Kyle Rittenhouse

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

Yes and it’s quite clear where you get your news. Oppose Antifa ffs :hehe:

Knows the in and outs of why Kyle Rittenhouse is innocent but knows “nothing” about the proud boys. Talk about the mask slipping.

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Is it now?
Where do I get my news?

Obviously from a far more objective place than you seemingly who had to be directed to a Washington Post article for some facts to stop you spouting site about the case.

BTW how was the trip to Deepdale?

For me it's the message it sends. That message is, if youre going to a protest that's likely to attract the attention of white supremacist militias, then go tooled up AF. The only way you're ever going to see gun control in America is when people that the authorities deem undesirable (hint: not fascists) start getting armed.

Dont forget how pro gun control the NRA was when the Black Panthers started practising open carry in the 1960's

https://www.history.com/news/black-p...rt-mulford-act

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Originally Posted by Cardiff Ultra

For me it's the message it sends. That message is, if youre going to a protest that's likely to attract the attention of white supremacist militias, then go tooled up AF. The only way you're ever going to see gun control in America is when people that the authorities deem undesirable (hint: not fascists) start getting armed.

Dont forget how pro gun control the NRA was when the Black Panthers started practising open carry in the 1960's

https://www.history.com/news/black-p...rt-mulford-act

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Exactly

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Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue

Is it now?
Where do I get my news?

Obviously from a far more objective place than you seemingly who had to be directed to a Washington Post article for some facts to stop you spouting site about the case.

BTW how was the trip to Deepdale?

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It was good thanks.

I don’t know where you get your news but it’s quite clear what type your consuming and where you lean especially pretending to not know who the proud boys are but jumping on the Washington post from which the most clear story of this whole thing as been posted in this thread.

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Originally Posted by Cardiff Ultra

For me it's the message it sends. That message is, if youre going to a protest that's likely to attract the attention of white supremacist militias, then go tooled up AF. The only way you're ever going to see gun control in America is when people that the authorities deem undesirable (hint: not fascists) start getting armed.

Dont forget how pro gun control the NRA was when the Black Panthers started practising open carry in the 1960's

https://www.history.com/news/black-p...rt-mulford-act

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Been lots of black panthers at numerous protests and the nfac group. Not sure how the numbers stack up on both sides. But inadequate people who need guns to feel big seem to inhabit all races.

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Originally Posted by chrisp_1927

Been lots of black panthers at numerous protests and the nfac group. Not sure how the numbers stack up on both sides. But inadequate people who need guns to feel big seem to inhabit all races.

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Isn’t that because of the precedent set by things like this though that is encouraged by the law in America?

I’d judge less harshly the people who are there just to protest for a good cause over someone out to “protect” a town who hangs about with racist groups doing the white power signs and then running to “conservative” news channels once the case is over.

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

Isn’t that because of the precedent set by things like this though that is encouraged by the law in America?

I’d judge less harshly the people who are there just to protest for a good cause over someone out to “protect” a town who hangs about with racist groups doing the white power signs and then running to “conservative” news channels once the case is over.

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The panthers were at a lot of the early protests if I remember rightly. I don’t really see a difference between the black panthers/nation of islam and white militias/kkk myself. They're all racist vermin

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Originally Posted by jimmyscoular

Sigh. No, he didn't.

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I saw something that said he did. Hence the question.

I've since replied to a poster who's provided a YouTube video with information in it..so now know how he came across possession of the gun.

Thanks for your sigh, you weird man.

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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue

It was good thanks.

I don’t know where you get your news but it’s quite clear what type your consuming and where you lean especially pretending to not know who the proud boys are but jumping on the Washington post from which the most clear story of this whole thing as been posted in this thread.

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You are quite clearly a Walter and a moron.

I felt a little bad for you after the public woodshedding that Jimmy gave you so engaged with you on this thread.
You post a few reasonable responses in this thread then revert to type.

First off you say you know where I get my news from.
Then you say you don't know.

For your information my understanding of this case was picked up from a few rival teams forums.
There, like here are are left and right minded folk of varying degrees....I try to read between the lines.

Why would I ask you about The Proud boys if I was clued up about them?
Just to pretend that I don't know about them?

Ok mate :thumbup: you sound deranged

Rittenhouse now claiming to support the Black Lives Matter movement!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...lson-interview

The right to self defence, what a load of bollocks.

If I’m in America and someone starts fighting me and I start fighting back at what point does it become acceptable for them to shoot me?

self defence or not, if he doesn't bring a weapon to a riot in another town then 2 dead people would now be alive.

imagine if during the Tottenham riots you drive to London brandishing a weapon. if you ended up killing someone even if it was in self defence then I'm sure the British legal system would hold your actions at least partially responsible

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Originally Posted by jimmyscoular

Sigh. No, he didn't.

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Smokers' wheeze Jimmy?

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Originally Posted by Rjk

self defence or not, if he doesn't bring a weapon to a riot in another town then 2 dead people would now be alive.

imagine if during the Tottenham riots you drive to London brandishing a weapon. if you ended up killing someone even if it was in self defence then I'm sure the British legal system would hold your actions at least partially responsible

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Makes me glad we have more enlightened gun laws in the UK

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Originally Posted by Rjk

self defence or not, if he doesn't bring a weapon to a riot in another town then 2 dead people would now be alive.

imagine if during the Tottenham riots you drive to London brandishing a weapon. if you ended up killing someone even if it was in self defence then I'm sure the British legal system would hold your actions at least partially responsible

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Mad isn’t it. The UK equivalent would be someone driving from Swindon with a knife to get involved in the Tottenham Riots and stabbing 3 people to death because some yob tried to take your knife off you.

No way you’re not getting sent down in the UK and rightly so

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Originally Posted by chrisp_1927

Makes me glad we have more enlightened gun laws in the UK

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It's not the laws it's the culture.

Owning firearms in this country is 'kinda' similar in laws. The problem is the culture.

They need to go the other way and get rid of the second amendment which will never happen in any of our lifetimes

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Originally Posted by Kitman

Mad isn’t it. The UK equivalent would be someone driving from Swindon with a knife to get involved in the Tottenham Riots and stabbing 3 people to death because some yob tried to take your knife off you.

No way you’re not getting sent down in the UK and rightly so

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Absolutely mad and this **** is being held up as a hero of the right wing politicians for some reason. And because of how polarised everything is everyone is desperate to defend him.

The law is stupid and Kyle Rittenhouse is a ****. Any other opinion makes me question someone’s sanity.

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Originally Posted by WJ99mobile

It's not the laws it's the culture.

Owning firearms in this country is 'kinda' similar in laws. The problem is the culture.

They need to go the other way and get rid of the second amendment which will never happen in any of our lifetimes

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In what ways are the laws similar?

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Originally Posted by Kitman

Mad isn’t it. The UK equivalent would be someone driving from Swindon with a knife to get involved in the Tottenham Riots and stabbing 3 people to death because some yob tried to take your knife off you.

No way you’re not getting sent down in the UK and rightly so

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To the law as I understand it not guilty was the correct decision but that's not to say the law isn't stupid

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Originally Posted by Kitman

Mad isn’t it. The UK equivalent would be someone driving from Swindon with a knife to get involved in the Tottenham Riots and stabbing 3 people to death because some yob tried to take your knife off you.

No way you’re not getting sent down in the UK and rightly so

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One massive difference. In that wandering around Swindon with a blade would be illegal. Crazily, wandering around an American city with a military style assault rifle isn't illegal.

If you want to use the fact he went armed against him, you need to use it against every other rambo wannabe who went armed to a protest.

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Originally Posted by Rjk

self defence or not, if he doesn't bring a weapon to a riot in another town then 2 dead people would now be alive.

imagine if during the Tottenham riots you drive to London brandishing a weapon. if you ended up killing someone even if it was in self defence then I'm sure the British legal system would hold your actions at least partially responsible

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I think this goes to the heart of the whole issue without needing to dissect the machinations of the US legal system.

This entire business of allowing marauding wannabee GI Joe's to carry even so much as a revolver, let alone a machine gun, is senseless beyond belief. Talk about the freedom to bear arms is puerile nonsense; what about the freedom stay alive rather than have your life taken away at the hands of some gun toting moron?

What on Earth goes on in these peoples' piece of tissue they use for a brain so that they think they can interfere with the work of professionals and rock up to some gig tooled up in order to enact their militaristic fantasies? And more to the point, why can't those who profess to wield power in the US not realize there are evil and powerful political puppet masters engineering this mayhem in the background?

I mean, would these numbskulls dream of commandeering their own fire engines to interfere with the work of firefighters as they are working to extinguish a dangerous fire? If not why then do they believe they have a right to interfere with the work of the police while they engage in fighting to quell nasty riots, and in so doing escalate the problem to a much higher level?

Our country is a long, long way from being perfect but I thank my lucky stars the powers that be would never ever allow such an absurdly dangerous situation to occur over here. Lethal weapons should be reserved for those that protect us and not available to the general populace full stop. This protects society at large from the immature egotistical idiot that we are all capable of being.

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

I think this goes to the heart of the whole issue without needing to dissect the machinations of the US legal system.

This entire business of allowing marauding wannabee GI Joe's to carry even so much as a revolver, let alone a machine gun, is senseless beyond belief. Talk about the freedom to bear arms is puerile nonsense; what about the freedom stay alive rather than have your life taken away at the hands of some gun toting moron?

What on Earth goes on in these peoples' piece of tissue they use for a brain so that they think they can interfere with the work of professionals and rock up to some gig tooled up in order to enact their militaristic fantasies? And more to the point, why can't those who profess to wield power in the US not realize there are evil and powerful political puppet masters engineering this mayhem in the background?

I mean, would these numbskulls dream of commandeering their own fire engines to interfere with the work of firefighters as they are working to extinguish a dangerous fire? If not why then do they believe they have a right to interfere with the work of the police while they engage in fighting to quell nasty riots, and in so doing escalate the problem to a much higher level?

Our country is a long, long way from being perfect but I thank my lucky stars the powers that be would never ever allow such an absurdly dangerous situation to occur over here. Lethal weapons should be reserved for those that protect us and not available to the general populace full stop. This protects society at large from the immature egotistical idiot that we are all capable of being.

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Spot on

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

I think this goes to the heart of the whole issue without needing to dissect the machinations of the US legal system.

This entire business of allowing marauding wannabee GI Joe's to carry even so much as a revolver, let alone a machine gun, is senseless beyond belief. Talk about the freedom to bear arms is puerile nonsense; what about the freedom stay alive rather than have your life taken away at the hands of some gun toting moron?

What on Earth goes on in these peoples' piece of tissue they use for a brain so that they think they can interfere with the work of professionals and rock up to some gig tooled up in order to enact their militaristic fantasies? And more to the point, why can't those who profess to wield power in the US not realize there are evil and powerful political puppet masters engineering this mayhem in the background?

I mean, would these numbskulls dream of commandeering their own fire engines to interfere with the work of firefighters as they are working to extinguish a dangerous fire? If not why then do they believe they have a right to interfere with the work of the police while they engage in fighting to quell nasty riots, and in so doing escalate the problem to a much higher level?

Our country is a long, long way from being perfect but I thank my lucky stars the powers that be would never ever allow such an absurdly dangerous situation to occur over here. Lethal weapons should be reserved for those that protect us and not available to the general populace full stop. This protects society at large from the immature egotistical idiot that we are all capable of being.

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Mindblowing how differently a lot of them see it though, the replies to this (as well as the original tweet) are :yikes:

https://twitter.com/ZubyMusic/status...476287500?s=20

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Originally Posted by delmbox

Mindblowing how differently a lot of them see it though, the replies to this (as well as the original tweet) are :yikes:

https://twitter.com/ZubyMusic/status...476287500?s=20

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I can’t believe they genuinely believe that. Yeah pal you and your gun collection is the only thing stopping that. All the armies would be shitting themselves at your 5 guns.

I only got 4 replies in, and I'd already counted 'scamdemic' and 'poison vaccine '

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Originally Posted by chrisp_1927

I only got 4 replies in, and I'd already counted 'scamdemic' and 'poison vaccine '

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I stopped reading at this one :hehe:

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Originally Posted by delmbox

Mindblowing how differently a lot of them see it though, the replies to this (as well as the original tweet) are :yikes:

https://twitter.com/ZubyMusic/status...476287500?s=20

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He's a hunter. He was on the Joe Rogan show promoting guns

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Originally Posted by delmbox

I stopped reading at this one :hehe:

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Fantastic 🤣.

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Originally Posted by delmbox

I stopped reading at this one :hehe:

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I'm totally against the abuse of photoshop too.

Twitter makes me laugh but then I realise satire was so last century and I invariably sink into a deep depression....

However, Thomas Massie with zero sense of irony describes himself as 'the greenest member of congress' in his profile. That did make me laugh....but now....

All this reminds me of the famous Tony Martin case. Remember him - the guy in Norfolk who was jailed for shooting a burglar who broke into his house in the night? When I told my American cousin (she lived near Wilkes Boro in Pa) the story she could not believe it as anyone who broke into their house would get both barrels with no recriminations whatsoever; and she was a caring, mild mannered person!!!

Also I think we have to remember that many Americans have a "them and us" attitude when it comes to Government, and in a much stronger sense than us Brits, to the point of paranoia about conspiracies to subdue the masses. Hence the advent of "preppers" etc.

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Originally Posted by delmbox

Mindblowing how differently a lot of them see it though, the replies to this (as well as the original tweet) are :yikes:

https://twitter.com/ZubyMusic/status...476287500?s=20

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from that link, not sure its on the CCMB approved list of links though ( I lose track on what we can take news from these days )

https://nypost.com/2021/11/21/armed-...rce=NYPTwitter

both of them are walking down the street with AR15 like its normal, which I guess to some it is :shrug:

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Originally Posted by delmbox

Mindblowing how differently a lot of them see it though, the replies to this (as well as the original tweet) are :yikes:

https://twitter.com/ZubyMusic/status...476287500?s=20

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My word I started on that rabbit hole of a thread

It’s mental how some of them think

https://twitter.com/az_rww/status/14...UvHpx_fig&s=19

im speechless

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Originally Posted by Rjk

https://twitter.com/az_rww/status/14...UvHpx_fig&s=19

im speechless

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Gross.

Whatever people's opinions on whether he should have been locked up or not, surely celebrating him is just too weird.

Let him rake in the money and then file a civil suit.

In other news, cult leader Donald Trump got booed by his own disciples yesterday for admitting to having been double vaxxed and boosted. Apparently "freedom" only counts when you choose to not get vaccinated. America is falling apart. Our system of government is ludicrous. Rupert Murdoch has conquered America.

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Originally Posted by Trigger

Gross.

Whatever people's opinions on whether he should have been locked up or not, surely celebrating him is just too weird.

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Absolutely. The guy was found not guilty and everyone should respect that, but you don't hold him up as a hero. it's still a grim tale.

There's a lot of false prophet worshipping in the United States.

Yanks have always been a bit warped but this lot, and more dangerously, their leaders are off the scale.

The phrase "he who lives by the sword dies by the sword" comes to mind. What an insane section of society there. I say section as I hope the majority of Americans are as appalled by this as we are.