It could be worseQuote:
Originally Posted by pipster
It certainly would be if the Tories were running things
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It could be worseQuote:
Originally Posted by pipster
It certainly would be if the Tories were running things
5 percent interest rates nowQuote:
Originally Posted by Doucas
Labours fault
Worse cancer wait times in the UK and a welsh ambulance service that is not fit for purposeQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Pretty sure we are still bottom of PISA education results table - Labour been in power for 26 years - they are responsible for Education policy in Wales - how could it be any worse Sludge ?
Fourth out of Four ?Quote:
Originally Posted by pipster
That's not third world is it ?
Last out of 30 countries .......your arguement may hold some sway
You are doing a very good impression of a raving tory on here
If you think it's bad now that lot would absolutely crucify Wales
You should read this - https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/p...o-put-26918450Quote:
Originally Posted by pipster
and this thread which tears apart how tories would provide extra funding for the NHS in Wales - https://twitter.com/WillHayCardiff/s...99929621528576
Icwales and Will Hayward ... oh dear - have you read some of the commentsQuote:
Originally Posted by Doucas
Yeah strange that isnt comparing us against the education results of fellow kids in the UK rather than comparing somewhere like Afghanistan. Im not really bothered about we stack up against Afghan kids for example - I am about how we stack against kids just over the bridge.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Buy hey ho - if you have your tongue so far up Drakefords backside then so be it. Like a sheep voting red regardless of how poor Welsh Labour are. Drakeford needs more brain dead sheep like your goodself to keep him power - in fact in that respect - his policy is working a treat..
I think if our health and educational outcomes are 4th out of 4 its really not worth debating the matter as if we are up against a third world countryQuote:
Originally Posted by pipster
I think drakeford should go as soon as possible but if the alternative is one of your tory twats then long may he reign
https://youtu.be/749MG6FIi08
These stats similar to ones I've posted on here are damning. I'll await the usual tory apologists.
Got to 30 seconds before the first thing that was untrue was said..Quote:
Originally Posted by Doucas
Look at the guys videos. It's catastrophe click bait. Paul Joseph Watson stuff without the musical interludes
Piss off all you taffy tory traitors
Go and live in Surrey you soppy ponces
Treachery isn't based on who you vote for you angry fascist oddball!Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
I came onto the political section tonight to see if there were comments on the immigration centre for unaccompanied children in Dover. The painting over of the Mickey Mouse mural because it was ‘too welcoming’. I’ve always had contempt for Tories but this is on a new level of evil.
Sludge and others cant seem to understand or get a grip that there maybe other people out there with a different political opinion to their own. So their response is to stamp their feet and shout at the sheer audacity that people may think differently. Chuck in a few insults - and then in a few years try and convince the same people they slagged off to vote the same as they do.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
It is a new low in petty, crass, vindictive posturing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Blue
He has actually 'instructed' government workers to spend public money on making a reception centre more grim and unwelcoming for unaccompanied child refugees. What a perfect illustration of the values and priorities at the top.
Although it might come back to bite Jenrick and his party. Hopefully.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-asylum-centre
Exactly the kind of story left-wingers love to get absolutely furious about to distract them from the bigger pictureQuote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Really? Now and again we come across a small story that illustrates the bigger picture. Like this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
The UK is trying to stop people making an illegal journey across the channel from a safe country that enriches criminal gangs. This could be seen as encouraging it. It's easy to point to stuff like this but what about the kids who's parents are losing their jobs here for example? How might those kids lives be impacted?Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
https://www.southwalesguardian.co.uk...sylum-seekers/
That's why I say it's a nothing story. People can get furious over a mural to stop them thinking about things like that
You and your tory buddy on here will never changeQuote:
Originally Posted by pipster
I don't care what you think
You are persona non grata
James thinks it's nothingQuote:
Originally Posted by Dave Blue
James is a tory voter
I would shoot him if it was legal
It is as far as I am concernedQuote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
You raving nazi
Oh please feck offQuote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
You couldn't give a toss about the kids in this country or the refugees at the mercy of the gangs
You sound like Suella Braverman .......I really care ......Where's the boiling oil !
You defend the Tories at every opportunity
Nauseating bullshit
You utter plankQuote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
I fking well do care about the welfare of kids. You talk a lot of hate filled crap on here Sludge, so wind your neck in. I just don't ignore the far bigger plight to focus on a mural cos it's cosy to do soQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Naff off you tory , Tories only care about themselvesQuote:
Originally Posted by JamesWales
Then throw pennies to the rest
I don't everyone but I hate Tories
That's the way it is
Anyone who defends this sort of shite from Ministers of a supposedly civilised country are truly sick in the head.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
For me it's not so much what is the alternative it's Jesus Christ surely people can't defend and continue to vote for these snakes ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Blue
The gloves have been off for years as far as I am concerned . I am not a raving lefty but it's like the states over here now ......if you don't vote for the Tories you are a woke commie
I don't vote Plaid or Green or Independent but I have , I could and I would if it kept that lot out
They are universally disliked and for a good reason
If we could unite the anti tory vote then labour , liberals , independents could unite and finish them off
Dreadful bunch , pouring dreadful policies on the plebs
But call them scum and you are a neo fascist !
Sludge - "I am not a raving lefty" you are , probably left of Corbyn.
Why would you not consider ever voting for anyone else - you should value your vote more, rather than shove your tongue up some socialist's back passage and roll over each election - you are pathetic in that regard, in fact pathetic in every regard.
Go away you dirty old pervertQuote:
Originally Posted by pipster
If voting liberal democrat occasionally makes me left of corbyn then guilty as charged
You are red until dead - and you know you are, so dont come the I'm a Lib Dem really sunshineQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
You would vote red regardless of how they treated you, and to them - you are just another turkey voting for an early christmas - and you know it
My family have always been anti tory votersQuote:
Originally Posted by pipster
They are vermin like rats and if I found out anyone in my family or group of friends was a tory I would beat it out of them and bury them under the patio
Stephen Barclay Tory Health Secretary is on tv now
What a cnut
How do you vote for snakes like him ?
Have you no shame
I'm surprised the Tories didn't produce paintings of blood spattered corpses or the Grim Reaper himself. Those are the images that make Tories sleep more soundly in relation to foreigners.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
I live in Surrey and my local council representative is labour. Less of these lazy generalisations.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
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Originally Posted by Swiss Peter
Well if you can direct me to the website of Surrey based labour members of Parliament then please do
He said "local council representative"Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
You may be right. But there is an underbelly of radicalism and revolt here in Surrey just waiting for the signal.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Good to hear. I think most sane people are getting fed up with the Tory vermin. If it can happen in the stockbroker belt it can happen anywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swiss Peter
Well, there isn't really a revolutionary faction here that I'm aware of :hehe: But I canvass going house to house to get people on the electoral register, and the Surrey tory/stockbroker thing (whilst of course true across much of the county) makes me laugh in some of the places I go to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
Also, other Surrey things - the only person I've ever met called Tarquin was in Pembrokeshire. There is admittedly a lot of shopping at Waitrose though :hehe:
As for the original question, detest is a strong word. I dislike a lot of Tories, but then I dislike many people right across the political spectrum and public life in general. Detest I would reserve for the likes of Francois, Bridgen, Rees-Mogg and anyone else who called themselves a 'spartan' for throwing the reputation and future prospects of this country down the pan in the name of some kind of small minded willy waving insular view of what the UK should be.
PS I don't mind some Tories. They all voted remain, funnily enough.