Oscars Punch Up

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

I think you've stretched the keep calm comment quite a bit there to suit your point.

It may be the closest we come to having a comedian rip the piss into us, but it is expected in the situation. Perhaps Smith wasn't expecting to go to an award ceremony and get taken the piss out of, 2 different situations I think.

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You’re getting your rippings and takings all jumbled up as well as your into’s and out of’s.🙄

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Originally Posted by OurManFlint II

So if you were in a comedy show and laughing for 30 minutes at other people misfortune at the butt of the jokes, that's cool. The minute the comedian turns to you and your wife though, that's off limits? Or you would be outraged the very first joke where anybody was the the butt of the joke?

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There is a difference between piss-taking and making fun of how someone looks because of a health problem. The latter is not funny. And should be off-limits. So yes, I may have laughed at a few jokes about someone making a shit film or whatever. And yes, I would be outraged and angered if someone mocked my wife's physical appearance.

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Originally Posted by lardy

The people you went with had to tell you to keep calm? I guess I'm not surprised as you were praising Smith earlier in the thread.

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not sure what you mean by that, I had never been to a comedy club before, so I didnt know they " roast " the front row, so my mate warned me

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Originally Posted by lardy

Front row of a comedy club is the closest any of us are likely to come to this situation - unless you're going to tell us that someone you met at Disney invited you to the Oscars once :hehe:

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but its not the same is it, Will was heavily tipped to win a Oscar for best actor, how you can compare that to a trip to a comedy club and sitting in the front row is laughable and bordering on idiotic :hehe:

No, Ive never been invited to the Oscars

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

There is a difference between piss-taking and making fun of how someone looks because of a health problem. The latter is not funny. And should be off-limits. So yes, I may have laughed at a few jokes about someone making a shit film or whatever. And yes, I would be outraged and angered if someone mocked my wife's physical appearance.

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:thumbup: I can't believe anyone would argue with that

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Originally Posted by blue matt

not sure what you mean by that, I had never been to a comedy club before, so I didnt know they " roast " the front row, so my mate warned me

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warned you to "keep it calm". Wonder what he meant :shrug:

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Originally Posted by blue matt

but its not the same is it, Will was heavily tipped to win a Oscar for best actor, how you can compare that to a trip to a comedy club and sitting in the front row is laughable and bordering on idiotic :hehe:

No, Ive never been invited to the Oscars

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Wouldn't you say it's the closest that any of us would come to having a comedian making a joke about us in front of an audience? If we can only comment on things that we directly experienced ourselves, this board would have died years ago :hehe:

Take the piss out of some strangers partner in a public setting lardy etc and see what happens. I'd wager a good percent of the incidents if you went to aloud of random pubs, supermarkets, housing estates, town centres etc up and down the country would result in the bloke getting rather annoyed and at a minimum you'd get a torrent of verbal abuse.

Not saying that's the correct way to behave but it's inevitable that people will want to defend their partner and not many of them will follow the same views as a few posters on here.

I wouldn't dream of offending someone's partner, even for the greater good of an experiment, I reckon o could get lardy to punch me within 2 minutes of opening my mouth, just to prove a point. But I wouldn't lower myself to offend his wife to fond out. But I am convinced he would resort to violence like Smith if it happened absolutely 100 percent, goes for most on here who claim to be holier than thou and live like perfect saints.

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

Take the piss out of some strangers partner in a public setting lardy etc and see what happens. I'd wager a good percent of the incidents if you went to aloud of random pubs, supermarkets, housing estates, town centres etc up and down the country would result in the bloke getting rather annoyed and at a minimum you'd get a torrent of verbal abuse.

Not saying that's the correct way to behave but it's inevitable that people will want to defend their partner and not many of them will follow the same views as a few posters on here.

I wouldn't dream of offending someone's partner, even for the greater good of an experiment, I reckon o could get lardy to punch me within 2 minutes of opening my mouth, just to prove a point. But I wouldn't lower myself to offend his wife to fond out. But I am convinced he would resort to violence like Smith if it happened absolutely 100 percent, goes for most on here who claim to be holier than thou and live like perfect saints.

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Wow :hehe:

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Originally Posted by lardy

warned you to "keep it calm". Wonder what he meant :shrug:

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to keep calm and not take offence

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Originally Posted by lardy

Wouldn't you say it's the closest that any of us would come to having a comedian making a joke about us in front of an audience? If we can only comment on things that we directly experienced ourselves, this board would have died years ago :hehe:

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It was the Oscars though, he was tipped to win the best actor, he wasn't expecting some Comedian to make fun of his wife's illness with some cheap joke

Oh his wife was insulted by a comedian, so its like mere mortals going to a comedy club and sitting in the front row, you are clutching at straws now and stretching it a little far to a point of embarrassment :hehe:, but you crack on with it

It's pretty simple

Taking the piss out of something of your own decisions = fair game
Taking the piss out of something out of your control = not fair game

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Originally Posted by lardy

Wow :hehe:

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You think Smith is wrong to defend his wife, I think if you were put on the spot you would react the same way. I'm convinced of it.


Do your thing now where you laugh back and try to spin it, but you would 100 percent lose it if the right person offended your partner in front of you.

Shed expect you to defend her, and think less of you deep down if you didn't.

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Originally Posted by blue matt

to keep calm and not take offence



It was the Oscars though, he was tipped to win the best actor, he wasn't expecting some Comedian to make fun of his wife's illness with some cheap joke

Oh his wife was insulted by a comedian, so its like mere mortals going to a comedy club and sitting in the front row, you are clutching at straws now and stretching it a little far to a point of embarrassment :hehe:, but you crack on with it

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It was a cheap joke, but I'm sure Smith regrets his reaction. It should have been the best night of his life, winning Best Actor for the first time, and now all anyone will remember is this.


As goats said earlier in the thread, sort it out backstage.

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

You think Smith is wrong to defend his wife, I think if you were put on the spot you would react the same way. I'm convinced of it.


Do your thing now where you laugh back and try to spin it, but you would 100 percent lose it if the right person offended your partner in front of you.

Shed expect you to defend her, and think less of you deep down if you didn't.

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I'm laughing because it's barely two hours since you said:

"Your stance is clear. Are you just going to jeep on at everyone that hasa different opinion to you.

You seem offended that people think differently, should we all fall in line with your way of thinking thinking then? People are different. Get on with it. "

and then you're writing 200 words about how you could get me to punch you within 2 minutes to prove a point!

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

Take the piss out of some strangers partner in a public setting lardy etc and see what happens. I'd wager a good percent of the incidents if you went to aloud of random pubs, supermarkets, housing estates, town centres etc up and down the country would result in the bloke getting rather annoyed and at a minimum you'd get a torrent of verbal abuse.

Not saying that's the correct way to behave but it's inevitable that people will want to defend their partner and not many of them will follow the same views as a few posters on here.

I wouldn't dream of offending someone's partner, even for the greater good of an experiment, I reckon o could get lardy to punch me within 2 minutes of opening my mouth, just to prove a point. But I wouldn't lower myself to offend his wife to fond out. But I am convinced he would resort to violence like Smith if it happened absolutely 100 percent, goes for most on here who claim to be holier than thou and live like perfect saints.

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if you are that easily goaded into violence then you should have a good look at yourself IMO

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

You think Smith is wrong to defend his wife, I think if you were put on the spot you would react the same way. I'm convinced of it.


Do your thing now where you laugh back and try to spin it, but you would 100 percent lose it if the right person offended your partner in front of you.

Shed expect you to defend her, and think less of you deep down if you didn't.

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My girlfriend would be f**king livid if I slapped someone who made a joke about her, she'd rather deal with it herself (verbally) not have some guy kick off like she's weak and needs protecting from the nasty man by another man

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Originally Posted by lardy

I'm laughing because it's barely two hours since you said:

"Your stance is clear. Are you just going to jeep on at everyone that hasa different opinion to you.

You seem offended that people think differently, should we all fall in line with your way of thinking thinking then? People are different. Get on with it. "

and then you're writing 200 words about how you could get me to punch you within 2 minutes to prove a point!

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I could.

Every man walking on earth will defend their wife, it just happens that will Smith got wound up, on another occasion he may not have reacted the same, I think if the right buttons are pushed anyone can be cornered to react with violence. Even the holier than thou brigade on ccmb that live utterly perfect lives compared to the rest of South Wales.

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Originally Posted by delmbox

My girlfriend would be f**king livid if I slapped someone who made a joke about her, she'd rather deal with it herself (verbally) not have some guy kick off like she's weak and needs protecting from the nasty man by another man

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I did say in another post even if it's verbal.

I think anyone can be pushed to reacting violently and those that don't want to and walk away from it have thoughts about reacting violently, maybe they just don't have it in them to do it, who knows, but again, if continually pushed they would eventually react with violence.

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

I could.

Every man walking on earth will defend their wife, it just happens that will Smith got wound up, on another occasion he may not have reacted the same, I think if the right buttons are pushed anyone can be cornered to react with violence. Even the holier than thou brigade on ccmb that live utterly perfect lives compared to the rest of South Wales.

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Congrats, I'm sure that's a very useful skill to have.

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Originally Posted by Rjk

if you are that easily goaded into violence then you should have a good look at yourself IMO

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Who said I was :hehe:

I said its easy to do the goading.

Remind me how someone who can't start a game for Altrincham is better than Denham :hehe:

Go away.

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Originally Posted by lardy

Congrats, I'm sure that's a very useful skill to have.

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You think Smith reacted wrongly, my point is you would do the same if pushed, it doesn't have to be me that was just an example of how easy it can be..

No need to congratulate anyone in that condescending manner you seem to have.

Well done, you are fighting back with your keyboard :hehe: nearly there champ.

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

You think Smith reacted wrongly, my point is you would do the same if pushed, it doesn't have to be me that was just an example of how easy it can be..

No need to congratulate anyone in that condescending manner you seem to have.

Well done, you are fighting back with your keyboard :hehe: nearly there champ.

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Smith also thinks he reacted wrongly, and gave a long apology today.

I doubt Chris Rock would have made a joke about deafness, so shouldn't have made a joke about alopecia either, especiallyone directed at a particular individual. Doubt he would have gotten round to presenting an award if he had.
Should Will Smith have reacted as he did - of course not, but part of me thinks it was understandable. There are better ways to react.

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Originally Posted by lardy

Smith also thinks he reacted wrongly, and gave a long apology today.

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Probably because he wants his award :hehe:

Doesn't want to get cancelled and lose millions.

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

Probably because he wants his award :hehe:

Doesn't want to get cancelled and lose millions.

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Harvey Weinstein's still got his, I think Will Smith's award is safe

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Originally Posted by delmbox

Harvey Weinstein's still got his, I think Will Smith's award is safe

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Thank god for that.

I think all Smith had to do was stand up and shout "shame on you Chris for such a *ing crass remark" (*insert suitable noun here) and most of the people there, including the comedian, would have got the message.

I can't believe this topic has reached 6 pages already! :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by blue matt

it wasn't a punch, it was a slap

personally, I say good on him, Chris rock made a cheap shot for a cheap laugh ( which is expected with Chris rock ) at Will's wife, She took offence to it / was upset by it ( and why shouldn't she, alopecia can be a pretty big thing for people, imho especially women who want to look good with a nice "hair do") Will saw that and dealt with it

I guess Chris rock thought he was pretty safe making the cheap joke on stage at the Oscar's, he wasn't and it had a consequence

Well done Will :thumbup:

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she's going bald. There's not a man on the plant who is follically challenged that would take offence at any sort of baldy joke. Will Smith over-reacted. I wonder if he is now on his way back to Philly.

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Originally Posted by DryCleaning

she's going bald. There's not a man on the plant who is follically challenged that would take offence at any sort of baldy joke. Will Smith over-reacted. I wonder if he is now on his way back to Philly.

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Perhaps his overreaction was downbti the fragile recently history between him and his wife. They've had their problems..well she's enjoyed herself while he's had the problem..so perhaps now they may he back on track he's a little sensitive with comments aimed at his beloved wife..

I'm just a poster on ccmb, bot one of the panel of experts sorry so I don't really know.

Wonder how people feel about Anthony Joshua saying he should have closed his fist (more damage)

The ccmb flower power brigade must be seething reading that, but not too angry you understand, as that's not how they advocate people feel #bekind

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

Perhaps his overreaction was downbti the fragile recently history between him and his wife. They've had their problems..well she's enjoyed herself while he's had the problem..so perhaps now they may he back on track he's a little sensitive with comments aimed at his beloved wife..

I'm just a poster on ccmb, bot one of the panel of experts sorry so I don't really know.

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Boom...We have a winner!

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Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock

Boom...We have a winner!

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

Wonder how people feel about Anthony Joshua saying he should have closed his fist (more damage)

The ccmb flower power brigade must be seething reading that, but not too angry you understand, as that's not how they advocate people feel #bekind

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Wasn't he the one that advocated black people should only deal with black people recently?

So there are two people who think Will Smith did the right thing?

I think he may have to retract that statement .

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Originally Posted by dembethewarrior

Wonder how people feel about Anthony Joshua saying he should have closed his fist (more damage)

The ccmb flower power brigade must be seething reading that, but not too angry you understand, as that's not how they advocate people feel #bekind

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ooh good, we haven't had a new brigade in ages

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

I doubt Chris Rock would have made a joke about deafness, so shouldn't have made a joke about alopecia either, especiallyone directed at a particular individual. Doubt he would have gotten round to presenting an award if he had.
Should Will Smith have reacted as he did - of course not, but part of me thinks it was understandable. There are better ways to react.

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Tommy Tiernan told an excellent joke about the blind, afterwards he was congratulated by the blind person and society for the blind as they want to feel fully inclusive in everything.

https://www.reddit.com/r/interesting...m_source=share

Jeez. How would he have handled Ricky Gervais?

Remember how Don Rickles would ask some guy in the front row if that woman next to him was his wife? After being told she was, he would turn away with an appalled look on his face that said, "Thank God I'm not you."

People loved it. They would buy front-row seats in the hope of being blessed with a Rickles insult that they could talk about the rest of their lives. Celebs loved it, too, and he was by no means afraid to plunge the dagger.

For all that, Rickles (RIP) must be among the top five most beloved American comedians.

How did he do it?

Maybe Chris Rock could study him a bit.

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Originally Posted by OurManFlint II

Tommy Tiernan told an excellent joke about the blind, afterwards he was congratulated by the blind person and society for the blind as they want to feel fully inclusive in everything.

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Was it as good as the blind joke on the Vicar of Dibley?

Alan Davies (the QI Alan Davies) made an interesting observation this morning. He felt that the joke wasn't meant as a reference to alopecia per se, but that Chris Rock made the quick reference to GI Jane solely based on seeing a woman with a shaved head and wearing a green outfit. Not sure I buy it myself, or if Chris Rock has mentioned that that's what he did mind?

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

I can't believe this topic has reached 6 pages already! :biggrin:

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To quote someone on Twitter earlier:

"My thoughts on the Oscar Slap incident are that it's 70 degrees in Antarctica and what's left of the livable [sic] ecosystem is being destroyed and so we should focus on that."

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

Was it as good as the blind joke on the Vicar of Dibley?

Alan Davies (the QI Alan Davies) made an interesting observation this morning. He felt that the joke wasn't meant as a reference to alopecia per se, but that Chris Rock made the quick reference to GI Jane solely based on seeing a woman with a shaved head and wearing a green outfit. Not sure I buy it myself, or if Chris Rock has mentioned that that's what he did mind?

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Apparently Chris Rock didn't know she had alopecia. To be fair there's every chance he didn't - my cousin's got alopecia and he's completely hairless, no eyebrows, nothing. Jada Pinkett Smith's head looks like she's just shaved it

https://metro.co.uk/2022/03/29/oscar...ecia-16362361/

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Originally Posted by Raymond Holt

To quote someone on Twitter earlier:

"My thoughts on the Oscar Slap incident are that it's 70 degrees in Antarctica and what's left of the livable [sic] ecosystem is being destroyed and so we should focus on that."

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You could apply this virtue signalling whattaboutery nonsense to literally anything.... "my attitude towards the Cardiff Swansea game on Saturday is that people are dying in the Ukraine" for example

Of course those things are a million times more important and we should focus on them but that doesn't mean people aren't allowed to chat about trivial things as well