Jeez. That was dire and as poor as I have seen from a Wales team in a long time. No urgency. No quality with the final ball.
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Jeez. That was dire and as poor as I have seen from a Wales team in a long time. No urgency. No quality with the final ball.
That was shit.
Maybe we score these late goals by boring the opposition into submission.
The Editor will have their work cut out to create a highlights programme for BBC Wales tonight
Kieffer Moore should go home if they are not going to bother passing to him.
A point on the road after two wins is still a decent return but FFS try and score and give the fans back home something to cheer.
20 seconds to go the ball should be hammered to Moore in the box but we pass pass pass to the final whistle.
Abysmal performance as far as I'm concerned, ROI are an awful team that couldn't even fill a bench and we played like we wanted a 0-0, no urgency and the Morrell and Smith combo aren't good enough to play the way Giggs is trying, passing accuracy is too poor.
That annoyed me. Against ten men we should have been pumping the ball forward. Disappointing because we need wins re world rankings with the World Cup draw next month.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Morris
Totally agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Gillis
yep....agree 100%Quote:
Originally Posted by Wozza16
That's because they had 100 cameras at Wembley, and only 1 in Dublin :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
That was a waste of nearly 2 hours.
We're pretty much nailed on Pot 2 I think, the England game scuppered any chance of Pot 1Quote:
Originally Posted by Pearcey3
Unfortunately so.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
I have a feeling Giggs is trying to fast track Levitt for his passing ability, but it could take a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wozza16
Agreed, he’s definitely not close to being ready at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Thank goodness I missed the first 35 minutes for MotoGP. Why play Dan James if we're not going to put the ball in front of him. One dimensional.
It was a poor decision. Jonny Williams should have come on ahead of Levitt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Giggs certainly seems to have his favourites who get brought on regardless of the impact it has on shape, Levitt and N.Williams are two of those. Surely it would have made more sense to bring on N.Williams for C.Roberts and Brooks for Wilson? Have a more attacking full back to overlap Brooks who can cut in onto his favoured left foot? Jonny in the middle to provide some much needed impetus
I don’t understand the tactics when McClean went off
Pathetic waste of time.
Still a point but Christ what a boring boring game
I think playing Roberts & Williams togther on the right might be another Giggs project. I'm not sure if Brooks is fully fit, otherwise he would have started ahead of Wilson. My impression is he has one eye on the Euros, and he is using these games to develop the team.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
Brooks is one of the most exciting players in our squad, playing a right back ahead of him is sheer lunacyQuote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
I'm not sure if he is completely over his injury, as he hasn't had a solid run of games since he's been back. If he was fit he would have started, and he wasn't even on the bench for the last game. Let's see what happens against Bulgaria and if he starts or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
Giggs is going through what Tosack had to, that is playing inexperienced youngsters.
Giggs isn't my favorite person, but give him a bit of leeway people !!!!!!
Williams is actually a winger, and Liverpool are doing that Trent Alexander-Arnold thing with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
Well I’m not going to pull you up:hehe::hehe::hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUETIT
Agreed that there is much more urgency in midfield when Jonny Williams plays. I saw the game on my phone so difficult to analyse but scoring goals against any team is going to be a problem playing like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
Hopefully it is only the familiarity of playing against the same old Irish team that prevents us from playing a more expansive game. They know how to nullify us and by and large the opposite is true.
It was noticeable however how statuesque some of our players were at times. Little or no effort was made to shake off their markers to find space, so we became more predictable as the game wore on.
Having said that, a fully fit Bale, Ramsey and Allen would obviously make a massive difference and give the opposition a lot more to think about.
I'd like to see Brooks playing as a 10, with Ramsey and Allen behind, and Bale on the right.
Why? Ramsey is less effective when he plays in a deeper role and he's a better attacking midfielder than Brooks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
I'd try this team out..
Hennessy
Mepham - Ampadu - Rodon
Williams - Allan - Ramsey - Davies
Bale - HRK - Brooks
It doesn't help that we were told the England game didn't matter as it was all about the Nation's League....
The Nation's League has been used by Giggs as an opportunity to build up young players cap count and this game was successful again in doing that but, Ireland at home aside, has rarely produced exciting fixtures for us. It's very difficult to know how to judge Giggs really as we know Wales are at least 10x the side in front of a home crowd, and we did qualify for the Euros, but I would also say only three or four games have been a complete or near complete performance.
I would leave it on two points:
i) Giggs appears to have taken a lot of influence from Van Gaal and the more you learn about his system the easier it is to understand what we're trying to do.
ii) Giggs will ultimately be judged based on our performance at the Euros and whether we qualify for the World Cup. If we do well and qualify then he's used the Nation's league to perfection, even if it's been dull at times, but if we don't then we'll be left wondering why we've missed our targets and shown more frustrating performances than exciting ones.
is this for Wednesday? because Hal's got a broken armQuote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Sometime before Euro 21 when they are all fit.Quote:
Originally Posted by delmbox
Might be interesting in a friendly. Allan has 9 caps for Brazil though so he's ineligible for usQuote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Maybe if he changed his name to Allen nobody would notice :sherlock:Quote:
Originally Posted by delmbox
Thatcher's cider :hehe::hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
Although he plays well for Wales,Jonny can’t get into the Division 1 Charlton team? and Vaulks is behind three reserve players in Murrell,Smith and Levitt!Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
I don’t think Brooks is fit that’s why he was on the bench,Ramsey was disappointing today?
I thought Ramsey did ok, tried to make something happenQuote:
Originally Posted by Ianto13
The James - Morrell - Smith - Wilson thing didn't work, and Moore didn't get any service, hence I suggested a new formation to play to our strengths (actually a 3-4-2-1).Quote:
Originally Posted by delmbox
Finland 2 Bulgaria 0 - swings and roundabouts really, Finland are close to us and could well be above us by Wednesday, but on the other hand, Bulgaria were comfortably beaten at home by Hungary in midweek and now this defeat, I think that's one win in eighteen now for them.
To be fair to Morrell, I'd say that's the first poorish game he's played in a Wales shirt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wozza16
Jonny has proven his quality for us over the years and just last month showed the urgency required to help break down a team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ianto13