It's time for Dalman and Choo to go

It's another knee jerk reaction from them (I think Mick's hands are somewhat tied) to sell everyone, cut costs anyway possible and use every youth player possible whether they're good enough or not.

Is it weathering the storm post COVID finances? Probably but it's a risky one if we ever did drop down

It's clear there's no long term planning and whilst we could look to Mick and the youth as now a long term planning, I'm not confident that it is anything other than another trial until they change course again

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Originally Posted by lisvaneblue

You say there were three investors initially. Two or more individuals pooling resources to invest qualifies as a consortium

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I think this pandemic has addled your brain. Either that or your Tory tendencies mean you can't admit you were wrong. These three individuals didn't pool their resources to invest in the club. They simply bought individual share blocks.

When you said "Tan didn't purchase the club on his own, he was part of a consortium of investors, and such people do not spend money on a whim," you were trying to paint a very different picture to what actually happened.

You believed there was a genuine consortium of investors as opposed to just Tan, his son and his mate, and a genuine strategy behind the takeover. Neither is true. There was no consortium, there was no strategy and there was no kind of business plan attached to the rebrand whatsoever. Tan's been making this up as he goes along from day one - something that should be blatantly obvious to everyone by now.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

I think this pandemic has addled your brain. Either that or your Tory tendencies mean you can't admit you were wrong. These three individuals didn't pool their resources to invest in the club. They simply bought individual share blocks.

When you said "Tan didn't purchase the club on his own, he was part of a consortium of investors, and such people do not spend money on a whim," you were trying to paint a very different picture to what actually happened.

You believed there was a genuine consortium of investors as opposed to just Tan, his son and his mate, and a genuine strategy behind the takeover. Neither is true. There was no consortium, there was no strategy and there was no kind of business plan attached to the rebrand whatsoever. Tan's been making this up as he goes along from day one - something that should be blatantly obvious to everyone by now.

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I think it's your brain that may be addled.
Tan, his son, and a mate each agreeing to buy shares in a co-ordinated way to acquire the club means that they were acting as a consortium.
And if you think that a successful businessman like Tan would just throw money at it without getting some of his numerous advisors to do a risk/ benefit analysis, that's equally naive.
As a businessman he saw a club on its knees. He saw the potential, and he took a business risk. It seemed to be going OK for him too until he tried the rebrand, which rebounded badly.
However he is still working to a plan and it's obvious to all but the myopic few that the club is focussed on cost reduction as the priority.

Maybe someone needs to ask the board just what Tan’s plan is…

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Originally Posted by lisvaneblue

I think it's your brain that may be addled. Tan, his son, and a mate each agreeing to buy shares in a co-ordinated way to acquire the club means that they were acting as a consortium.

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Oh yeah, that's exactly what you meant when you were talking about a consortium of Malaysian investors not spending money on a whim......

Incidentally, your 'consortium' didn't acquire the club. Tan merely acquired a 40% stake in it. His takeover came later.

No doubt some of his advisors did do a risk/benefit analysis. Seems they made a right balls-up of it too, as Vinnie's been pouring money down the drain ever since due the hopeless way in which the club has been run by him, his minions and his managers. He even managed to lose money while in the Premier League, which took some doing.

As for working to a 'plan', that 'plan' appears to have changed on numerous occasions during his tenure. Boom and bust. There never has been an overarching strategy of any kind. Anyone who genuinely believes there has been is an idiot.

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Originally Posted by The Hooded Claw

Maybe someone needs to ask the board just what Tan’s plan is…

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Maybe the board need to ask Tan what his plan is.

Maybe Tan should come out and something to the fans.

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Originally Posted by Bald Barry Bastad

Maybe Tan should come out and something to the fans.

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I didn't realize he's gay as well; that's the last straw!