have to be asked whether his account was honest. Whichever way you look at it he broke the rules when he went to Barnard Castle and that alone would probably have forced any other senior public servant to resign.

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Adult high-functioning autism, by the look of it. Explains his intellectual capacity, poor social skills and over-reaction to the situation whilst being protective of his wife and child. Put simply he doesn't comprehend, in terms of normal social parameters what he has done wrong. If he wasn't a senior adviser to the government, he could just as easily be living on the streets. Not an easy person to work with or get on with but you can see why Johnson wants him on the team as he does the thinking for him.
Psychiatrist....maybe. Psychologist....maybe. Counselling...definately.

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Ritalin ?

After that farce im suprised hes wanted as an adviser.

Wrong on all sorts. Is it ok to put a 17 year old at risk.?

Im sick of these Tory twats sticking up for him.

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I'm trying my best to keep a balanced view. The good thing is that he gave every journalist the opportunity to question him and I guess many of us would do the best we could for our immediate families in similar circumstances. However, he gave a ludicrous account of his visit to Barnard Castle as that clearly was against the rules whatever the circumstances. The eyesight story was plainly daft. He seemed to have selective amnesia about his discussions with Boris Johnson and questions have to be asked whether his account was honest. Whichever way you look at it he broke the rules when he went to Barnard Castle and that alone would probably have forced any other senior public servant to resign.

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I hope he stays and drags down scruffy with him

Virologist expert from nottingham university is astounded by cummings actions

But sod that , senior tories think the boy done good

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I'm trying my best to keep a balanced view. The good thing is that he gave every journalist the opportunity to question him and I guess many of us would do the best we could for our immediate families in similar circumstances. However, he gave a ludicrous account of his visit to Barnard Castle as that clearly was against the rules whatever the circumstances. The eyesight story was plainly daft. He seemed to have selective amnesia about his discussions with Boris Johnson and questions have to be asked whether his account was honest. Whichever way you look at it he broke the rules when he went to Barnard Castle and that alone would probably have forced any other senior public servant to resign.

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Questions to be asked if the account was honest? Plural?

I disagree. Just the one single question to be asked.

Q. Was the account honest?

A. No

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Ritalin ?

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Not sure about that. Ritalin is more for ADHD, as I understand it.

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He wasn't sure he was fit to drive so he put his wife and child in the car for a spin to find out. Why not leave them at home in that case and follow any fathers instinct?

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After packing up the car before heading home to London, then taking the trip to Barnard Castle to see if he was safe to drive home,they went back to Durham and headed to London the next day. Any good father would have gone to Barnard Castle for a test drive again the next day as his eye sight may have changed. Shame on him.

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After packing up the car before heading home to London, then taking the trip to Barnard Castle to see if he was safe to drive home,they went back to Durham and headed to London the next day. Any good father would have gone to Barnard Castle for a test drive again the next day as his eye sight may have changed. Shame on him.

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Any good father would not have taken his child if there were doubts about eyesight. But simply visiting there (with or without his family) was against the rules as they existed at the time.

He was selfless in reducing the number of Covid-19 cases in the London area. By three.

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Any good father would not have taken his child if there were doubts about eyesight. But simply visiting there (with or without his family) was against the rules as they existed at the time.

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I thought my sarcasm was explicit. Apologies.

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Should have gone to Bernard castle is excellent :hehe:

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I was just wondering how long it took him and his mates to come up with the cover story for his visit there. Poor lads must have been up all night and that's all that they could come up with. They need to take a long hard look at themselves. Surely they could have done better. It's enough to make a competent spin doctor cry.

He has clearly broken the government rules (if not the law) by driving to Durham and back to 'self isolate' - although he only knew his wife was unwell at the start of the journey (becoming sick himself overnight), that makes the breach worse!

His smokescreens and excuses are pathetic: 'threats' at his London home (no longer an issue!), his importance to government, his failure to seek family support in London and choice to put his close family and potentially nieces at risk, the 'exceptional' (but sadly very common) circumstances of having a young child in the household (who became ill after spending hours in close proximity in a car with sick parents), the private land he was out walking in on two occasions whilst 'self isolating', his failure to inform Johnson and Johnson's failure to question where he had been for 2 weeks, the day trip with wife and child to a pretty market town to check his eyesight (with a stroll and sit on riverside bench) and his turning the crisis into one of media 'misreporting' and whether he should or should not have returned to work.

Load of self-serving crap!

It looks as if the Mail, the scientists, the bishops, a hard core of Tory MPs, a lot of Tory voters as well as the opposition are totally underwhelmed by that performance, even if it has stopped other Tory MPs joining in the demands for action. He has not drawn a line. This will either continue to fester or Johnson will have to dump him. The political damage (and public health credibility crisis) is just growing.

The bells and whistles on this story don't change the basic central fact - Cummings broke the lock-down rules he had helped to design by driving to Durham and not staying at home.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52784152

Government advice for households where one or more members have coronavirus symptoms is simple - stay at home.

Official guidance published in March says "it is very important that individuals with symptoms that may be due to coronavirus and their household members stay at home". This still applies.

The guidance outlines ways to pass the time and obtain food and medicine.

However, it does acknowledge that it is not always straightforward when children are involved.

It says: "If you have children, keep following this advice to the best of your ability, however, we are aware that not all these measures will be possible."

The guidance has been on the government website since 12 March, before lockdown was imposed.

The day after lockdown began, 24 March, the deputy chief medical officer for England, Dr Jenny Harries, clarified who could look after a child if both parents or carers were incapacitated.

She said: "Clearly if you have adults who are unable to look after a small child, that is an exceptional circumstance.

"And if the individuals do not have access to care support - formal care support - or to family, they will be able to work through their local authority hubs."

The government says that those with no one to help with getting food, prescriptions or other essentials, could get support from NHS volunteers, or should contact their local council.

I think they call it levelling up 😞

Given that his wife was poorly and that he might get poorly and there was possibly going to be a problem with an infant care,

1) If he is so vital to the nation's health, couldn't he have phoned a contact to set up child care if needed at home

2) Do you travel 270 miles - thus truly isolating oneself from the seat of government - and give yourself the problem of how to get back where he was so desperately needed.

3) If he thought through his problems and came up with that solution, God help us with the decisions re: national health that he is making.

Get rid - out of his own mouth he has admitted his incompetence.

And this is the genius mastermind who plays 4d chess which us mere mortals can't understand ? God help us all

All of the Tories tweeting support are using the same words, almost like it had been dictated to them perhaps. Remember when we were scared of a communist being in charge ?

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Given that his wife was poorly and that he might get poorly and there was possibly going to be a problem with an infant care,

1) If he is so vital to the nation's health, couldn't he have phoned a contact to set up child care if needed at home

2) Do you travel 270 miles - thus truly isolating oneself from the seat of government - and give yourself the problem of how to get back where he was so desperately needed.

3) If he thought through his problems and came up with that solution, God help us with the decisions re: national health that he is making.

Get rid - out of his own mouth he has admitted his incompetence.

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On March 27th he got the phone call from his wife who said she was ill. He rushed home to see his wife then later went back to work. Later that day they drove Durham.

So he was in contact with someone with symptoms then went back to work, presumably where he had contact with others.

Dear me .

Great line I just read on the BBC news website: "80% of Boris Johnson's political brain is inside Dominic Cummings' head. How could Boris sack Dom? It'd be like giving himself a lobotomy."

Keep safe folks.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Folks, I say this in all sincerity and as an important road safety issue. If you’re feeling unwell and your eyesight may be impaired do not drive your vehicle to test your ability to drive. It’s not a wise move.</p>&mdash; John Apter (@PFEW_Chair) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFEW_Chair/status/1264960043478323203?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So it looks like if you can spout a load of bollox it's game on.

So when's our next home game?

Cummings and his loony boss have now crapped on the rule book imho.

Jeeze, that pathetic performance from the lad caught in the orchard pinching apples beggars belief.

This must not go away and for the sake of democracy this bloke needs .............................

Another comment ' how can someone so full.of shit go 260 miles without a toilet break'

'Barnard Castle', Brewer's Britain & Ireland 2005:

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https://twitter.com/jwiechers/status...758884354?s=19

634k people signed the change.org petition to get him sacked.

Not sure how if something like that will help, the rich and powerful do as they please don't they.

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634k people signed the change.org petition to get him sacked.

Not sure how if something like that will help, the rich and powerful do as they please don't they.

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Yes, you've summed up politics and the UK in one sentence.

Can I ask, was anyone on here won around by Dominic Cummings yesterday or is there anyone who feels the faith they had in him was justified after hearing what he had to say?

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https://twitter.com/jwiechers/status...758884354?s=19

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If you haven't bothered clicking on this link yet, you should do - he made a point of talking about this article in his press briefing.

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Can I ask, was anyone on here won around by Dominic Cummings yesterday or is there anyone who feels the faith they had in him was justified after hearing what he had to say?

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The only thing that impressed me was that he had the guts to read us his version of events, all handwritten, and he took questions from all of the press members present and didn't try to dodge any flack.

Overall I thought our so called top reporters were dreadful.

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Overall I thought our so called top reporters were dreadful.

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There’s a surprise...,,

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The only thing that impressed me was that he had the guts to read us his version of events, all handwritten, and he took questions from all of the press members present and didn't try to dodge any flack.

Overall I thought our so called top reporters were dreadful.

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Peston asked Boris Johnson the questions he should have asked Cummings.

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The only thing that impressed me was that he had the guts to read us his version of events

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I took this as a weakness, as if he needed a cleverly worded script to avoid hanging himself. If his story was going to stand up to scrutiny, he wouldn't need to have it all written down.

This "bad eyesight" thing has been miaquoted out of context, on here and by the media, probably deliberately by the oppo leaders and media.

He said he wanted a short drive to check he was safe (this is a bit strange, I admit) - he then went on to say that he HAD BEEN dizzy with blurry eyesight at the height of his illness.
People have joined up the two statements and the myth that he "drove to test his eyesight" was born.

Louise Minchin interviewing Michael Howard (another a**ehole) pathetic

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This "bad eyesight" thing has been miaquoted out of context, on here and by the media, probably deliberately by the oppo leaders and media.

He said he wanted a short drive to check he was safe (this is a bit strange, I admit) - he then went on to say that he HAD BEEN dizzy with blurry eyesight at the height of his illness.
People have joined up the two statements and the myth that he "drove to test his eyesight" was born.

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But the bit about taking his wife and child along for this 'safety test' and stopping at a river are still correct ?

Anyone remember that vote we had to 'take back control' from the unelected elite ? To be fair not a lot was made of the result so you may have forgotten about it.

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This "bad eyesight" thing has been miaquoted out of context, on here and by the media, probably deliberately by the oppo leaders and media.

He said he wanted a short drive to check he was safe (this is a bit strange, I admit) - he then went on to say that he HAD BEEN dizzy with blurry eyesight at the height of his illness.
People have joined up the two statements and the myth that he "drove to test his eyesight" was born.

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He actually said his wife was particularly worried about his eyesight just before he mentioned going on the drive. It would be odd to highlight it that way if he didn’t think It helped to justify the drive. Either way the ‘safety’ test-drive explanation with wife and child in tow was bizarre.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UD-TwHQDDgo