Good Morning Britain - Boris Johnson Interview

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

While I agree with what you say about comparing stats, that doesn’t apply here because you’ve got one set of figures (which you selected to prove a point), so you can make a direct comparison. Let’s have a look at specifics in that graph regarding pensioner poverty.

The graph starts at 94/95 with a pensioner poverty rate of 28 per cent. By the time the Major Government was voted out it had risen to 29 per cent, so I would suggest that “high and stable” when you’re discussing something like pensioner poverty would be better described as failure.

By 05/06, Labour had almost halved the figure to 16 per cent, only for it to rise a year later to 19 per cent, but, by the time they left office, it was 15 per cent, so the rate fell by 14 per cent in the thirteen years they were in power.

For the five years we had a coalition Government, the rate continued downwards, but at a much slower rate and it was down to 14 per cent when the Lib Dems left Government. Since then, with the Tories solely in charge, it had risen to 18 per cent by 19/20 and, with all that has happened since then, it’s hard to imagine that they’ve headed in any direction other than up.

Let’s leave guesswork out of it though, you posted the link to this chart to show that what you call the facts proved
that pensioner poverty had “significantly reduced” under the Conservatives - that’s simply not true, the most sympathetic interpretation I can put on it is that the modern day Tories have come pretty close to maintaining the levels Labour took it to after inheriting a failing system. They’ve come pretty close, but they haven’t succeeded - by any interpretation you care to make of those figures, they show that Labour Governments have been more successful than Conservative ones in tackling pensioner poverty in the last thirty years or so.

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I agree, my wording was not correct. It didn't significantly reduce, but it broadly remained at the lower level (lets say 13-16%) as opposed to the 28-16% level of the previous decade, which you rightly say, Blairs government made great strides in reducing.

Nonetheless, it is a fact that less pensioners were in poverty under this government than under Blairs. Just as Blair deserved credit for lowering the pensioner poverty rate, so too do successive Tory govts for (hitherto at least) keeping it at lower levels than before, especially as a poverty rate, unlike say health or education is something that neednt be cyclical - great sweathes could be put into or removed from poverty under any one policy decision.

I just disagree, as you know, with this idea that one party is good and one is bad. It simply isn't true, and people like Dorcus above labelling people 'tory twats' completely in the face of the stats before him.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61330552

Another Boris crime is he didn't know who Lorraine Kelly was hopefully Sir Kier jumps on this when in power

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61330552

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Shell made $9.13bn (£7.3bn) in the first three months of the year, nearly triple its $3.2bn profit it announced for the same period last year.

But the firm said pulling out of Russian oil and gas due to the Ukraine conflict had cost it $3.9bn (£3.1bn).

Let the profit grown then tax it , or better still take down VAT and green levy.

Shell has already said it will invest £20bn to £25bn in the UK in the next decade in low carbon energy and in UK gas and oil supplies.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Shell made $9.13bn (£7.3bn) in the first three months of the year, nearly triple its $3.2bn profit it announced for the same period last year.

But the firm said pulling out of Russian oil and gas due to the Ukraine conflict had cost it $3.9bn (£3.1bn).

Let the profit grown then tax it , or better still take down VAT and green levy.

Shell has already said it will invest £20bn to £25bn in the UK in the next decade in low carbon energy and in UK gas and oil supplies.

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So, leave the money that they lost pulling out of Russia out and they “only” made £5 billion in the first three months of this year. Therefore, it will take them a whole year to make the money they tell us they will be investing in the country over a decade.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

So, leave the money that they lost pulling out of Russia out and they “only” made £5 billion in the first three months of this year. Therefore, it will take them a whole year to make the money they tell us they will be investing in the country over a decade.

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And VAT is negligible at only 5% and take out the green levy and we won't have a world left to fight for! In all fairness these right wingers don't half come up with some clever ruses.

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

And VAT is negligible at only 5% and take out the green levy and we won't have a world left to fight for! In all fairness these right wingers don't half come up with some clever ruses.

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Are you capable of viewing any debate openly, as opposed to dumping an idea or position into one of two archaic terms (right or left wing) and then only considering the issue within those confines?

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Are you capable of viewing any debate openly, as opposed to dumping an idea or position into one of two archaic terms (right or left wing) and then only considering the issue within those confines?

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Yes thank you but I'm not interested in any of the rubbish you regurgitate which is usually patched up quips from Guido Fawkes. If you believe right or left wing is archaic then you are an even bigger fool than I take you for. The left right struggle is the essence of the human condition. Apart from that you bore me.

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

Yes thank you but I'm not interested in any of the rubbish you regurgitate which is usually patched up quips from Guido Fawkes. If you believe right or left wing is archaic then you are an even bigger fool than I take you for. The left right struggle is the essence of the human condition. Apart from that you bore me.

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I always imagine you typing these things all spluttering and waving your hands in the air. Your keyboard must be soaking. :hehe:

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

I always imagine you typing these things all spluttering and waving your hands in the air. Your keyboard must be soaking. :hehe:

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Well you've obviously got an overactive imagination. Sorry to dampen your spirits but I don't use a keyboard; I use a phone like many people do these days.

As I say I find you a totally boring jerk who is an attention seeker. But as it happens you have something of a fan in my wife who finds you hilarious. So all is not lost. I think of you as a complete loser but the wife has noticed you spend all your time on here so we think you don't work. Alternatively, given your pathetically outdated political views we view you as the thick kid who Daddy keeps in riches but doesn't allow to work in his company. Having read the nonsense you promulgate your Dad has got it right.

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

Well you've obviously got an overactive imagination. Sorry to dampen your spirits but I don't use a keyboard; I use a phone like many people do these days.

As I say I find you a totally boring jerk who is an attention seeker. But as it happens you have something of a fan in my wife who finds you hilarious. So all is not lost. I think of you as a complete loser but the wife has noticed you spend all your time on here so we think you don't work. Alternatively, given your pathetically outdated political views we view you as the thick kid who Daddy keeps in riches but doesn't allow to work in his company. Having read the nonsense you promulgate your Dad has got it right.

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You talk to your wife about James' posts?! I think you've lost any and all of the high ground that you thought you had over James :hehe:

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Originally Posted by Tito Fuente

You talk to your wife about James' posts?! I think you've lost any and all of the high ground that you thought you had over James :hehe:

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Ha ha, fair point, no she talks to me over them 😀

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Originally Posted by Tito Fuente

You talk to your wife about James' posts?! I think you've lost any and all of the high ground that you thought you had over James :hehe:

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:hehe::hehe::hehe:

I'll go tell my partner about life on mars now!

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Originally Posted by Tito Fuente

You talk to your wife about James' posts?! I think you've lost any and all of the high ground that you thought you had over James :hehe:

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I’ve just showed my wife your post, she thinks you’re old.

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

Well you've obviously got an overactive imagination. Sorry to dampen your spirits but I don't use a keyboard; I use a phone like many people do these days.

As I say I find you a totally boring jerk who is an attention seeker. But as it happens you have something of a fan in my wife who finds you hilarious. So all is not lost. I think of you as a complete loser but the wife has noticed you spend all your time on here so we think you don't work. Alternatively, given your pathetically outdated political views we view you as the thick kid who Daddy keeps in riches but doesn't allow to work in his company. Having read the nonsense you promulgate your Dad has got it right.

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Jesus Christ :hehe:

Your phone will get water damaged.

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

I’ve just showed my wife your post, she thinks you’re old.

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I showed your wife my post too. She wants a divorce.

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Originally Posted by Tito Fuente

I showed your wife my post too. She wants a divorce.

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I couldnt hear perfectly from under the bed but I don't think she said it with enormous conviction

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

I couldnt hear perfectly from under the bed but I don't think she said it with enormous conviction

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Not my business but where was TWGL1's mum when this was happening?

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

Not my business but where was TWGL1's mum when this was happening?

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Ask Sludge

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Are you capable of viewing any debate openly, as opposed to dumping an idea or position into one of two archaic terms (right or left wing) and then only considering the issue within those confines?

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Simple answer no he can't, it's a blinkered world, and it's everyone's else fault.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Jesus Christ :hehe:

Your phone will get water damaged.

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Think you pulled a vulnerable string this time , that was one hellva outburst , his phone battery must be under severe pressure , with the keyboard wearing down to its core. To be fair it's not easy on the original Nokia keyboards.