They’ve effectively had that design since at least 2007Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
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They’ve effectively had that design since at least 2007Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
P6, W1, D1, L4Quote:
Originally Posted by WJ99mobile
0 goals
0 assists
289 minutes played total, so just over 3 games worth
His loan move to Stoke was completed todayQuote:
Originally Posted by PhyllisStant
This is a fair assessment of Matondo: https://welshfootballfans.com/eatsle...pk-frssf-9n5hl
He's running out of time to convince people but seems to be at a good club who want him to be there. At the end of the day, you either want the 20 year old Welsh player to be successful or you're not that invested.
Regarding Wilson, it seems a bit unrealistic for some to ask him to be a player of the year candidate having spent the past few months telling us how our our tactics are awful under a manager out of his depth. Wilson is too good for the Championship, a team like Burnley or Palace at lower end of premier league is probably his level, but it's a sign of how strong Liverpool are financially that they can request an unrealistic fee for a player.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/55595986Quote:
Originally Posted by delmbox
the lesson here is never have opinions on the internet
Marino leaves and schalke win their next game 4-0.
having not won since god knows when
He’s nearly 60 now so as good a quarter back that he was it’s no surprise :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
bloody auto correctQuote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
https://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com...e-city?page=15
Check out page 15 and 16 of the thread on tonight's game.
Stoke fans seem to have made their mind up.
We dodged a bullet.
Not very complimentary to him at all, and the other Welsh dig as well, ‘We have a strong bench, apart from Vokes’.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue lewj
A few comments.
He can't control it or get it out of his feet to run at anybody.
He is in the running to be Stoke's worst ever player.
They should be thankful he is only a loan signing.
All that after two games. It won't change either.
Nothing like a good bit of overreaction.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue lewj
I'm not a great fan of Vokes.Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
Loved his goal against the Belgians but he's not that good as his overall game and record suggests. The fact he is stuck on the bench for a Stoke team who struggle for goals says it all.
Wales players and City players seem to get built up as better than they are by some fans. It has gone on for quite some time.
Could well be an overreaction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
He would give Murphy a run for his money here for the least effort and consistently poor performer awards. To think some wanted him here.
He seems to have lost his way at Man City reserves and believed his own hype rather than knuckle down. You check any highlights on YouTube etc and the vast majority is from his Man City youth and reserve days.
You’re quite correct, we’ll always have a soft spot for him for obvious reasons but in reality he ‘filled a gap’ for Wales. Past his sell by date now I fear and annoying for Stokies that he’s obviously picking up a fair old wage, not unlike some ‘stars’ we’ve had over the years.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue lewj
No, not at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
Plenty have stolen a wage here over the years.
Are you watching Rotherham Stoke tonight? He's a loan signing and they've signed Berahino, Wimmer etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue lewj
Matondo is rapid, he's very young and he's never really had proper first team football. I like him, I think he's got something. I agree with you on Wales and City players being overrated but I think we'd be a good environment for him as he'd get time.
No I'm not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
I'm looking at the reaction of several fans who are.
Are you?
I trust message boards like this especially when the universal opinion is that he isn't very good.
:hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by blue lewj
I've looked on twitter, most think he's been quiet but they've been poor all over. I'm not the one writing him off after looking on a message board. Did you see their board after we beat them? It was the most negative thing I've ever seen.
I've seen a lot more of him than you have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
In the Bundesliga kids get chances. Matondo had a chance at Schalke. He was consistently poor and it looks like he will be here.
We'll go along with your Twitter review of he is havig a quiet game and all those that think he is rubbish are overreacting if you like. Doesn't make much difference to me if you can't or won't see what is in front of you.
That’s what I implied.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue lewj
1) You don't know how much of him I've seen. He's only had 1500 minutes in total, which is about 16/17 games.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue lewj
2) YOU'RE NOT WATCHING THE GAME
Stoke fans are though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
One has now suggested they take him off and play with 10.
After we beat them, most of their fans would have lynched half their squad and the manager so I'll take that with a pinch of salt. They're losing to Rotherham so presumably none of them are playing well.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue lewj
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Originally Posted by blue lewj
Alright, alright. They're overreacting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
Really bizarre to come on here and have a pop at a player's performance in a game you're not even watching and basing it all on one of the most negative messageboards I've ever seenQuote:
Originally Posted by blue lewj
Not as bizarre as wanting him here because he has pace believe me. I also had a check to see what they think of him given previous discussions on here. Nothing more than that really.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
We dodged a bullet and that will be proven no matter how many games he is given. Pedro is talking like him not getting game time is anybody but his own fault. If he was doing it regularly and good enough he would have featured for one of the worst Schalke teams in history.
That night we beat them was one of the best bit of internet reading I’ve ever experienced.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
Almost as bizarre as this:Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
What a wanker :hehe:Quote:
I've seen a lot more of him than you have
It was great fun. Just had a quick look myself. The magic happens from page 12 onwardsQuote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
https://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com...e-city-cardiff
Here comes Croesy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
Still calling me out for bollocks for saying Wilson was not undoubtedly one of the best players in the Championship and definitely a Premier League player? I can't say he's lighting up the division. I suppose he is for you? Who is talking bollocks again?
I'm a wanker now. You've got previous for swearing and name calling when you can't add any substance to your argument. It isn't surprising.
I watch a lot of Bundesliga. Most weeks in fact and quite like Schalke so watch a lot of their games. The fact Pedro wanted him here tells me he hasn't seen him play much at all. If he had he wouldn't have wanted him anywhere near a City team.
Croesy, that Wilson thread clearly smarts a bit as I've hardly ever quoted you or had much to do with you on here but you have popped up a few times since to have a dig on other threads.
Wilson is disappointing in a City shirt in the main. If he was undoubtedly a Premier League player then he would be playing there. Live with it. Let it go.
Just had a quick look on a stoke messageboard, and they were critical of Matondo, but not as extreme as has been suggested on here.
Certainly Ojo came in for a lot more flack on here during his first couple of games, and he's turned out OK.
Hopefully he can build some confidence and get a run of games.
I've never seen anything quite like itQuote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
The comments I put above were from the Stoke message board I linked to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
People are saying he could be their worst player, suggested they take him off and play with 10 and are thankful it is only a loan move.
I am thankful we didn't go for him.
As for the watching more of him than Pedro. It wasn't a boast, I just probably do. I don't miss many Schalke games unless it clashes with City and have been over a few times to see them. Pedro wanting him here suggests to me he hasn't seen him play all that much. Some think he has enough to come good, I don't think he does. I'll leave it at that.
I’ve seen a lot more of him than you have.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue lewj
Nice one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
Your error of judgment is all the more surprising then.
Just because he’s been disappointing for city doesn’t mean he’s a bad player.Quote:
Originally Posted by blue lewj
I stick by what I’ve said he’s a talented player and saying he’s nothing more than set pieces is one of the daftest things I’ve seen.
Me pointing out you sound bizarre in this thread is unrelated, you genuinely sound bizarre.
I said you take out his set pieces and he isn't as great as many make out. He hasn't really produced much by way of set piece magic here and has done very little outside of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
One of the best players in this league does more than he has in games. As I have said since I would prefer a fit Tomlin in the team than a fit Wilson.
I also believe Tomlin would be more likely to be closer to the best player in this league over the course of a season than Wilson would should they both stay fit.
You think I'm bizarre, I've always thought that you are. Each to their own.
I don’t think you’re bizarre mate, just that you’re sounding bizarre in this thread :thumbup: