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It was reported that Sala did not want to leave Nantes - I didn’t know his game well enough to say whether he would have settled in a strange environment after leaving a city he clearly liked. Also, “one season wonder” is a harsh way to describe Sala’s career, but he was having the season of that career in 18/19.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
That said, I agree - no one can say with any certainty how good or bad Sala would have been for us.
We haven’t got a clue how Sala would have fared with us. But you also said that the managers since Warnock are the main problem. I’m more of the opinion that the expensive deadwood he left us with who we had to give a costly heave-ho to are a massive part of the problem. Also his involvement and, no doubt, ‘finger in the pie’ re. The whole Sala affair is another massive problem that’s rearing it’s ugly head in our current predicament. The repercussions that the club are suffering due to his involvement with the McKay’s and their ‘cut to the bone, in order to maximise their cut’ are reverberating loud and clear today. Warnock’s legacy has destabilised the club considerably.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
Personally I was gutted Warnock didn’t come back here. I thought he worked miracles for us last time but sadly after what happened with Sala I just think he never really got over it and it was a downward spiral for him and the team after that. Obviously I’m hoping he does badly for them but he certainly has the experience of dragging a team out of the bottom 3.
You aren’t going to win this argue with some people.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
We all know that Warnock has/had plenty of faults but people still blaming him for the plight of the club and yet not wanting to recognise his other achievements, that you outline above (we’ll never know about Sala so I can’t comment on your reference to that flight) is just delusional.
We can agree to disagree on the last bit, I think anyone with half a brain would know that if a team struggling for goals signed the striker with the 2nd best record in France (at that time) it would increase their goal tally and give an additional three points.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff
Yes people can say that if he got injured he may not have played so well etc, but barring an injury in the first game he would have given a massive lift, instead, he gave a massive shock and sent us down. Of course we can't prove it but it's obvious.
Agree with the rest, he made some mistakes but without his promotion, we wouldn't have had the money to make the mistakes. If we had employed any of the others instead of him, we wouldn't have had the promotion in the first place.
Think this is another area where Tan shows a lack of understanding of football. You get good managers, bad managers, good managers who don't work out and bad managers who surpass expectations.
Just because you install a manager and give him money doesn't mean he will be successful.
Just because one manager built a squad partially on freebies it doesn't mean that giving another licence to build a whole squad from freebies is the way to go.
It just shows a large lack of knowledge of football and how these things sometimes pan out.
You can't just make sweeping changes like 'let's play attacking football' or 'let's cut the wage bill' without having some sort of plan. Football doesn't work that way.
As has been pointed out Warnock got us promoted so put a fair bit of money into the club. Yes, he bought what Tan feels are dud footballers, prime example being Murphy, bit it is part and parcel of football.
You reassess and try to get it right the next time. You don't just throw the rule book out and try to do it your own way. In this case - inexperienced managers playing kids, freebies and loan signings with next to no support above them.
Warnock would have galvanised the squad and the club and I'm almost sure he will do it with Huddersfield.
Noticed a few hedging their bets on here too. Slagging him off then saying they wouldn't be surprised if he kept them up. Cover all those bases. :hehe:
Agreed. :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
Warnock starts Saturday, very tough job, a weak squad and no confidence, lost the last game 3 nil to Stoke who have been poor. Huddersfield have not one once in their last six games prior to Warnck with just 2 draws.
Pre Warnock
QPR 39
Birmingham 38
Stoke 37
Rotherham 33
Cardiff 32
.........................
Wigan 30
Huddersfield 28
Blackpool 28
Lets see how he does with 15 games, less than a third of the season to go, interesting to see where we finish too.
Watch out for QPR they are in freefall, unless something happns quick they could be in trouble.
QPR probably have enough points but they've scored less goals than us since they beat us at Loftus Road, and that was before we scored two on Tuesday!Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
Thought they were dreadful and there for the taking on Boxing Day - strange, they’ve got a lot of talented players, but the highly rated Critchley has done nothing to improve them yet. Think they only need two or three wins to be safe mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
Same, they made us look half decent :hehe:. We should have scored more than once.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
They've scored 8 goals in their last 15 and have 9 points in that time. That is remarkable. Critchley has 1 win in 11 games, I wonder if he's in trouble? I think they'll be OK with 48 points ish, so if they repeat the last 15, they'll just about be OK.
My mate is a QPR fan, and he is worried, he can't see where a win is coming from, (we know how that feels) he was laughing about us, but not anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
They should have enough points, but they need to break the losing streak which gets harder the longer it goes on.
Typical Warnock, he would have come here if we had asked, but I'm very happy with Lamouchi now.
Neil Warnock revealed it was only going to be the Terriers or Cardiff City would have got him out of retirement.
WalesOnline
Warnock, 74, was this week appointed manager of the Championship strugglers, who will be fighting tooth and nail with the Bluebirds to remain in the second tier between now and the end of the season.
He was heavily linked with a return to Cardiff City Stadium following the sacking of Mark Hudson, and remained favourite for the job for some time, despite the veteran retiring from management after his spell with Middlesbrough came to an end.
Cardiff, however, decided to go down a different route and appointed Sabri Lamouchi on a deal until the end of the season.
Lamouchi and Warnock will now go head to head in a bid to keep their respective sides up. At his press conference unveiling, Warnock said he would have only returned to a club he loved, like Huddersfield or Cardiff.
He told our sister site YorkshireLive: "It's a great challenge really. I always thought if I came back in at some change it'd be end of Feb. I only want to work 10 weeks a year if I'm honest, and it was always going to be a club I love like Huddersfield or Cardiff. She's (wife Sharon) always said to me, 'why don't you do that?'
"I have to say though, it's asking a lot for us to get in the play-offs."
It's clear he didn't need too much persuading to get back in the dugout, although he added he's yet to sign an official contract with his old/new club.
"It's a very special time," he said. "Ronnie Jepson rollicks me every time we go back in time, because he was convinced we could have gone into the Premier League if I stayed here. But the chairman lied to me and I fell out with him and that's me really.
"Incidentally I've not even signed anything here yet, but that's by the by isn't it.
"But I was really taken aback when I came here for the Stoke game earlier this season. I said to Sharon, 'wow, I didn't expect that'. We had two Wembley appearances and a lot of people of that age group, it meant a lot to them.
"I've got goose pimples talking to you now and I want the fans to be excited. Listen, I can't tell you if we can do anything like that. We're odds on favourites to get relegated. But we've got to try, give the fans something to shout about and win games."
Asked if he'll be able to keep them up, Warnock replied: "I don't really think about things like that. If they get relegated I won't be blamed, will I? It's a piece of cake really. All my career, other managers don't like to play my teams I don't think."
I caught a bit of him on the radio, he said every club that he’s left, he’s left them in a better place:sherlock:Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
He’s being misquoted. He actually said it was only going to be a club he loved like Huddersfield, or Cardiff, or QPR. He then went on to say Sharon has always loved Huddersfield.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
Let’s be honest, if he’d taken over at Rotherham it would be the same stuff.
Was it St. Mirren he was talking to just before he came here? Needless to say, they were his kind of club.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
I suppose we were about six places higher in the table when he left compared to when he arrived, but I think it’s stretching things to say he left us better off.Quote:
Originally Posted by splott parker
https://www.theguardian.com/football...ddersfield-job
The usual guff from Neil. He's a character as some say.
So glad the dinosaur wasn't asked to come here.
Danny Gabbidon’s not bothered by Neil Warnock’s appointment at Huddersfield.
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...towns-26263958
And all the cupboards bare!!Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
He's partly right it's in our own hands, a win tonight and I think we will comfortably pull away!Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
They're at home to Birmingham tomorrow, Warnock won't really have had any time, but let's see where we both are tomorrow night.
It always gets mentioned. Just before it's mentioned how he wasted millions on Reid, Murphy etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff
Aye fantastic. My daughter got bored and didn't want to go and watch the shit he was serving up. Aye, kids loved it, fantastic.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Warnock's first game and he has made 7 changes including the keeper, a bit early for him to make a big impact but this game will be interesting.
ah, well, nonethelessQuote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
Yes. The kids really hated being in the Premier League, didn’t they…….?Quote:
Originally Posted by dembethewarrior
She didn't want to go because the ball wasn't hitting the back of the netQuote:
Originally Posted by dembethewarrior
Kids are like that
Funny how half our fans vanished on relegationQuote:
Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff
It was the quality of the football obviously ....
I wouldn’t worry about Huddersfield, Warnock is past it, Gabbidon told us.
Time for a few corrections....Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Half of the crowd didn't vanish after relegation. We lost a certain percentage of our crowd in line with many other teams who come down from the Prem. Those clubs whose attendances are little affected by relegation are quite rare.
You'd expect crowds to start dropping if promotion doesn't look likely. Call that what you like, but it happens almost across the board. We were never looking like playoff hopefuls but our crowds stayed almost the same under Warnock and Harris on average. Unfortunately we had Covid lockdown but I do wonder what our crowds would have been towards the end of the season when we went on a great run to finish in the playoffs? We can only speculate, but we'd easily have had more than our season average of nearly 23k (which isn't half of 31k).
I certainly wouldn't worry about one result against a shit side. In fact, had Huddersfield not won today, I would have considered them dead and buried.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo
Family Stand had plenty of empty seats after we were relegated. People bought the cheap seasons tickets to reserve seats should we return to the Prem, maybe went to the odd game here or there. In the last few seasons, empty seats have become far more visible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
Returning boss Neil Warnock said he had "tears in his eyes" following the reception he got from Huddersfield Town fans before their comeback victory over Birmingham City.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64606741
Come off it, you're hatred for Warnock and desperation to be right is making you talk nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee
Before our last two games, you said you wouldn't be worried if Cardiff had lost the last two games and that the season wouldn't be over if they did, that would have us bottom of the League with 29 points.
Yet now you are claiming Birmingham are shit, and that Huddersfield season would have been over and they would have been dead and buried if they hadn't won, make your mind up!