Rumour at the Southampton academy ( at Bath STV ) was that he ( Matt ) was planning to leave Southampton before Christmas, has a bigger gig lined upQuote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
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Rumour at the Southampton academy ( at Bath STV ) was that he ( Matt ) was planning to leave Southampton before Christmas, has a bigger gig lined upQuote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
Why do people think he is the answer???? Failed at Stoke.....mediocre at Luton...now failing at SouthamptonQuote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
Would not touch him with a bargepole.....
Because he’s a city fan, people think that makes him a better manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maurice Swan
He could save money by paying the inevitable Sala fee, strengthening the team and building something.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
He’s a Spurs fan, I was reliably informed of that by some Rhondda lads I know very well.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo
yeah...that is part of the problem....Quote:
Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo
Mediocre? He took over Luton when they were 15th in League 2 and left them 2nd in League 1 3 years later. He returned to Luton with them 23rd in the Championship with 9 games to go, finished 19th. They finished 12th the season after and last season finished 6th, narrowly losing in the playoff semi finalQuote:
Originally Posted by Maurice Swan
If you think Jones' time at Luton was mediocre, i'd hate to see what success is in your eyes. As a caveat, everybody failed at Stoke, that period is worse then anything we are going through.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maurice Swan
...and in the meantime...Southampton 0-1 down....6 defeats in a row looming......equalling their club record.
My view has not changed.,...not convinced even a tiny jot.
...and as an aside (nothing to do with Jones...) WHAT has possessed Southampton to choose heir current strip...bloody awful......probably some commercial condition.........what is wrong with tradition????
Meanwhile…..Carlos Corberan has lost two but won 8 since taking over at West Brom.Quote:
Originally Posted by Former Labour leader
Wasn’t he available when the club fired Morison?
yes...and would have been a great acquisition....Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff
Until May I’m sure they wouldQuote:
Originally Posted by Ninian1962
You are right , your input on this matter is wrong wether you thinkmits constructive or notQuote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
You don't like route one football because it works
Didn't work very well last time we tried itQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
In fact we were at our best under Warnock when we didn't play route one football
It worked great in the Premier League.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
I beg to differQuote:
Originally Posted by City123
The football under warnock in his first season and the championship season was about as direct as it gets
It's exactly what is required now wether warnock or someone else does it
Percentages , free kicks , throw ins
Shots on targets
We tried to play football and that's why we went downQuote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
We could have been another Stoke
Nope, our best football was the stuff we played early in the promotion season which included plenty of play on the floor. Direct? Sure, but it certainly wasn't route oneQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Also, the last time we played long ball football we lost 8 in a row
Those who actually attended games in the promotion season under Warnock will know we played some cracking passing football - Warnock reverting to type when he saw how high up the table we were and that promotion was a distinct possiblilty.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
People also remember playing Man Utd off that park at Old Trafford without resorting to "percentages, free kicks, throw ins".
If you read my post, I didn't say this is what is going to happen, but it's what a sensible person buying a business they know **** all about would do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff
Having watched the City since 1971, I must be delusional thinking they could really achieve their potential, once a billionaire became involved.
Were not in the shit because of Hudson, were in the shit because of the inept leadership or lack of leadership from the board, since we got promoted under Warnock.
Although, Hudson inevitably will be sacked sooner rather than later and the whole cycle will continue again.
Well as I was watching the very same games then again you are clearly deludedQuote:
Originally Posted by logic
If we want to talk about percentages, the amount of chances created by free kicks, corners and throw ins is around 11% of all chances created. 23% of Championship goals come from set pieces, so it's hardly high percentage football unless you've got great delivery and lots of tall players, which we haven't got.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Perhaps some of us are getting a bit confused by what you mean by long ball. Are you advocating just whacking it aimlessly upfield in the hope of winning a flick-on or getting the second ball? As percentages go, it's pretty low percentage football. With the players we have it would be almost 0% successful.
There's a difference between long ball and direct. It's very possible to be a direct side who gets the ball forward early
No it wasn'tQuote:
Originally Posted by City123
I reckon the vast majority of City fans would say the best football we played that season was at the start, when we were hardly a side that whacked it upfield with little aim. I've read so many times on here that the football we were playing at the end of the season was atritional at times and I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Yes it was. Look back at the highlights of the Villa game. We played some lovely stuff. We weren't long ball at Wolves, either.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
I thought the man who wants us playing liquid football would turn up with some kind of philosophical burger to sellQuote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
Well I ain't buying it
Stoke City 2008 to 2018
Ten years they upset the big boys with anti football you lot would call it
Ten years of them beating the likes of united and spurs
And all some would do was to say it was boring football
Jesus wept sort yourselves out
I don't need to look at highlights . I was at both games .Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
Surely not; you and everyone else are clearly deluded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
Well you two areQuote:
Originally Posted by logic
Really wanted us to go for him. Was never likely though. Doubt they've even heard of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff
Of course they would.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
Most people want fast-attacking football with the ball arriving in the box quickly and players having some shots in a game, not 90 minutes with one shot on target all game and hardly any other shots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
One of the best parts of the game from a fan's point of view is celebrating goals.
And we played the same long ball, aimless football, that we used at the end of the season? You're prepared to commit yourself to this answer? I suggest you've been smoking too much wacky stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
I couldn't agree more, but the reason we're hardly getting any shots on target or goals is because we're desperately short of talent in attacking areas, not what football we play.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
I've never suggested I want us playing whatever the feck liquid football is.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
I just think hoofing the ball aimlessly up field is a total waste of time and is utterly boring. I asked you a question about the difference between direct football and long ball football. Perhaps you'll answer it.
Under warnock we were a long ball direct route one team whatever you want to call itQuote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
You of course like it when you can pretend it's something it wasn't
Just done it . You can call what you think is worth watching total football , pass and move , the Swansea way blah blah blahQuote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
You don't like old school football well the pretty football you like is taking us down
You lot won't have it and again tonight you pick at bits of warlocks time here to suit your own agenda
Well you lot were not complaining when we were going up 👆
Are you stoned?Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Stoke City 2008 to 2016 premier leagueQuote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
I bet if we got there with a robust approach , beating united and the like you would stay at home , depressed
Those days have gone. nobody has been successful playing hoof ball in yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY