Mark Drakeford to resign?

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

I know my audience, don't want to confuse the Drippy lovers :thumbup:

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Does not confuse me but still not funny
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Originally Posted by jeepster

Does not confuse me but still not funny
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Well it has because I wasn't being funny :hehe:

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

Well it has because I wasn't being funny :hehe:

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You try to hard.:thumbup:

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Originally Posted by jeepster

You try to hard.:thumbup:

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Do you mean too?

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Originally Posted by pipster

I wasnt comparing Glennys kinnock to Thatcher closing pits - Bob surely you understood that.

I merely pointed that when Thatcher died - certain people on here wanted to jump on her grave and that when Baroness Kinnock died (also a politician in her own right) it is interesting that no one from a right perspective here did the same.

To the other point - Harold Wilson closed more pits than Thatcher did - yet never gets called out for it.

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Funny, I can’t remember anyone called Pipster posting on here when Thatcher died. You’re not yet another right wing multi are you?

I’m not sure what you’re trying to do, you come on a thread about Drakeford stepping down comparing Thatcher to Glenys Kinnock, then start going on about pits being closed. What’s any of it got to do with Mark Drakeford?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...eteran-go.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...den-death.html

Mark Drakeford quits: How the ex-probation officer and university lecturer went on to become Welsh First Minister after rising from Labour's left-wing - while also battling family difficulties with his rapist son's imprisonment

TFFT - Drakeford has pushed back the Wales economy 5 years plus with his pathetic short sighted useless policies :facepalm:

M4 relief road cancellation being one of many

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Funny, I can’t remember anyone called Pipster posting on here when Thatcher died. You’re not yet another right wing multi are you?

I’m not sure what you’re trying to do, you come on a thread about Drakeford stepping down comparing Thatcher to Glenys Kinnock, then start going on about pits being closed. What’s any of it got to do with Mark Drakeford?

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He's the pits :hehe: - Jeepers now I'm being funny, go on laugh :hehe:

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

He's the pits :hehe: - Jeepers now I'm being funny, go on laugh :hehe:

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You’re being boring, I’ll give you that.

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

He's the pits :hehe: - Jeepers now I'm being funny, go on laugh :hehe:

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You need to try and fill your time with something else, why not try going down The City? You may enjoy football......on the other hand, going down The City...hmmmmm:hehe:

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...r-who-28280981

Has Mark Drakeford been a good First Minister?
Yes
23%
No
77%

For all the people who thought Mark Drakeford was the right man in the pandemic, there were a sizeable number who thought he was too cautious, too slow to give freedom back and who made the wrong call time after time. There was a growing number within his party too who thought he had it wrong. He was too focused on his legacy, not the basics like awful education or health standards, his style, the way he did things, there was growing discontent and anger towards him within his party, and in polls.

Not only had his personal approvals plummeted, but Welsh Labour's too. The popularity of Sir Keir Starmer had grown. An ITV Cymru Wales/Barn Cymru poll last week saw Mark Drakeford's popularity with the Welsh public is at an 18-month low as more than half of respondents (56%) believe he is doing a bad job of being First Minister.

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You are quoting a poll from wales online? Frequented by the biggest group of nutters you could dare put together in one place.

Glad he's gone and saying no more other than sometimes, it's better the devil you know.
Just look at the shithouse America has degenerated into in the past 3 years. :popcorn: :hehe:

It's a shame he's going to be hanging around till Easter as he's very toxic now

Can't he just leave and be done with it ?

I don't have any sympathy for hi though he should have resigned after we came out of lockdown

I hope a relatively quiet type is appointed so the Tories get back in their box and Plaid just wave their arms about

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

Do you mean too?

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Sorry my two,too and to a tad mixed up.
But you are as funny as a bad case of piles.:thumbup:

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Originally Posted by severncity

Rhun's statement on Drakeford's resignation. I'm glad to see him putting the boot in. Drakeford and Labour have failed Wales - badlyAttachment 5957

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Same old story

We want independence shout Plaid

But when it comes down to it people just won't vote for it

If Drakeford was replaced by a decent leader and Labour pulled back on a few clear policy screw ups it would be the end of the show again

A junior partner in a coalition is fair enough but once the idea of a independent Wales comes about the majority of the population turn up their noses

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/w...r-who-28280981

Has Mark Drakeford been a good First Minister?
Yes
23%
No
77%

For all the people who thought Mark Drakeford was the right man in the pandemic, there were a sizeable number who thought he was too cautious, too slow to give freedom back and who made the wrong call time after time. There was a growing number within his party too who thought he had it wrong. He was too focused on his legacy, not the basics like awful education or health standards, his style, the way he did things, there was growing discontent and anger towards him within his party, and in polls.

Not only had his personal approvals plummeted, but Welsh Labour's too. The popularity of Sir Keir Starmer had grown. An ITV Cymru Wales/Barn Cymru poll last week saw Mark Drakeford's popularity with the Welsh public is at an 18-month low as more than half of respondents (56%) believe he is doing a bad job of being First Minister.

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Hmmmm a Poll that a section of posters here won't agree with the outcome, that'll never wash, I can hear calls for another poll right now, with exact options, a simple yes or no just doesnt work these days

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Originally Posted by Doucas

You must be furious at the tories in Westminster then?

But go on, be specific, what policies are you referring to?

Drakeford is a decent person who genuinely cares about average people unlike the current conservatives.

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Drakeford a decent person? You're fkn deluded, ypthe man is a complete asshole. Good riddance to the c unt

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

You’re being boring, I’ll give you that.

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Dont cry :hehe:

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Originally Posted by jeepster

Sorry my two,too and to a tad mixed up.
But you are as funny as a bad case of piles.:thumbup:

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:hehe:

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

Common sense and understanding of what is needed are the best qualities, academics should stick to writing pages of nonsense that no one cares about, not implement policies that are nonsense and messing up the Country.

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So initially you argued that Drakeford wasn't fit for the role as it would be above his understanding as he was "just" a social worker. Now it's been pointed out that he's intellectually very capable and has plenty of political experience it's "common sense" that is needed. Make your mind up.

I'm no fan of Drakeford's, but he's clearly not an idiot and we certainly could have had a far worse FM than him

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

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Have a nice evening :thumbup:

Xmas comes early.

Gone before being embarrassed by the ballot box .

Folk who interact with him will know he does not handle a difference of views other than his own ?

Straight out of the Maxist playback.

Taken Wales back decades.

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Xmas comes early.

Gone before being embarrassed by the ballot box .

Folk who interact with him will know he does not handle a difference of views other than his own ?

Straight out of the Maxist playback.

Taken Wales back decades.

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Maxist Boyce? Uggy uggy uggy!

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Originally Posted by Heathblue

Glad he's gone and saying no more other than sometimes, it's better the devil you know.
Just look at the shithouse America has degenerated into in the past 3 years. :popcorn: :hehe:

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3 years! :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe:

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Originally Posted by jon1959

3 years! :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe:

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I'm no fan of Biden, in fact, i'm no fan of any of the recent American Presidents, far from it. But what's this shit about Biden? Is it the Trump supporters crying because he's not in power anymore? And how come they all know stuff that we don't? And why do they all love Twitter so much?

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Originally Posted by life on mars

Xmas comes early.

Gone before being embarrassed by the ballot box .

Folk who interact with him will know he does not handle a difference of views other than his own ?

Straight out of the Maxist playback.

Taken Wales back decades.

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What on earth are you babbling on about? He announced he'd stand down in this term years ago and easily won the last election

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Originally Posted by City123

What on earth are you babbling on about? He announced he'd stand down in this term years ago and easily won the last election

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Maxist Playback-Sounds like a 'Soul' Covers Band.

Hopefully Plaid can use this to their advantage, they really need to pray on the protest votes as it's a bit of a free swing for traditional Labour voters.

It's near enough impossible they will be able to get a full majority so they would lean on another party like Labour or Lib dems to give them that majority, they would have to play it safe as any if they tried forcing anything the public didn't like they'd never get in again.

I think voting a Welsh party in Wales is a logical choice, the "english" parties haven't served Wales particularly well. Plaid have rightfully stopped pushing independence, they need to get into power then prove why it's needed (which wouldn't be difficult).

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Originally Posted by blue matt

Hmmmm a Poll that a section of posters here won't agree with the outcome, that'll never wash, I can hear calls for another poll right now, with exact options, a simple yes or no just doesnt work these days

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If you're going to jump to conclusions regarding a poll, let's see the whole thing first

https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2023-...public-and-why

Labour have dropped eight points in the voting intentions poll and yet still have a twenty two point lead over any other party. As for Drakeford, there's an explanation as to why he's less popular than he was a year ago, but it's also added that he is still more popular than any other Welsh party leader.

Just trying to add some LoM style balance, I'm no great fan of Drakeford and think it's time Labour had a new person in charge who'll make trying to change the poor Health and Education statistics in Wales a priority.

While the Tories are in power in Westminster, Labour will coast to electoral victories in Wales as much of the vote is effectively anti-Tory.

When Labour get in nationally then I'm sure Labour will still retain power in Wales but people will be more inclined to vote against them. This will be especially likely if Wales carries on getting progressively worse compared to the rest of the UK regions on socio-economic indicators, which they have done while Labour has been in power in Wales.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

If you're going to jump to conclusions regarding a poll, let's see the whole thing first

https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2023-...public-and-why

Labour have dropped eight points in the voting intentions poll and yet still have a twenty two point lead over any other party. As for Drakeford, there's an explanation as to why he's less popular than he was a year ago, but it's also added that he is still more popular than any other Welsh party leader.

Just trying to add some LoM style balance, I'm no great fan of Drakeford and think it's time Labour had a new person in charge who'll make trying to change the poor Health and Education statistics in Wales a priority.

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The figures you've quoted are for Westminster voting intention. The Senedd poll is much closer and Labour would be nowhere near a majority, especially in an expanded SeneddAttachment 5958

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Originally Posted by severncity

The figures you've quoted are for Westminster voting intention. The Senedd poll is much closer and Labour would be nowhere near a majority, especially in an expanded SeneddAttachment 5958

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Well I hope that the first thing any new labour leader does is scrap the idea of an expanded Welsh assembly

That's utter madness

And secondly bin the 20 mph nonsense

All we need now is an update from the club to say that Runnerson has left Cardiff city and returned to Arsenal.
It will be a double win

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Originally Posted by Armitage Shanks

All we need now is an update from the club to say that Runnerson has left Cardiff city and returned to Arsenal.
It will be a double win

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If it was either or, I would keep Runnerson even if Arsenal insisted he play as Stiker, you have to take the biggest wins when you can.

Vaughan Gethin to stand

Rebecca Evans finance minister is backing him which is a shame as I think she would be a good leader

He's OK but got to be better than Drakeford

I would be better than Drakeford

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

If it was either or, I would keep Runnerson even if Arsenal insisted he play as Stiker, you have to take the biggest wins when you can.

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What is a stiker,is it like a centreforward.
Touche my friend.:hehe:

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Originally Posted by jeepster

What is a stiker,is it like a centreforward.
Touche my friend.:hehe:

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:hehe: You didn't have to wait long :thumbup:

I know more about half the english Labour MPs than I do about Vaughn Gethin

There's things I agree with Labour in Wales on, plenty I don't.

Lets see what Vaughn Gethin brings as I think it's pretty done and dusted that he's going to replace Mark Drakeford.

Gethin :facepalm:, another liar