Season tickets out Wednesday

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

What a difference in attitude from those on this pissing their pants on this forum compared to a load of Merthyr supporters who I know who are bending over backwards for their football club in this time of need.

They havent stopped putting their hand in their pocket to keep their club alive. Running different events several times a week (Quizes, sponsored walks, soccalot.etc) which all mean them giving money every time. Theyve even started putting their own money into a fund to help the club actually sign players because they havent got enough players to start a season. Theyve each donated well over what its costing for a Cardiff City season ticket and wont get noting in return and thats without them buying their own season ticket, which isnt a million miles away in cost of a Championship season ticket even though they play in the 7th tier.

They wont be expecting multi million pound signings either they just want to be able to watch their football club again, win, lose or draw.

The selfishness and me, me, me attitude on here is quite frankly astounding.

Ironically, this year will be the first year for a few years ill be getting one. Back on my feet financially and now the club need their supporters in their hour of need. If we can only watch via a stream it works out about £12-15 a game. So be it.

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Solicitors be ****ed!! The club are not holding a gun to your head, you dont have to renew.

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If they want £50 to survive, I’d be the first in the queue. It’s the underhand way they’ve gone about it that gnaws

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

If they want £50 to survive, I’d be the first in the queue. It’s the underhand way they’ve gone about it that gnaws

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Thing is, that Mr Tan has got more money in the bank than all of us combined!

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Originally Posted by bobh

Thing is, that Mr Tan has got more money in the bank than all of us combined!

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20,000 with an average [that's AVERAGE] wealth of £10k. That's £200 million. What's Tan worth ?? [not his businesses]

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

If they want £50 to survive, I’d be the first in the queue. It’s the underhand way they’ve gone about it that gnaws

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How are they going to survive? The wage bill isn't going anywhere. If 15k people pay an average of £300, that's £4.5m. We aren't collecting that in a whip round.

Will renew tonight if we fail to make play-offs. If not then I'm going to wait to see if we get into the Prem. It appears we might not get either our seats or the ability to view matches online if that happens. Then it would be a complete waste of money.

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

How are they going to survive? The wage bill isn't going anywhere. If 15k people pay an average of £300, that's £4.5m. We aren't collecting that in a whip round.

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We spunked about that much on Aden Flint, we had £42m in parachute payments this season, the club aren't in an hour of need ffs

Trying to renew, i'm logged in, selected seat, go to checkout and nothing except the countdown clock and an option to 'Fill Data' which it won't let you click on?
HELP!

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Originally Posted by delmbox

has anybody successfully renewed their season ticket and applied the credit from this year/city cash?

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Yes

I just renewed. Got moved from Level 5 to Level 4 Ninian last year. Tried to renew my seat this morning as they stated in the Q+A that this would happen at the same rate but system said no. Winged an e-mail to the club. Tried this afternoon and it was no longer blocked. With a Senior rate and applying the credit from last season came to just under £170. At those prices it is good value for me even if we only physically get half a season.

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Originally Posted by City123

We spunked about that much on Aden Flint, we had £42m in parachute payments this season, the club aren't in an hour of need ffs

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They made 10m profit on transfers this season. Dalman has regularly spoken about the need to cut the budget this summer.

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

What a difference in attitude from those on this pissing their pants on this forum compared to a load of Merthyr supporters who I know who are bending over backwards for their football club in this time of need.

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Cardiff and Merthyr, the football clubs are almost identical, aren't they? Cardiff - billionaire owner; Merthyr - billionaire owner. Cardiff - players being paid tens of thousands of pounds every week; Merthyr - players being paid tens of thousands of pounds every week. Cardiff - Premier League parachute payments; Merthyr - Premier League parachute payments. Cardiff - Sky TV money; Merthyr - Sky TV money.

Hang on a minute.....

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Originally Posted by dml1954

So, at a time when the club needs its supporters the most, what do some people do - complain and say they are not going to renew. Some of us should take a lesson from the Wigan fans, who obviously really care about their club. Well go on then, don't renew but don’t come moaning on here when your seats gone and you cant get in when gates are reopened, whether its watching City in the Premier League or Championship. And don’t be surprised or complain if the club has no players or goes bust in the meantime, which it could well do in the current climate with no match day income for the last five months. Luckily not all people think like this and I will be there on Wednesday when they are released to renew, as I would believe most normal fans would be too.

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I recall a time not so long ago when Mr Tan told the supporters of this business that if they had a problem with the day to day runnings of the club they were no longer required to attend, are you implying that we are, in fact, now desperately needed in order for the club to survive...

...who would've thought huh!?

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Originally Posted by splott parker

Full capacity down the Liberty, every bugger’s related.

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

I’m getting solicitor’s advice on this.

Plus, I got 4 tickets in one household

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Why are you getting solicitors advice.?

Have you bought one earlier and the terms not the same or not advertised.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Cardiff and Merthyr, the football clubs are almost identical, aren't they? Cardiff - billionaire owner; Merthyr - billionaire owner. Cardiff - players being paid tens of thousands of pounds every week; Merthyr - players being paid tens of thousands of pounds every week. Cardiff - Premier League parachute payments; Merthyr - Premier League parachute payments. Cardiff - Sky TV money; Merthyr - Sky TV money.

Hang on a minute.....

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All relative. Cardiff’s outgoings are far higher than Merthyrs.

The moneys being quibbled over on here Merthyr fans haven’t batted any eyelid in giving to support their club.

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Originally Posted by Splott-light...

I recall a time not so long ago when Mr Tan told the supporters of this business that if they had a problem with the day to day runnings of the club they were no longer required to attend, are you implying that we are, in fact, now desperately needed in order for the club to survive...

...who would've thought huh!?

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I also recall a time when supporters marched and made it clear he was merely the custodian. It’s a shame those same supporters aren’t so forthcoming to support the club when it needs it most.

Hang fire everyone, things might be changing :thumbup::thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

They made 10m profit on transfers this season. Dalman has regularly spoken about the need to cut the budget this summer.

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How did we make 10m profit on transfers??

We sold Zohore and Manga but spent much more than that bringing Flint, Glatzel.etc to the club?

Away from the ins and outs of whether you're going to buy one or not, does anyone know if the online ticket office is open after hours (ie. after 5pm)? I've logged in, but there's nothing there....

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

All relative. Cardiff’s outgoings are far higher than Merthyrs.

The moneys being quibbled over on here Merthyr fans haven’t batted any eyelid in giving to support their club.

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Hang on, I, and plenty of others I'd imagine, have donated the cost of five games on our 19/20 season tickets to City's Academy in the last couple of months - I don't think the line you've chosen to be controversial with works there does it?

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

How did we make 10m profit on transfers??

We sold Zohore and Manga but spent much more than that bringing Flint, Glatzel.etc to the club?

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£10 million for Decordova-Reid as well.

Isn't it the case that we 2019/2020 season ticket holders were offered a proportionate credit on a 2020/2021 season ticket and were granted internet access free of charge for both home and away games that were behind closed doors? If so, we have had something for free - which we can set against the disappointment of not being able to attend home games that may have to be played behind closed doors, a situation that the club is not responsible for. As someone who detested the rebrand I am prepared to put up with such a situation if it helps the cash-strapped club a wee bit.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

£10 million for Decordova-Reid as well.

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Merely covered the 10 million we paid for him

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Hang on, I, and plenty of others I'd imagine, have donated the cost of five games on our 19/20 season tickets to City's Academy in the last couple of months - I don't think the line you've chosen to be controversial with works there does it?

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Peanuts

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Peanuts

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As I said, choosing to be controversial.

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

Isn't it the case that we 2019/2020 season ticket holders were offered a proportionate credit on a 2020/2021 season ticket and were granted internet access free of charge for both home and away games that were behind closed doors? If so, we have had something for free - which we can set against the disappointment of not being able to attend home games that may have to be played behind closed doors, a situation that the club is not responsible for. As someone who detested the rebrand I am prepared to put up with such a situation if it helps the cash-strapped club a wee bit.

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Its not about helping a cash starved club a wee-bit. It's about our club selling season tickets as if the 19,000 who bought last year will be able to renew reserving the same seats.

Let's face facts, 45,000 people have died from this bloody disease and all the press says that if football supporters are allowed back it will be in a Covid- secure way....that is likely to mean masks, no standing and at least a metre ( in Wales in could be 2 metres) between fans

A stadium seat is about 0.5metres, so min 1 person per 3 seats, or in Wales 6 seats. Then space needs to be made between rows. so perhaps every other row empty. And no siting with your mates unless from the same household

Maximum capacity in these circumstances maybe 10,000 and that's not allowing for the share away supporters will take.

So the Club is selling season tickets knowing that it will very probably not have the stadium capacity to cope. Illegal??

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

I also recall a time when supporters marched and made it clear he was merely the custodian. It’s a shame those same supporters aren’t so forthcoming to support the club when it needs it most.

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it's a business, remember? I have no obligation to hand over my money to any business if i'm not happy with the product, the packaging or the terms and conditions of sale, it's been a long time since i've felt any moral or spiritual obligation to hand the club fistfuls of my money

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

Hang fire everyone, things might be changing :thumbup::thumbup:

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You're the one that needs to hang fire, you're the only one who's threatening litigation, everybody else is pretty calm

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Originally Posted by lisvaneblue

Its not about helping a cash starved club a wee-bit. It's about our club selling season tickets as if the 19,000 who bought last year will be able to renew reserving the same seats.

Let's face facts, 45,000 people have died from this bloody disease and all the press says that if football supporters are allowed back it will be in a Covid- secure way....that is likely to mean masks, no standing and at least a metre ( in Wales in could be 2 metres) between fans

A stadium seat is about 0.5metres, so min 1 person per 3 seats, or in Wales 6 seats. Then space needs to be made between rows. so perhaps every other row empty. And no siting with your mates unless from the same household

Maximum capacity in these circumstances maybe 10,000 and that's not allowing for the share away supporters will take.

So the Club is selling season tickets knowing that it will very probably not have the stadium capacity to cope. Illegal??

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I don't think there's a chance that away supporters will be allowed in under those circumstances

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

As I said, choosing to be controversial.

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Why? Because I dare to have a different opinion to you?

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Originally Posted by delmbox

You're the one that needs to hang fire, you're the only one who's threatening litigation, everybody else is pretty calm

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No threats here, just seeking advice, before approaching the club

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

No threats here, just seeking advice, before approaching the club

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I don't know under what grounds there is to complain Tony, the club appears to have laid out their plans openly and honestly, it's up to the supporters to decide whether they accept the clubs conditions

Cant see away fans being part of any attendance next season.
Travel by coach wont be feasible and I cant see how any club can exclude home season ticket holders to accommodate some away fans.

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Originally Posted by Splott-light...

I don't know under what grounds there is to complain Tony, the club appears to have laid out their plans openly and honestly, it's up to the supporters to decide whether they accept the clubs conditions

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I think this is the only sensible thing you've ever said :hehe:

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Originally Posted by Splott-light...

I don't know under what grounds there is to complain Tony, the club appears to have laid out their plans openly and honestly, it's up to the supporters to decide whether they accept the clubs conditions

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I appreciate everyone’s opinion Pete, all I’m saying is for fans who have families going down, it is grossly unfair. As an individual, OAP, it doesn’t hit me, but a family would suffer.

Nice to hear from you, I hope all the family are well.

I think that elderly lady you accosted , enjoyed your company :hehe::hehe:

If you are a current season ticket holder do you get the streaming voucher regardless of which option you took? Ie donate to academy or have a discount on next seasons tickets?

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Originally Posted by BLUETIT

I appreciate everyone’s opinion Pete, all I’m saying is for fans who have families going down, it is grossly unfair. As an individual, OAP, it doesn’t hit me, but a family would suffer.

Nice to hear from you, I hope all the family are well.

I think that elderly lady you accosted , enjoyed your company :hehe::hehe:

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I totally agree, the club has scored an own goal with this decision and it will affect their pockets, but legally I dont think anyone has a leg to stand on in any confrontation.

I'm good Mr J, hope you and the family are safe and well too, looking to do an away at some point too, when this plague is over.

that was the Pompey trip if I recall, God I miss her :hehe:

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

If you are a current season ticket holder do you get the streaming voucher regardless of which option you took? Ie donate to academy or have a discount on next seasons tickets?

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4 season tickets, one stream

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Originally Posted by Splott-light...

I totally agree, the club has scored an own goal with this decision and it will affect their pockets, but legally I dont think anyone has a leg to stand on in any confrontation.

I'm good Mr J, hope you and the family are safe and well too, looking to do an away at some point too, when this plague is over.

that was the Pompey trip if I recall, God I miss her :hehe:

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[COLOR="#FF0000"]I am hopeful it will be reversed, or a better deal offered[/COLOR. Watch this space]

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Originally Posted by delmbox

I think this is the only sensible thing you've ever said :hehe:

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i've turned a corner Delm, i'm a changed man and i'm here should anybody need some sound advice.

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Originally Posted by Splott-light...

i've turned a corner Delm, i'm a changed man and i'm here should anybody need some sound advice.

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