My eyes....my eyes.....he’s already beaten it in day 4 has he? When most know it’s days 8 to 11 it hits hard?Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Morris
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My eyes....my eyes.....he’s already beaten it in day 4 has he? When most know it’s days 8 to 11 it hits hard?Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Morris
Imagine if he dies next week after all this showboating.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
In the first debate with Biden Trump's family waved away the person reminding the audience to wear a mask which itself followed weeks and weeks (months and months?) of Donald telling reporters and supporters to take off their masks.
Trump gets covid and suddenly pictures of him and his family wearing masks. Will any of his supporters ask about this?
She is a naughty oneQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
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Originally Posted by Llandaff Blue
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I will be leaving the great Walter Reed Medical Center today at 6:30 P.M. Feeling really good! Don’t be afraid of Covid. Don’t let it dominate your life. We have developed, under the Trump Administration, some really great drugs & knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago!</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313186529058136070?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 5, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Still pumped full of steroids and talking shite?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
https://twitter.com/brenonade/status...56208363552769
This man is going to be dead in the next few weeks, I am absolutely sure of it.
Be better for the USA if he does pop his mortal coil. His lack of empathy and narcissism is only going to contribute to more deaths.Quote:
Originally Posted by Llandaff Blue
I’m not exactly impartial with this mind as I got him as a deadpool choice.
I was prepared to believe that Trump did have Covid and still think he has it, but the timelines indicated by the "official" view from the President's camp look very suspicious. This article;-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-54413879
asks relevant questions, with the reluctance of the Trump camp to say when he last tested negative making me believe that it's entirely possible that there was a positive test before Thursday night/Friday morning and the feeling first of all was that things could stay as normal for the President unless his symptoms got worse - especially given the personality of the individual involved.
A big difference between Trump and "ordinary mortals" is that he will have been tested for the virus on a very regular basis and so it seems virtually impossible that the test which led to the announcement that he had Covid just four days ago would have been his first one that week.
People who know better than me will be able to answer the question do patients normally have to be given oxygen within two or three days of learning that they had the virus, but my feeling is that they don't unless they have had the virus for a while before having it confirmed..
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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
There is absolutely no question that Trump had covid earlier than the announced positive test. If he is being tested every day, then he will have had a previous positive test. If he's not tested every day, and they are simply testing everyone who is in contact with him (as testing is unpleasant) then they have lied.
It is not possible that he could first be positive on Thursday evening and then be transferred to a hospital 24 hours later - when he is already living in a building that contains first class medical facilities!
People don't become so ill that quickly with covid. That's why it's so infectious, because people are fine for a while after catching it.
What are we suggesting here, that the fluorescent apricot coloured, narcissistic fuuckwit didn’t adhere to any protocols or guidelines to pursue his own agenda and needs and thoughtlessly put others in danger because he’s a self centred colossal cuunt?Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
Whilst others will celebrate and suggest it’s a clever election strategy and he’s bucking the system. *strokes chin*
There was a doctor on BBc this morning who said just watching the way he is standing, he is struggling to breathe. I hope she is right and I hope it gets more difficult.
Whilst maybe not using quite the same language as the above, I have to agree with these basic sentiments. I'm not sure all this fighting talk from Trump about beating the virus will go down well with the 200,000 families who have lost loved ones due to COVID. People who did not have access to the same healthcare provision as the president.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordi Culé
He's definitely not 100% better but I don't think he'd be making the big pronouncements about beating it that he's been making if they weren't pretty sure he was on the mend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Llandaff Blue
Saying that he is an absolute headcase so you can't take anything for granted
That's exactly what he'd be doing :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by delmbox
A few days ago he was on a cocktail of experimental drugs. A fat 74 year old doesn't beat it that quick. But his persona relies on him being a superman. That's why he always uses the word 'strong' and talks about his good genes.
He won't allow anything that makes him look weak, even though all but his biggest enemies would sympathise with him saying 'look, I'm feeling pretty bad from this'. Instead he says he feels the best he has in 20 years. It's totally implausible.
White House Gift Shop selling 'Trump Defeats COVID' commemorative coin. I bloody kid you not. The world is going to hell in a handbasket
that could be a colletor's edition if he suddenly takes a turn for the worseQuote:
Originally Posted by ninian opinian
His whole narrative is now "I put myself in danger because that's what leaders do, I suffered for it but I beat it and I will lead you out of the darkness"Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
I honestly struggle to think of a bigger bellend
FAKE NEWS
Trump was able to access healthcare unattainable for many in America and most around the world, not to mention him wanting to make it more difficult for many in America to access healthcare, and is now pushing others to take greater risks in order to help him win an election.
What do you call that? It's not a leader.
Did he manage to persuade the Chinese to give him the vaccine they’ve got already maybe?:sherlock:Quote:
Originally Posted by surge
That's not how vaccines workQuote:
Originally Posted by goats
Taking the politics out of it, does this mean there is another way to deal with Covid19? We have been told a vaccine is the only solution, and we must remain in lockdown until it is ready. So if they ramp up the production of these new experimental drugs can life get back to normal sooner, without being dependent on a working vaccine?Quote:
Originally Posted by surge
He's a superhero, i've seen the film, he now has immunity, and it's nothing to be scared of!Quote:
Originally Posted by surge
Not sure that is remotely true. As far as I can see most people fit into one of four groups:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
i) not had coronavirus and won't ever get it
ii) had coronavirus and had short term mild symptoms or were asymptomatic. Unknown how long they are immune for.
iii) had coronavirus and had very difficult time of it but survived with no longer term effects or had coronavirus and have what is now being described as "long covid" where fatigue or other symptoms last 90 days plus.
iv) had coronavirus and died
This is a novel virus so initially, and now during the first winter, a lot of the concern is that we know it's potentially deadly and spreads rapidly but we don't know much else. Each passing month we are closer to living with it in relative safety because we understand it more and make different breakthroughs which are trialed to high enough standards that they are then mass produced.
Life will largely return to normal before a vaccine is available to everyone in the UK. The lockdown (from China to Sweden) was never about guaranteed safety but the risk was too high with too many unknowns and no way of protecting those who would have smallest chance of survival.
Exactly. The monoclonal antibody injection he received came from stock that was strictly reserved for those patients who are part of an on-going clinical trial. There is no way an ordinary mortal like you or I would have a sniff of a chance of being treated with it unless we were enrolled in the trial!Quote:
Originally Posted by surge
Maybe if everyone exposed to Covid 19 got the quality of medical attention enjoyed by Trump there may be a way of 'life getting back to normal sooner'. Or do you think extreme health inequality is part of 'normal'?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Then again, the more information that comes out about the experimental drugs taken by Trump (along with zinc, vitamin D and aspirin) the more the case is made for keeping the jury out for a while longer. There is still a lot unknown about the effectiveness and side effects of the anti-viral remdesivir (clinical trials still ongoing); but the steroid dexamethasone is especially interesting. Side effects range from 'aggression, mood swings, depression and nervousness to trouble with thinking, speaking and walking' (US Mayo Clinic). How will we ever know....?
Basically there are either preventative or curative options out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by surge
The preventative options seem to fall into three categories:
1) A vaccine;
2) The fabled herd immunity through a sizeable majority of the population mixing and building up the collective immunity to eliminate the virus (once the weakest in the herd take the consequences)
3) The various lockdown measures (masks, social distancing etc that we have been familiar with over the last 6 months)
The curative ones seem to be the plethora of drugs with different levels of maturity and medical provenance that treat people at various stages of infectivity. Trump seems to have been given a cocktail of these though he previously said that his personal physician administered a programme of hydroxochloroquine as some kind of preventative treatment).
The post you responded to talking about taking the politics out of this (yeah right) seems to be mashing the two elements together and suggesting that because Trump doing balcony and drive-by tours having been administered this cocktail (after supplemental oxygen) that the Western world will somehow rip off their masks and mingle in the shops, bars and streets because they think that they can get access to the same level of treatment that Trump did.
We already know that one of those drugs is being rationed by the NHS because of lack of supply, patent and prioritisation for the US.
https://twitter.com/JKCorden/status/...090251778?s=19
he gets a lot of stick on here, but fair play that was impressive
I didn't know he could sing that wellQuote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
It's better than most of his comedy.Quote:
Originally Posted by delmbox
The American people will get the president they deserve. Typically voter turn-out for presidential elections is 50% or less in most states so that means anti-Trump folk need to get off their backsides and vote Democrat otherwise they can look forward to another four years of desperate Don.
"They say keeping the lockdown policies in place until a vaccine is available would cause irreparable damage, with the underprivileged disproportionately harmed".Quote:
Originally Posted by surge
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54442386
"We have been told a vaccine is the only solution, and we must remain in lockdown until it is ready."Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
"Not sure that is remotely true."
...here are some people who are concerned about impact of keeping lockdown saying this shouldn't be cover-all policy.
Can you show me who is saying we should keep lockdown until a vaccine?
I'm sure the mental health Imapct after Covid , will very damagingQuote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
When were you last tsetde?Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars
Just before your spelling test , your dismal of mental health speaks volumes .Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
please get on this folks https://www.spring.org.uk/2020/10/vi...t-covid-19.php
Be fair Cyril whooshed you a beauty there:hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by life on mars