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15-06-22, 14:44
life on mars

Re: This flight to Rwanda

Some interesting Welsh views :

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/othe...f03d1c4722350b
15-06-22, 16:43
Lither_1927

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

I know stanni , for that is his name , very well

🤣
15-06-22, 18:00
SLUDGE FACTORY

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Originally Posted by Lither_1927

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Aye , stanni escaped persecution and was resettled here , ended up in Barry

Worked for many years for a company making lights . He now does building work and signs people up for this utility warehouse stuff

I would put him onto you but you clearly are a racist and anti semite

It shines through in your posts you ignorant little Welsh bully
15-06-22, 18:28
Lither_1927

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Aye , stanni escaped persecution and was resettled here , ended up in Barry

Worked for many years for a company making lights . He now does building work and signs people up for this utility warehouse stuff

I would put him onto you but you clearly are a racist and anti semite

It shines through in your posts you ignorant little Welsh bully

You're trying too hard to appear multicultural. Everyone knows you live in a nice safe white ethno town, maybe this is your white guilt shining through.

I don't think it's racist to object to your demographic replacement via mass immigration either. If only your story was the typical story, i'm telling you now multiculturalism will result in the balkanisation of Britain and a very bad time. Every civilisation that became multicultural ended in bloodshed and turmoil.
15-06-22, 18:32
cyril evans awaydays

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Originally Posted by Lither_1927

You're trying too hard to appear multicultural. Everyone knows you live in a nice safe white ethno town, maybe this is your white guilt shining through.

I don't think it's racist to object to your demographic replacement via mass immigration either. If only your story was the typical story, i'm telling you now multiculturalism will result in the balkanisation of Britain and a very bad time. Every civilisation that became multicultural ended in bloodshed and turmoil.

What happened to every civilisation that didn't?
15-06-22, 19:01
SLUDGE FACTORY

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Originally Posted by Lither_1927

You're trying too hard to appear multicultural. Everyone knows you live in a nice safe white ethno town, maybe this is your white guilt shining through.

I don't think it's racist to object to your demographic replacement via mass immigration either. If only your story was the typical story, i'm telling you now multiculturalism will result in the balkanisation of Britain and a very bad time. Every civilisation that became multicultural ended in bloodshed and turmoil.

Demographic replacement to you is Bridgend merging with Pencoed
15-06-22, 19:22
stevo

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Jesus...

"I can't believe the other side waging a culture way!" followed by wild accusations of leave voters being racist (with zero evidence) on a topic that is nothing to do with the referendum (illegal immigration is an issue in or out of the EU and globally) and bafflingly backed up by millionnaire EU home owning Will Self, as if that somehow gives the point legitimacy.

Lets break it down:

1 - In respect of immigration, leaving the EU treats people equally wherever they are from. EU immigration policy undeniably favours people from an overwhelmingly white place (the EU) over people from an overwhelmingly non white place (the rest of the world). Without a question, the EU's immigration policy is more racist.

2 - The EU itself has built fences and used water cannon against migrants. I mean, do you guys just have your fingers in your ears and your hands over your eyes or what? Have you seen what France did to people in Calais? Spain in Melilla? Greece in Turkey? Poland at their borders? Honestly, I can spell it out to you, but it's better you look yourself.

3 - Some of you buy into this absolute myth that Britain is some racist hell hole, for what? For not supporting endless numbers of people arriving via the channel having paid criminal gangs? By nature all of the people will not be British citizens, but doing something about it doesn't make a country racist, it makes them responsible. Putting aside the irony that it's white liberals that are telling the immigrants how racist our country is (in which case why are they coming here), there is no basis for the argument. None at all.

Honestly, these flights will take off, and rightly so. You cannot have a situation where anyone who wants to come here can do so. It is a totally unsustainable situation and you need to come up with some better policies than 'uR aLl RacIsTs' because if and when Labour are in power, there is no chance whatsoever they would tolerate this either.

You make some interesting points, but why are you, the tories and the rest of their supporters convinced that the Rwanda scheme will deter people crossing the channel? All you seem to come back with is - what’s your solution?

Well, if you can’t stop people crossing then there’s no solution to that problem.

But then sending them on to a corrupt country at exorbitant costs is immorally wrong.
15-06-22, 19:34
SLUDGE FACTORY

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Originally Posted by stevo

You make some interesting points, but why are you, the tories and the rest of their supporters convinced that the Rwanda scheme will deter people crossing the channel? All you seem to come back with is - what’s your solution?

Well, if you can’t stop people crossing then there’s no solution to that problem.

But then sending them on to a corrupt country at exorbitant costs is immorally wrong.

The question is not what are you proposing as an alternative to Rwanda

What those that are opposed to the asshole scheme is wtf is the UK doing ?

Not to be fielded with ......well can you do any better ?

It's the charge of the light brigade

Oh well we had a go but everyone got shot including lots of horses 🐎
15-06-22, 19:38
Alfresco

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Rwanda or the Copthorne I know where my preferred destination would be.
15-06-22, 19:44
delmbox

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

What happened to every civilisation that didn't?

Ask him what he meant by native British folk in that other thread, he tends to get weirdly quiet
15-06-22, 19:48
cyril evans awaydays

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Originally Posted by Alfresco

Rwanda or the Copthorne I know where my preferred destination would be.

This is all about punishing the people traffickers not the people. You need to get on message.
15-06-22, 19:56
Lither_1927

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Originally Posted by delmbox

Ask him what he meant by native British folk in that other thread, he tends to get weirdly quiet

Not quiet at all, just didn't fancy walking "hatchlings" through the basics. Everyone has an idea who the native British are, if they don't, an ancestry DNA test will tell them. sCiEnCe yOu sEe.
15-06-22, 19:59
Tuerto

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Originally Posted by Lither_1927

Not quiet at all, i won't walk "hatchlings" through the basics. Everyone has an idea who the native British are, if they don't, an ancestry DNA test will tell them. sCiEnCe yOu sEe.

Yeah, it's a bit like evicting people from their homes and knocking down their houses in order to get domestic burglary Crime statistics down.
15-06-22, 20:10
cyril evans awaydays

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Originally Posted by Lither_1927

Not quiet at all, just didn't fancy walking "hatchlings" through the basics. Everyone has an idea who the native British are, if they don't, an ancestry DNA test will tell them. sCiEnCe yOu sEe.

https://www.ancestry.com/corporate/i...sh-as-we-think

The Ancestry DNA site says the average person in the UK is 37% British (Anglo-Saxon), 22% Irish/Celtic and 20% Western European (France/Germany). Of the other 20% half are scandanavian.

Where do you draw your line on British folk? yOU CaN UsE ScIENce in your answer if you wish!
15-06-22, 20:11
Alfresco

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

This is all about punishing the people traffickers not the people. You need to get on message.

People traffickers are like drug dealers there will always be a replacement. Can't blame people for wanting to come to the UK, every thing is free.
15-06-22, 20:15
cyril evans awaydays

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Originally Posted by Alfresco

People traffickers are like drug dealers there will always be a replacement. Can't blame people for wanting to come to the UK, every thing is free.

Only if you are a forriner though. If you say you are British you get arrested and thrown in jail.
15-06-22, 20:17
SLUDGE FACTORY

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

Only if you are a forriner though. If you say you are British you get arrested and thrown in jail.

What these days if you say you are British you get arrested and thrown in jail ? 🤔
15-06-22, 20:22
Lither_1927

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

https://www.ancestry.com/corporate/i...sh-as-we-think

The Ancestry DNA site says the average person in the UK is 37% British (Anglo-Saxon), 22% Irish/Celtic and 20% Western European (France/Germany). Of the other 20% half are scandanavian.

Where do you draw your line on British folk? yOU CaN UsE ScIENce in your answer if you wish!

I draw the line at the average silly 😜

Name me a civilisation that has embraced multiculturalism and not eventually collapsed violently along racial lines
15-06-22, 20:27
cyril evans awaydays

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Originally Posted by Lither_1927

I draw the line at the average silly ��

Name me a civilisation that has embraced multiculturalism and not eventually collapsed violently along racial lines

United States of America, Brazil.

Your go
15-06-22, 20:39
cyril evans awaydays

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Originally Posted by Lither_1927

I draw the line at the average silly ��

Name me a civilisation that has embraced multiculturalism and not eventually collapsed violently along racial lines

On the other side of the coin, apart from in dissappointment for you, what happened to the Third Reich?
15-06-22, 20:45
Lither_1927

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

United States of America, Brazil.

Your go

Brazil has black flavela's with huge problems with gun crime from those areas. People live behind gated communities, if that's your standardard for multi cultural harmony you're in bother.

America???? Is that the best you can do cyril? They had racial segregation in the South until the 60s and the society is still fractured along racial lines.

It is also a new civilisation so the decay is slowly happening, but definitely coming, you only have to see the stats with black on White violence to know that. This year alone there's been racist mass shootings from all races against another others race. Anymore attempts?
15-06-22, 20:46
Sts'ikel

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The £5m a day figure is a total mirage. It's £4.7m and £3m of that is the Afghans with secured immigration status who were evacuated last year, including many who supported British Armed Forces.

The really basic thing I've not really seen mentioned here is that there is no route to claim asylum in the UK from outside the UK. If a route was made enabling people to claim asylum at UK embassies around the world then it massively undermines the people smuggling business model.
15-06-22, 20:51
Eric the Half a Bee

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Originally Posted by Lither_1927

I draw the line at the average silly 😜

Name me a civilisation that has embraced multiculturalism and not eventually collapsed violently along racial lines

Are you saying that it's acceptable for countries to collapse violently along racial lines due to multiculturalism? If not, then surely you must accept that multiculturalism will work one day and will be acceptable.
15-06-22, 20:52
cyril evans awaydays

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Originally Posted by Lither_1927

Brazil has black flavela's with huge problems with gun crime from those areas. People live behind gated communities, if that's your standardard for multi cultural harmony you're in bother.

America???? Is that the best you can do cyril? They had racial segregation in the South until the 60s and the society is still fractured along racial lines.

It is also a new civilisation so the decay is slowly happening, but definitely coming, you only have to see the stats with black on White violence to know that. This year alone there's been racist mass shootings from all races against another others race. Anymore attempts?

So the Third Reich it is then!
15-06-22, 21:05
Alfresco

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

So the Third Reich it is then!

People like you destroy any honest and productive discussion on immigration.
15-06-22, 21:08
cyril evans awaydays

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Originally Posted by Alfresco

People like you destroy any honest and productive discussion on immigration.

I was replying to Lither's assertion that only multi-cultural societies end in disaster and bloodshed. If you find the comparison with a mono-cultural society distasteful then it's your choice I guess!
15-06-22, 21:08
SLUDGE FACTORY

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Originally Posted by Alfresco

People like you destroy any honest and productive discussion on immigration.

To be fair we are dealing with a textbook duffer here mate
15-06-22, 21:08
Lither_1927

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

Are you saying that it's acceptable for countries to collapse violently along racial lines due to multiculturalism? If not, then surely you must accept that multiculturalism will work one day and will be acceptable.

Multiculturalism from races so different to each other will never work without bloodshed and persecution. There is no precedent for it in human history. We are living in a mass experiment that will go badly wrong. I take no joy in saying that. I'm just realistic about human nature and i don't like raising my kids in a dangerous environment. You can't blame me for that.
15-06-22, 21:09
cyril evans awaydays

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

To be fair we are dealing with a textbook duffer here mate

I've been called worse!
15-06-22, 21:11
Lither_1927

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

So the Third Reich it is then!

Lol behave. You didn't really believe what you were arguing, you just like a good row 😘
15-06-22, 21:20
cyril evans awaydays

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Originally Posted by Lither_1927

Lol behave. You didn't really believe what you were arguing, you just like a good row ��

I'm not clear how you educate your kids about the country they are growing up in? How you react if you take your kids to their first Cardiff match and a non-British folk scores the winning goal. How they manage when their mates go to Indian or Chinese Restaurants and you tell them the people who served them are not really British. I might like the odd on-line argument but there is an underlying sadness about the country we are becoming!
15-06-22, 21:27
Taunton Blue Genie

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Originally Posted by Lither_1927

I draw the line at the average silly ��

Name me a civilisation that has embraced multiculturalism and not eventually collapsed violently along racial lines

Can you name a European country that does not have a cultural mix that goes back centuries?
15-06-22, 21:30
Lither_1927

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

Can you name a European country that does not have a cultural mix that goes back centuries?

Define "Cultural mix"
15-06-22, 21:31
Eric the Half a Bee

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Originally Posted by Lither_1927

Multiculturalism from races so different to each other will never work without bloodshed and persecution. There is no precedent for it in human history. We are living in a mass experiment that will go badly wrong. I take no joy in saying that. I'm just realistic about human nature and i don't like raising my kids in a dangerous environment. You can't blame me for that.

So, for the benefit of doubt, you are totally against multiculturism in Wales and the UK?
15-06-22, 21:33
+ the native hipster

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

Can you name a European country that does not have a cultural mix that goes back centuries?

a voluntary mix or due to invasion ?
15-06-22, 22:16
OurManFlint II

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Originally Posted by Lither_1927

Anymore attempts?

Andorra, Tanzania, Qatar, Canada...
15-06-22, 22:29
Lither_1927

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Originally Posted by OurManFlint II

Andorra, Tanzania, Qatar, Canada...

Need a bit more meat on the bone. What is the ethnic mix of Andora, Tanzania, Qatar...
I'm not having Qatar. Isn't Qatar vast majority sunni muslim arabs, who operate under strict islamic laws and operate modern day slavery of migrant workers from the 3rd world? There's no doubting the native population are in charge in Qatar.

Canada has undergone the mass immigration experiment under globalist Trudeau. It will decay and fragment.

Multi cultural societies become low trust societies with higher crime. Ethno states like Japan and Finland are high trust societies with low crime and very low immigration. People trust each other more. Although Finland is changing in that respect. Sweden was a high trust society but has gone to the dogs since mass immigration. It'll probably be an Islamic state in 100 years.
15-06-22, 22:30
Lither_1927

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15-06-22, 23:11
Lither_1927

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Originally Posted by OurManFlint II

Andorra, Tanzania, Qatar, Canada...

The case against Tanzania...

"Crime is a serious problem in Tanzania, and visitors should be alert and cautious. Street crime in Dar es Salaam is common and includes mugging, bag snatching, vehicle theft, "smash and grab" attacks on vehicles, armed robbery, burglary, and home invasions."

In early 2015, Maasai and Datoga citizens living in the Morogoro region of Tanzania were victims of deadly, ethnic violence. According to reports from local media, the assaults were instigated by public figures interested in acquiring land, and state authorities have not intervened to protect Maasai citizens. Police protection has instead been given to others who are illegally cultivating officially registered Maasai land.

Due to ongoing assaults, Maasai living in the region are frightened to be in public. They are not receiving health care, attending school and university, or carrying out usual economic activities. Despite appealing to district, regional and national authorities, no protection or recourse to justice has been provided to the affected Maasai citizens or communities to date.

The most recent assaults have been occurring since mid-January 2015, and follow years of poor governance in the Morogoro region. Illegal evictions, dispossession of Massai citizens, and human rights violations have become daily life for indigenous people in the area. Serious concerns were recently voiced in the Tanzanian Parliament, and it is feared that the attacks could descend into ethnic based violence and spread across the country.

The brief calls for urgent action to halt the violence in the Morogoro Region and to put a stop to the current culture of impunity. It states that without strong and public action from the highest levels, Maasai and Datoga citizens will continue to be stigmatized and the prospective of nation-wide violence will remain a threat to stability, development, and peace in Tanzania.

Also, i read that 95% of Tanzania are of the bantu linguistic tradition, with different tribes stemming from that. Have i read right? It was a speed read so maybe i'm wrong.
16-06-22, 02:48
SLUDGE FACTORY

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Originally Posted by Lither_1927

The case against Tanzania...

"Crime is a serious problem in Tanzania, and visitors should be alert and cautious. Street crime in Dar es Salaam is common and includes mugging, bag snatching, vehicle theft, "smash and grab" attacks on vehicles, armed robbery, burglary, and home invasions."

In early 2015, Maasai and Datoga citizens living in the Morogoro region of Tanzania were victims of deadly, ethnic violence. According to reports from local media, the assaults were instigated by public figures interested in acquiring land, and state authorities have not intervened to protect Maasai citizens. Police protection has instead been given to others who are illegally cultivating officially registered Maasai land.

Due to ongoing assaults, Maasai living in the region are frightened to be in public. They are not receiving health care, attending school and university, or carrying out usual economic activities. Despite appealing to district, regional and national authorities, no protection or recourse to justice has been provided to the affected Maasai citizens or communities to date.

The most recent assaults have been occurring since mid-January 2015, and follow years of poor governance in the Morogoro region. Illegal evictions, dispossession of Massai citizens, and human rights violations have become daily life for indigenous people in the area. Serious concerns were recently voiced in the Tanzanian Parliament, and it is feared that the attacks could descend into ethnic based violence and spread across the country.

The brief calls for urgent action to halt the violence in the Morogoro Region and to put a stop to the current culture of impunity. It states that without strong and public action from the highest levels, Maasai and Datoga citizens will continue to be stigmatized and the prospective of nation-wide violence will remain a threat to stability, development, and peace in Tanzania.

Also, i read that 95% of Tanzania are of the bantu linguistic tradition, with different tribes stemming from that. Have i read right? It was a speed read so maybe i'm wrong.

Some of the stuff you come out with sounds like white supremacist nonsense

I mean the world is a lot smaller than it used to be . People move . If tribes could travel thousands of miles in days gone by then easyjet is a god send !

It's what human beings do

The world will be a better place when it's full of coffee coloured people ! ......in other words we are all heinz 57 and mixed up

In 100 years , when some of us are dead , things will be different from what they are now

It's life and that life is far too short to be used embroiled in a battle of who was born where and who should live on a piece of land instead of someone else

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