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16-10-20, 05:44
Rock_Flock_of_Five

Re: Harry Wilson

Quote:

Originally Posted by AfricanBluebird

News outlets reporting that we are paying over 3 million loan fee.

I can't see that at all.

I would baulk at £1million loan fee.

Swansea are in for Palmer at Bristol, who is no Wilson, but would certainly be a good signing and significantly better value than Wilson if he costs us £3 million loan fee.

I don't think our supporters have the appetite for yet another Bristol City signing, regardless of their quality.
16-10-20, 05:51
sneggyblubird

Re: Harry Wilson

That figure may reflect the loan and his salary.
16-10-20, 06:01
ccfcwelshlad

Re: Harry Wilson

Quote:

Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanton

where’s ccfcwelshlad when you need him?

:wave:
16-10-20, 06:02
AfricanBluebird

Re: Harry Wilson

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five

I don't think our supporters have the appetite for yet another Bristol City signing, regardless of their quality.

Haha. That's true.
16-10-20, 06:33
Whisperer

Re: Harry Wilson

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ng-3m-fee.html
Cmon Bluebirds- make my day.
16-10-20, 06:37
the other bob wilson

Re: Harry Wilson

I thought Wilson was pretty poor in the last two Wales matches. I say that not because I don't want him here (I think he is, at least, a good Championship level player), but more from the point of view that some of our fans' very high expectations of him may not be met.

Also, if it is true that there is a loan fee pf £3 million to be paid for the player, wouldn't that be more than we would probably have to pay to sign Woodrow permanently?

With Wilson, the only way I can see him signing for us permanently is if we were to go up this season and there has been little so far to suggest that is going to happen. With Woodrow there would be the possibility that we could sell him at a profit if he played to his potential for us.

Of course, the possibility that we have Woodrow and Wilson on our books by this time tomorrow cannot be discounted, but I would have thought there would have to be one or maybe two significant departures from the first team squad today for that to happen.
16-10-20, 06:41
the other bob wilson

Re: Harry Wilson

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowbridge Blue

I don't want to disable my Adblocker (even for a short time) so can't copy a link but from what I can see of the Mail Online at 5.00am UK time seems to be indicating that 'Harry Wilson set for Cardiff season-long loan'. It certainly does indicate the deal is near 3million and that the player is in talks with Cardiff.

I'm like you when it comes to disabling ad blocker, so I've not read the story either, but the Mail is one of the most reliable papers out there when it comes to football transfer stories.
16-10-20, 07:11
the other bob wilson

Re: Harry Wilson

Dunno how reliable this site is, but it's saying Wilson is in Cardiff for a medical.

https://www.footballinsider247.com/h...cal-liverpool/
16-10-20, 07:15
Pedro de la Rosa

Re: Harry Wilson

Quote:

Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Dunno how reliable this site is, but it's saying Wilson is in Cardiff for a medical.

https://www.footballinsider247.com/h...cal-liverpool/

https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/statu...919415296?s=21

Paul Joyce saying it’s done, so it’s done.
16-10-20, 07:34
Punxsutawney Phil

Re: Harry Wilson

Quote:

Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

I thought Wilson was pretty poor in the last two Wales matches. I say that not because I don't want him here (I think he is, at least, a good Championship level player), but more from the point of view that some of our fans' very high expectations of him may not be met.

Also, if it is true that there is a loan fee pf £3 million to be paid for the player, wouldn't that be more than we would probably have to pay to sign Woodrow permanently?

With Wilson, the only way I can see him signing for us permanently is if we were to go up this season and there has been little so far to suggest that is going to happen. With Woodrow there would be the possibility that we could sell him at a profit if he played to his potential for us.

Of course, the possibility that we have Woodrow and Wilson on our books by this time tomorrow cannot be discounted, but I would have thought there would have to be one or maybe two significant departures from the first team squad today for that to happen.

I'm hoping that his last few Wales performances have been down to a lack of game time so far this season rather than a lack of quality. When he's had regular games under his bet at this level he's been quality and the exact thing that we've been missing, I'm looking forward to this coming off.
16-10-20, 07:38
Hilts

Re: Harry Wilson

Id be pissed off if we pay any sort of loan fee to them. They can feck off.
16-10-20, 07:39
Rjk

Re: Harry Wilson

I wonder if it's a case of staying in the game until deadline day, at which point the fee might be different
16-10-20, 07:51
Zowhore

Re: Harry Wilson

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccfcwelshlad

:wave:

Is that a yes or a no ??
16-10-20, 08:09
surge

Re: Harry Wilson

It's going to take him a month or two to get up to speed but a very good player at championship level with still room to grow if we get an unlikely promotion.

We're told we're looking at two players and could still end up with no one. Trouble is, I think we're two players away from being as good as last year when, despite finishing fifth, we squeezed into the play-offs. Are the standards of last year good enough to get back into play-offs this year?
16-10-20, 08:33
Rjk

Re: Harry Wilson

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Originally Posted by surge

It's going to take him a month or two to get up to speed but a very good player at championship level with still room to grow if we get an unlikely promotion.

We're told we're looking at two players and could still end up with no one. Trouble is, I think we're two players away from being as good as last year when, despite finishing fifth, we squeezed into the play-offs. Are the standards of last year good enough to get back into play-offs this year?

I think we are a side that could finish anywhere between 5th and 22nd.
16-10-20, 08:37
Pedro de la Rosa

Re: Harry Wilson

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rjk

I wonder if it's a case of staying in the game until deadline day, at which point the fee might be different

James Pearce in the Athletic saying we've paid £1m and are covering his wages. I'm very excited though, he's a Premier League talent.
16-10-20, 08:45
Rjk

Re: Harry Wilson

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

James Pearce in the Athletic saying we've paid £1m and are covering his wages. I'm very excited though, he's a Premier League talent.

https://www.sportekz.com/football/li...yers-salaries/

This dubious link suggests he's on 60k - I can't imagine we'd be prepared to pay that much.
It's probably not correct though is it?
16-10-20, 08:51
Pearcey3

Re: Harry Wilson

Quote:

Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Dunno how reliable this site is, but it's saying Wilson is in Cardiff for a medical.

https://www.footballinsider247.com/h...cal-liverpool/

We are interested in him too but seeing the same as you. Cardiff medical. A very good loan signing and the loan fee is fair
16-10-20, 09:37
Hilts

Re: Harry Wilson

Sky Sports breaking news headline is Liverpool agree 1.2m loan move with Cardiff.
16-10-20, 09:53
Trigger

Re: Harry Wilson

I'm tired of worrying or thinking too much in terms of the clubs finances, do enough of that balancing at home. So as a supporter of Cardiff City I think that would be a terrific signing, just what we need.
16-10-20, 09:54
Pearcey3

Re: Harry Wilson

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hilts

Sky Sports breaking news headline is Liverpool agree 1.2m loan move with Cardiff.

You are apparently paying his wages too but it’s a fair deal for a top end Championship player.
16-10-20, 09:56
Croesy Blue

Re: Harry Wilson

One of the most exciting signings we've had in a while if it comes off.
16-10-20, 09:59
Hilts

Re: Harry Wilson

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pearcey3

You are apparently paying his wages too but it’s a fair deal for a top end Championship player.

Dont agree. Ridiculous paying that sort of loan fee.
16-10-20, 10:01
Rjk

Re: Harry Wilson

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hilts

Dont agree. Ridiculous paying that sort of loan fee.

imagine we'd signed him on a 3 year contract, for 3 times that loan fee, nobody would be complaining then?

the only thing we don't get is any resale value, but that doesn't seem to have been much of a consideration in many of our signings over the past 5 years
16-10-20, 10:02
Hilts

Re: Harry Wilson

Yeah around £4m permanent fair price. Id have been happy with that.
16-10-20, 10:03
Pearcey3

Re: Harry Wilson

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hilts

Dont agree. Ridiculous paying that sort of loan fee.

We paid £3 million for Vydra on loan for a season a few years ago. Liverpool value Wilson at £15 million plus having turned down a £12 million bid from Burnley. I think this is a very decent deal for Cardiff and would have felt that way if Reading had signed him. He is worth the loan fee.
16-10-20, 10:05
Pearcey3

Re: Harry Wilson

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hilts

Yeah around £4m permanent fair price. Id have been happy with that.

No chance. Top end Championship players go for a lot more than that. Just look at what West Ham are paying for Benarahma.
16-10-20, 10:08
Its been emotional

Re: Harry Wilson

Think he will be perfect playing off just behind big Kieffer Moore 👍
16-10-20, 10:12
StraightOuttaCanton

Re: Harry Wilson

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zowhore

Is that a yes or a no ??

I’m taking it as he’s not quite as connected as he once was, which’d be a shame
16-10-20, 10:15
Former Labour leader

Re: Harry Wilson

Done deal
16-10-20, 10:15
lennybluebird

Wilson signing.....

Should keep us away from the relegation trap door...🤗🤗
16-10-20, 10:20
Carl Dale's Mole

Re: Wilson signing.....

Hell of a statement by the club. So happy with this.
16-10-20, 10:28
binman

Re: Wilson signing.....

BLOODY HELL.....
16-10-20, 10:29
Scottishbluebird27

Re: Wilson signing.....

Buzzing with this - great signing , finally some ambition from the board. Would love another attacker in
16-10-20, 10:33
Grangenders

Re: Wilson signing.....

I just can’t get exited until it’s confirmed. There are a lot of clubs on the drive from Liverpool to Cardiff
16-10-20, 10:33
The Bob Banker Spanker

Re: Wilson signing.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scottishbluebird27

Buzzing with this - great signing , finally some ambition from the board. Would love another attacker in

Woodrow :thumbup:
16-10-20, 10:35
Whisperer

Re: Wilson signing.....

Don't think we needed a 3rd thread to talk about Wilson signing.:wave:
16-10-20, 10:38
Its been emotional

Re: Wilson signing.....

Just been confirmed on BBC News 👌
16-10-20, 10:39
Ger27

Re: Harry Wilson

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hilts

Dont agree. Ridiculous paying that sort of loan fee.

It compares favourably to other deals in recent years.

Take Flint for example...

Signed for £4m in the summer of 2019 on a 3 year contract. £1m/year salary cost. So total cost £7m... £2.3m a year.

Total cost of Wilson deal £1.2m plus 7 months salary...£2.3m?!

One gives us a chance at promotion, the other doesn't.
16-10-20, 10:41
Pedro de la Rosa

Re: Harry Wilson

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hilts

Dont agree. Ridiculous paying that sort of loan fee.

He's worth at least 12m to Burnley, we've paid a 10th of that. We don't get any resale value but we get a terrific player and apparently we have first option to sign him if we go up. I mean, we won't go up but still. It is a tremendously exciting deal, he got 15 in 41 for Derby. Nice to have another welsh player, too.

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