Here's a petition you can sign to ask your goverment to get a trade deal you already had in the EU. It won't do any good, but it might make you feel like you got "involved".
https://www.change.org/p/boris-johns...inated-chicken
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Here's a petition you can sign to ask your goverment to get a trade deal you already had in the EU. It won't do any good, but it might make you feel like you got "involved".
https://www.change.org/p/boris-johns...inated-chicken
Is there a pecking order here ?Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
Mainland China (People's Republic of China) claim Taiwan (Republic of China) and the former refuse to have diplomatic relations with states who officially recognise the latter. The US sells arms to Taiwan, however.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Taiwan thinks it's the other way round, and once the Communist party is gone then the republic of China will be restored.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
there are some nice beaches and mountains in Taiwan, and it's pretty cheap to visit. the cherry blossoms are pretty spectacular in the spring with a fraction of the tourists (or cost) as seeing them in Japan.
the food isn't as good as China though
I don't know, but someone laid an egg.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
https://amp.ft.com/content/8a0bffe3-...mpression=true
https://twitter.com/pmdfoster/status...752596998?s=19
interesting ft article or Twitter thread on the threat our farmers face from American meat that costs half as much, mostly because of the much lower animal welfare standards
Yes. It started in the country your trying to champion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
So why aren't more butchers doing the same? If he can do it with existing trade arrangements then anyone can.Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
It's no different to that arsehole Tim Martin, who goes out of his way to try and prove that he can source cheaper but similar products outside the EU. He does so because of EU trade agreements.
EU trade deals by definition aren't optimal for individual nations due to catering for the needs of 27 different nations, hence common baseline made.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
On the other hand, the bargaining power of 27 nations representing a market of half a billion people is considerably more than we can manage on our own.Quote:
Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life
Greatest description of Tim Martin (and possibly of anyone) ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
https://twitter.com/plinketyplink2/s...202862592?s=20
That applies more to imports than exports.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
In terms of free trade, CPTPP has same GDP as EU, for example.
Slightly higher transport costs though.Quote:
Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life
Same issues arise dealing with those nations now. Cuts both ways, you factor into deals.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
You seem to be saying that the fact that your internal market is huge has no bearing on the ability to negotiate better deals to access theirs. Interesting idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by ccfc_is_my_life
In terms of GDP boost we will see between 4.9 and 6.7% less growth over 15 years under a Canada style free trade deal with the EU according to Treasury forecasts.
The UK negotiating document for the US anticipates a 0.16% boost from a US trade deal and a zero benefit from the anticipated trade deals with Australia and New Zealand.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9571421.html
Where are the big compensatory wins going to come from in your estimation given that the EU already has major trade deals with most of the rest of the large economic players?
No, I'm saying deals optimal to both sides are incredibly difficult to achieve when there are 27 nations on one side each with their own wants. Any deal is thus a diluted compromise.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Time will tell with regards to deals.
It may be me, but there seem to be quite a few people who are not bothered if the economy dips because of Brexit, and they're the same people that want Britain out of lockdown to avoid damaging the economy.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Pandemic lockdown having a greater effect, I suspect, than Brexit will so I'd disagree with conflating the two.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
Brexit wasn't going to cause all non-food stores to close for example, or schools closed etc.
I eat it in America, I wouldn't notice any difference, although it is usually covered in Jack Daniels sauce or something?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk