Re: Premier League football back today
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Originally Posted by
splott parker
We can blame technology all we like, if that incident occurred in a game in, say, 1930 or even a parks game, you’d 100% expect the officials to get it correct, it was as much, if not more, human error as much as VAR and Hawkeye’s fault.
I remember Roy Caroll being about 500ft behind the goal line, behind the stands and in the car park at Old Trafford when he pushed the ball back out of the goal for Man Utd.
Reading v Watford (I think) about 10 years ago had a ghost goal given when the ball went over the line... but it was the wrong side of the post.
Goal-line technology is absolutely required as the human eye is shit at getting these decisions right. Until yesterday, Hawkeye had done it's job correctly 100% of the time since it had been implemented. I'd take one Hawkeye mistake in several years over trusting the human eye, any day of the week.
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Re: Premier League football back today
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Originally Posted by
Heisenberg
I remember Roy Caroll being about 500ft behind the goal line, behind the stands and in the car park at Old Trafford when he pushed the ball back out of the goal for Man Utd.
Reading v Watford (I think) about 10 years ago had a ghost goal given when the ball went over the line... but it was the wrong side of the post.
Goal-line technology is absolutely required as the human eye is shit at getting these decisions right. Until yesterday, Hawkeye had done it's job correctly 100% of the time since it had been implemented. I'd take one Hawkeye mistake in several years over trusting the human eye, any day of the week.
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Of course technology helps but the few mistakes that you’ve mention stand out a mile because of the rarity of them whereas in the history of football (pre VAR etc) there’s been thousands of similar goals given by the officials’ bare eyesight all over the world in all standards of football. If that goal hadn’t been given for Bridgend St over Splott Park in my day a few of my playing colleagues may just be emerging from Knox Road now.
Re: Premier League football back today
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Originally Posted by
splott parker
Of course technology helps but the few mistakes that you’ve mention stand out a mile because of the rarity of them whereas in the history of football (pre VAR etc) there’s been thousands of similar goals given by the officials’ bare eyesight all over the world in all standards of football. If that goal hadn’t been given for Bridgend St over Splott Park in my day a few of my playing colleagues may just be emerging from Knox Road now.
I was just giving 2 examples of times when human errors were so bad that they were laughable. There are a lot more than that but those were the first two that sprang to mind. Referees and linesmen make mistakes in every game and giving goals that have gone 'over the line' are some of the hardest to judge with the naked eye.
Do you remember the Man City v Liverpool game last season where it looked like the ball had gone over the line from every angle, but because of Hawkeye, it was judged to have been about 2mm away from crossing it completely. That could have cost Man City the title had it been down to the officals making the call .
Now they have discovered a fault in their system, hopefully they can rectify it as it's been the best addition to the game in the last decade.
I'm not keen on how VAR is being used though. It has potential, but the way the offside laws have changed in order for VAR to be implemented is ridiculous.
Re: Premier League football back today
I believe the biggest problem is when it overrules a call already made. The referee should have it as a tool to use if he is in doubt or his linesman is, where he can call for a review.
If he is happy and firm and immediate in his decision it should stand.
Re: Premier League football back today
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
I believe the biggest problem is when it overrules a call already made. The referee should have it as a tool to use if he is in doubt or his linesman is, where he can call for a review.
If he is happy and firm and immediate in his decision it should stand.
It’s sad and farcical that the referee is relying on a watch buzzing rather than carrying out what’s been the ref’s job for years and years. The technology should be a help in a contentious or doubtful situation, Sheffield United’s ‘goal’ last night was neither and should have been confirmed by either of the match officials, it was bread and butter to an experienced ref.
Re: Premier League football back today
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Originally Posted by
splott parker
It’s sad and farcical that the referee is relying on a watch buzzing rather than carrying out what’s been the ref’s job for years and years. The technology should be a help in a contentious or doubtful situation, Sheffield United’s ‘goal’ last night was neither and should have been confirmed by either of the match officials, it was bread and butter to an experienced ref.
Exactly my point. If you look at 'egg', if there is a forward pass in a move to a try and the ref does not ask for a TV examination it doesn't happen, however much people watching on TV may bay for it. That is the way it should be. It should be to assist the official not to overrule him.