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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
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Originally Posted by
kendoddsdadsdogsdead
If....we beat Austria..there will only be a few days to sell the 33000 tickets
I imagine they'd sell a double ticket and refund if we don't get there
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
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Originally Posted by
kendoddsdadsdogsdead
If....we beat Austria..there will only be a few days to sell the 33000 tickets
Wondered if they might sell the tickets as a pair
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
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Originally Posted by
kendoddsdadsdogsdead
If....we beat Austria..there will only be a few days to sell the 33000 tickets
They'l all be gone in 10 minutes and be sitting nicely in people's phones somewhere.
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
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Originally Posted by
kendoddsdadsdogsdead
..I was at Ninian Park in 85..****ing outnumbered big time..must not happen again..( if we both get through that is)
Any Jocks in our end should be ejected..after a slap..
They get about 2000 tickets max
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
All this talk of playing Scotland almost guarantees an Austria v Ukraine final
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
Hmmm. An unbiased & free draw comes out exactly in line with the UEFA rankings. The odds on that must be higher than a lottery win.
FIFA country seeding
6 Italy 1 v 67 North Macedonia 6
8 Portugal 2 v 37 Turkey 5
18 Sweden 3 v 31 Czech 4
19 Wales 4 v 30 Austria 3
34 Russia 5 v 27 Poland 2
38 Scotland 6 v 25 Ukraine 1
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
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Originally Posted by
Des Parrot
Hmmm. An unbiased & free draw comes out exactly in line with the UEFA rankings. The odds on that must be higher than a lottery win.
FIFA country seeding
6 Italy 1 v 67 North Macedonia 6
8 Portugal 2 v 37 Turkey 5
18 Sweden 3 v 31 Czech 4
19 Wales 4 v 30 Austria 3
34 Russia 5 v 27 Poland 2
38 Scotland 6 v 25 Ukraine 1
If it was true it would be weird, but they are not the order of seedings. If you are trying to propose a conspiracy theory I can debunk it easily. If FIFA fixed the draw do you really think they have made it impossible for Italy and Portugal to qualify?
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
Best way to sell both matches and stop the rush for the possible final.
Sell a double ticket of which if we don’t make the final then the void ticket becomes valid for the next nations league home match.
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
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Originally Posted by
19bluebirds27
Best way to sell both matches and stop the rush for the possible final.
Sell a double ticket of which if we don’t make the final then the void ticket becomes valid for the next nations league home match.
What if people can't make the next nations league home match? Better to refund surely?
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
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Originally Posted by
delmbox
What if people can't make the next nations league home match? Better to refund surely?
No.
Better that the money stays in the FAW. Maybe it can be used for another Nations match instead.
Doubt much would worry when they are acquiring there semi tickets.
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
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Originally Posted by
cityhammer
If it was true it would be weird, but they are not the order of seedings. If you are trying to propose a conspiracy theory I can debunk it easily. If FIFA fixed the draw do you really think they have made it impossible for Italy and Portugal to qualify?
I know but it’s hell of a coincidence and the odds would have been astronomical. 1v6 2v5 3v4 4v3 5v2 6v1
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
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Originally Posted by
19bluebirds27
No.
Better that the money stays in the FAW. Maybe it can be used for another Nations match instead.
Doubt much would worry when they are acquiring there semi tickets.
Seems overly complicated to me (and probably the FAW)
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
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Originally Posted by
Des Parrot
I know but it’s hell of a coincidence and the odds would have been astronomical. 1v6 2v5 3v4 4v3 5v2 6v1
I don’t think they are astronomical from a statistical POV. Considering half were seeded that line up had the exact same odds as any line up. More actually as Ukraine can’t play Russia.
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
Too many assuming we’re going to play Scotland if we beat Austria - Ukraine were undefeated in their group including two draws with France.
Exactly, Scotland beat 10 men Luxembourg 1-0 not so long ago
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
Don’t we have around 24,000 red wall members?
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
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Originally Posted by
Des Parrot
I know but it’s hell of a coincidence and the odds would have been astronomical. 1v6 2v5 3v4 4v3 5v2 6v1
A 1 in 720 chance, same as for any other draw.
However, it might be worth considering that the hardest part is probably getting the first 2/3 correct. Scotland and Wales were drawn first, so there was a 1/6 then 1/5 chance of getting the draws they did, so 1 in 30 chance of drawing the teams we did.
Next we have a 1/4 chance, then 1/3. Yes that moves the 1 in 30 to a 1 in 120 then a 1 in 360 overall, but a 1/4 probability isn't that unlikely, while a 1/3 chance is more likely again.
Once we get to Path C, it's a 50/50 chance of having the draw we did.
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
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Originally Posted by
Des Parrot
Don’t we have around 24,000 red wall members?
If they got over 30000 members and then can’t guarantee all a ticket would be interesting? They’re still selling memberships too so you’d think they might need to cap the numbers? I doubt they do mind as selling the memberships brings the money in.
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
I was too young for Anfield but heard the horror stories.
Was there in 85 and they were a nightmare that day.
I dont think we are looking at that sort of following and with seating its impossible anyway.
But Man U Liveroool fans obtained tickets and yes some got a slap and were ejected.
Some Jocks will get in.
I was 16 at the time of the Anfield game and travelled up on my own by train. We arrived at Rock Ferry train station, Birkenhead. They had laid on double-decker buses to take us to the ground. The journey to the ground (seemed to take ages) was quite uneventful, however, once arriving at the Kop End, things turned ugly.
We were up in the far right-hand corner of the terrace (looking out onto the pitch). The bottles, cans, lighters and coins were hurled at us throughout the game, there was never a lull in the barrage they sent over to us. The verbal abuse they gave us when leaving the ground was unbelievable.
I was there in '85 too - they had a bit of 'pay-back' then, well, at least on the Bob-Bank they did.
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
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Originally Posted by
Jordi Culé
If they got over 30000 members and then can’t guarantee all a ticket would be interesting? They’re still selling memberships too so you’d think they might need to cap the numbers? I doubt they do mind as selling the memberships brings the money in.
There were 5k more people at the Belgium game than for Belarus though despite them bundling the tickets together.
Hope this will be sold in the same old way with points given to people for away attendance, length of membership etc and a staggered timeslot to buy tickets. Some newer or less active members may miss out but I don't think they will be able to complain too much about that.
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
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Originally Posted by
caerkid
There were 5k more people at the Belgium game than for Belarus though despite them bundling the tickets together.
Hope this will be sold in the same old way with points given to people for away attendance, length of membership etc and a staggered timeslot to buy tickets. Some newer or less active members may miss out but I don't think they will be able to complain too much about that.
24,000 existing members, 3,000 away + segregation still leaves 6,000 available tickets, they’ll be a lot of new members signing up inan attempt to get those tickets.
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
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Originally Posted by
Des Parrot
24,000 existing members, 3,000 away + segregation still leaves 6,000 available tickets, they’ll be a lot of new members signing up inan attempt to get those tickets.
Just move it to the Mill Stad?
Catatonia and Manics CDs on the PA
Fire boxes next to pitch
Sounds fantastic
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
Just move it to the Mill Stad?
Catatonia and Manics CDs on the PA
Fire boxes next to pitch
Sounds fantastic
If we are lucky, the 'phonics might play a few tunes before the game live from the pitch
I am going to have to dig out Daffodil hat :wales:
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
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Originally Posted by
blue matt
If we are lucky, the 'phonics might play a few tunes before the game live from the pitch
I am going to have to dig out Daffodil hat :wales:
We may mock the leek waving, drunken, spew spouting knobheads who frequent the Arms Park but the Red Wall is catching up with its bucket hat clad, boot cut jeans wearing arses who think they're edgy because their sporting a Wales 1970 away top from Adidas.
Yes, I'm a miserable cuunt.
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
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Originally Posted by
blue matt
If we are lucky, the 'phonics might play a few tunes before the game live from the pitch
I am going to have to dig out Daffodil hat :wales:
And drink 15 pints and five sambucca’s
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
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Originally Posted by
Jordi Culé
We may mock the leek waving, drunken, spew spouting knobheads who frequent the Arms Park but the Red Wall is catching up with its bucket hat clad, boot cut jeans wearing arses who think they're edgy because their sporting a Wales 1970 away top from Adidas.
Yes, I'm a miserable cuunt.
100% With you on that.
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
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Originally Posted by
chrisp_1927
100% With you on that.
Yeah me too, the miserable cuunt :biggrin:
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
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Originally Posted by
MacAdder
Yeah me too, the miserable cuunt :biggrin:
To be honest I was actually going to put that in my original message. I'm only 34 but I'm virtually Victor Meldrew already !
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
Ukraine WILL beat Scotland 😊
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
If we play Scotland they will be amongst us guaranteed.
:hehe::thumbup:
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
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Originally Posted by
City123
I think Scotland are being massively overhyped. If we have a fully fit squad we'll win.
Scotland are playing better than they have for a generation. I would expect Scotland to beat Wales if we beat Ukraine.
You will need a fit and firing Gareth Bale to put that in doubt .
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
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Originally Posted by
OurManFlint II
Exactly, Scotland beat 10 men Luxembourg 1-0 not so long ago
Ah , so Scotland have no chance then.:hehe:
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
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Originally Posted by
Jimmy the Jock
Scotland are playing better than they have for a generation. I would expect Scotland to beat Wales if we beat Ukraine.
You will need a fit and firing Gareth Bale to put that in doubt .
against any of the 3 teams we would probably need one or both of Bale and Ramsey to be playing well in order for us to win.
as has largely been the case for the last several years.
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
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Originally Posted by
Jimmy the Jock
Scotland are playing better than they have for a generation.
In fairness this is hardly much of an achievement.
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
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Originally Posted by
Rjk
against any of the 3 teams we would probably need one or both of Bale and Ramsey to be playing well in order for us to win.
as has largely been the case for the last several years.
Agreed , but Scotland have been so poor for so long I wouldn't have given them a chance coming here.
They look like a well organised unit now that wont be push over for anyone.
They will still disappoint .
We are Scotland , its our birth right
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
In fairness this is hardly much of an achievement.
It is if you are Scottish .....
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
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Originally Posted by
Jimmy the Jock
Scotland are playing better than they have for a generation. I would expect Scotland to beat Wales if we beat Ukraine.
You will need a fit and firing Gareth Bale to put that in doubt .
:hehe:
Whilst I think Wales get over hyped, especially on here. Scotland beating Moldova and the Faroe Islands twice, is taking the biscuit on how all of a sudden some think they are good. Scotland are defiantly improved but one of the weakest in the play off's. They were garbage in the Euro Cup despite playing 2 games at home
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
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Originally Posted by
OurManFlint II
:hehe:
Whilst I think Wales get over hyped, especially on here. Scotland beating Moldova and the Faroe Islands twice, is taking the biscuit on how all of a sudden some think they are good. Scotland are defiantly improved but one of the weakest in the play off's. They were garbage in the Euro Cup despite playing 2 games at home
You have nothing to worry about then .:thumbup:
Lets hope they dispose of Ukraine and you can put them to the sword ...easily...:wales:
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
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Originally Posted by
Jimmy the Jock
Agreed , but Scotland have been so poor for so long I wouldn't have given them a chance coming here.
They look like a well organised unit now that wont be push over for anyone.
They will still disappoint .
We are Scotland , its our birth right
yeah they definitely look a different prospect now than a couple of years ago. you can't blame us for being pleased though when it could have been Italy or Portugal away
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
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Originally Posted by
Rjk
yeah they definitely look a different prospect now than a couple of years ago. you can't blame us for being pleased though when it could have been Italy or Portugal away
You'd think all 4 teams in our group will be quite happy with that draw when Spain and Italy were options.
The only thing in our favour is two home games really, other than that I think it's very tight. Very glad we won't have to play Scotland in Scotland the way they've been playing recently.
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Re: World Cup playoffs draw
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Originally Posted by
Jimmy the Jock
You have nothing to worry about then .:thumbup:
Lets hope they dispose of Ukraine and you can put them to the sword ...easily...:wales:
If you beat the Ukraine then it will be a worry.