Our fanbase from the City of Cardiff (again)

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15-12-23, 16:03
City123

Re: Our fanbase from the City of Cardiff (again)

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Originally Posted by splott parker

Good point about students, my son went to Liverpool University, didn’t go once in four years (if I recall) to Goodison or Anfield yet made it to many City North West away matches.

I take the point but it's a fair bit harder to get tickets there than here
15-12-23, 16:05
City123

Re: Our fanbase from the City of Cardiff (again)

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Originally Posted by Der Kaiser

The club did have £99 season tickets for students a while back, which I took advantage of. But realistically students don't have much money, asking them to part with whatever cash they do have to watch average second tier football is a bit pie in the sky in my opinion.

Particularly when those with any interest in football will already have teams they support.

Bit of a pointless venture going after students in my opinion, they'd never truly care for the club.

Plenty of students settle in Cardiff afterwards. Cardiff Uni alone has ~35k students, I find it hard to believe none would be interested in the City
15-12-23, 16:39
J R Hartley

Re: Our fanbase from the City of Cardiff (again)

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Originally Posted by City123

Plenty of students settle in Cardiff afterwards. Cardiff Uni alone has ~35k students, I find it hard to believe none would be interested in the City

The CCS being the opposite end of the city to the universities dont really help. My daughter is in Cyncoed campus and is friendly with a couple of football mad lads from Nottingham and Berkshire in her block and they have no desire to travel all the way over to the CCS to catch a live game.
15-12-23, 18:28
horse_face

Re: Our fanbase from the City of Cardiff (again)

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Originally Posted by City123

The club were rather dismissive of the mural if I recall correctly

Yes another one of Dalman’s unsavoury moments claiming the mural represented positive discrimination.

Having had some engagement over the years with the club commercially. It’s operated in the way you imagine with Dalman and Choo having a say in things which normally would be be given creative freedom (Marketing, PR, Outreach)

This isn’t helped by Mark Denham who’s been there for years and is a control freak. Doing everting from press conferences, marketing messaging and even the live comms.

Ultimately we’ve had some great staff at the club but they never last for these reasons. I believe there’s no more than two people who work in the marketing team.
15-12-23, 20:57
NinianOpinion1927

Re: Our fanbase from the City of Cardiff (again)

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

The CCS being the opposite end of the city to the universities dont really help. My daughter is in Cyncoed campus and is friendly with a couple of football mad lads from Nottingham and Berkshire in her block and they have no desire to travel all the way over to the CCS to catch a live game.

Mad excuse not to attend a match
15-12-23, 21:22
SLUDGE FACTORY

Re: Our fanbase from the City of Cardiff (again)

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Originally Posted by horse_face

Yes another one of Dalman’s unsavoury moments claiming the mural represented positive discrimination.

Having had some engagement over the years with the club commercially. It’s operated in the way you imagine with Dalman and Choo having a say in things which normally would be be given creative freedom (Marketing, PR, Outreach)

This isn’t helped by Mark Denham who’s been there for years and is a control freak. Doing everting from press conferences, marketing messaging and even the live comms.

Ultimately we’ve had some great staff at the club but they never last for these reasons. I believe there’s no more than two people who work in the marketing team.

It was one of his team that stated it was not something the club could support

I don't know if that was his opinion or the opinion of the spokesperson

Either way it was bullshit and typical of Cardiff City to suggest a mural depicting a black cardiff woman in a city shirt wasn't a suitable thing for the club to get support

What a bunch of hopeless clowns
15-12-23, 22:45
NYCBlue

Re: Our fanbase from the City of Cardiff (again)

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Originally Posted by horse_face

Good point but even in our first promotion we were getting about 22k average. When we were on the up so to speak.

For a City of over 360k people it's mind blowing.

Bristol is a city of over 460k with an "urban area" of over 700k. Its two teams get about 25k between them.
15-12-23, 23:05
Wash DC Blue

Re: Our fanbase from the City of Cardiff (again)

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Originally Posted by horse_face

Yes another one of Dalman’s unsavoury moments claiming the mural represented positive discrimination.

Having had some engagement over the years with the club commercially. It’s operated in the way you imagine with Dalman and Choo having a say in things which normally would be be given creative freedom (Marketing, PR, Outreach)

This isn’t helped by Mark Denham who’s been there for years and is a control freak. Doing everting from press conferences, marketing messaging and even the live comms.

Ultimately we’ve had some great staff at the club but they never last for these reasons. I believe there’s no more than two people who work in the marketing team.

Mark Denham and Ashley James make me wince so bad with their commentary.
I know that I sound like a broken record, but they spoil my experience so so much.

Just watched the highlights of the game that was posted on the “best goal at Ninian Park” showing the Barnet free kick.
The guy commenting was quite unpolished, but so full of excitement and enthusiasm.
I’d love to hear someone like that rather than the dour, football hipsters that we have who constantly call The City players by their first names, initials or nicknames.

It’s an irrational hatred now for me.
15-12-23, 23:58
horse_face

Re: Our fanbase from the City of Cardiff (again)

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

Bristol is a city of over 460k with an "urban area" of over 700k. Its two teams get about 25k between them.

Bristol City have a higher average than us and that’s with Rovers a few miles away. Public transport in the Bristol area makes TFW look progressive.

I doubt they attract fans as far away as we do from some of the valleys
16-12-23, 03:54
NinianOpinion1927

Re: Our fanbase from the City of Cardiff (again)

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Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue

Mark Denham and Ashley James make me wince so bad with their commentary.
I know that I sound like a broken record, but they spoil my experience so so much.

Just watched the highlights of the game that was posted on the “best goal at Ninian Park” showing the Barnet free kick.
The guy commenting was quite unpolished, but so full of excitement and enthusiasm.
I’d love to hear someone like that rather than the dour, football hipsters that we have who constantly call The City players by their first names, initials or nicknames.

It’s an irrational hatred now for me.

They are football hipsters. You nailed it
16-12-23, 03:55
NinianOpinion1927

Re: Our fanbase from the City of Cardiff (again)

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

It was one of his team that stated it was not something the club could support

I don't know if that was his opinion or the opinion of the spokesperson

Either way it was bullshit and typical of Cardiff City to suggest a mural depicting a black cardiff woman in a city shirt wasn't a suitable thing for the club to get support

What a bunch of hopeless clowns

I don't know why it bothers you SO MUCH LOL
16-12-23, 04:27
NYCBlue

Re: Our fanbase from the City of Cardiff (again)

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Originally Posted by horse_face

Bristol City have a higher average than us and that’s with Rovers a few miles away. Public transport in the Bristol area makes TFW look progressive.

I doubt they attract fans as far away as we do from some of the valleys

So not mind blowing then? Because to me it seems like exactly the same thing. Bristol City's attendance average was about 6% higher than ours last season
16-12-23, 07:37
olderblue

Re: Our fanbase from the City of Cardiff (again)

Biggest surprise for me reading this thread is the news that we have a marketing department

**** knows what they do???
Fans like me are always going to be going and my sons are the same, what the club should be doing is employing a real marketing strategy to attract the next generation of fans so that it becomes part of their DNA
In reality it’s easy to understand why some fans stayed in the warm, watching on the red button on Wednesday night
Saturday was hard to watch, but against Brum we were awful and there’s no point trying to put lipstick on a pig, it’s still a pig!
As it stands I think we have a decent manager, but he’s inherited a squad of shite players or players who are half arsed.
I’m saying he won’t make mistakes in selection and tactics, but you can only deal with the hand you have.
He needs two transfer windows to get the players he wants in and get rid of the dross.

A successful winning team will bring the crowds back
Hopefully if we ever get promoted again into the Premier League, they’ll be a plan in place to actually stay there and build the support on
16-12-23, 09:25
A Quiet Monkfish

Re: Our fanbase from the City of Cardiff (again)

Best marketing department is the patch of grass inside the stadium..
16-12-23, 09:28
Eric the Half a Bee

Re: Our fanbase from the City of Cardiff (again)

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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish

Best marketing department is the patch of grass inside the stadium..

Absolutely. Do well and people will want to go to games.
16-12-23, 09:29
Eric the Half a Bee

Re: Our fanbase from the City of Cardiff (again)

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Originally Posted by horse_face

Public transport in the Bristol area makes TFW look progressive.

There can't be many worse places in the UK for public transport than Bristol.
16-12-23, 09:43
Bruce Parry

Re: Our fanbase from the City of Cardiff (again)

After the move from Ninian Park, we were growing season on season. The club killed all momentum with the rebrand. There’s still plenty of former season ticket holders who either don’t go down or pick and choose games.

Considering what’s happened over the last decade, is our average even that bad?
16-12-23, 10:29
goats

Re: Our fanbase from the City of Cardiff (again)

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Originally Posted by Bruce Parry

After the move from Ninian Park, we were growing season on season. The club killed all momentum with the rebrand. There’s still plenty of former season ticket holders who either don’t go down or pick and choose games.

Considering what’s happened over the last decade, is our average even that bad?

It’s a miracle we get nr 20,000 and almost 30,000 for the jacks after the last decade, when I started going we had 6000 for games v swansea and I thought that was good, over 10,000 was out there….Cardiff is quite a cool city these days, maybe ccfc and football in general just isn’t cool for the young dudes of the this world. It wasn’t when I was growing up either if I’m honest, just gangs of hooligans from various suburbs and the valley towns who would regularly have issues with each other….
16-12-23, 10:46
Doucas

Re: Our fanbase from the City of Cardiff (again)

We've had almost a decade of negative to extremely negative football. Not even the Royal families PR squad could sell that.
16-12-23, 11:50
Mr Soul '68

Re: Our fanbase from the City of Cardiff (again)

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Originally Posted by Canton Kev

Being a capital city means nothing.

Manchester United are the best supported team in England by about 15k week in week out.

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Most of United's home fans are not from the greater Manchester area though. A huge proportion of them come from South Wales, Devon & Dorset, London & the Home Counties, Ireland and even abroad. I have a mate who is Utd 'plastic', (a Mansfield lad) who will admit this.
16-12-23, 12:24
Taunton Blue Genie

Re: Our fanbase from the City of Cardiff (again)

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

There can't be many worse places in the UK for public transport than Bristol.

Parking at Ashton Gate is a nightmare, in my experience.
Ashton Gate is much further from Temple Meads than CCS is is from Cardiff Central.
AG is further from Bristol city centre than CC is is from 'town'.
AG is also out on a limb, being on the western periphery of the city - and where there is no super-duper ring road.
16-12-23, 12:46
TWGL1

Re: Our fanbase from the City of Cardiff (again)

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

So not mind blowing then? Because to me it seems like exactly the same thing. Bristol City's attendance average was about 6% higher than ours last season

Bristol City’s season tickets prices for children included a free home shirt, ( and were better value) plus the away attendances at Ashton Gate were higher that when we got. That’s the 6% accounted for
16-12-23, 13:08
goats

Re: Our fanbase from the City of Cardiff (again)

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

Bristol City’s season tickets prices for children included a free home shirt, ( and were better value) plus the away attendances at Ashton Gate were higher that when we got. That’s the 6% accounted for

They were doing ok for them last season too, new stand opened to I think. As for the traffic there, it’s far worse than here when I lived there 20 yrs ago. You’d be very lucky to get to 20 mph going across town
16-12-23, 14:35
pipster

Re: Our fanbase from the City of Cardiff (again)

A football club and what they produce (entertaining football) is a measurable thing. If watching the city was entertaining, with great performances, attacking football, challenging matches etc then yes it would be packed - like it was in the Malky / Warnock promotion season and the premier league seasons.
But in reality watching the city play - has not been in the least bit entertaining over the last decade and that is reflected in the attendances. In fact Im surprised it has been as high as it has been - considering what has been on offer to watch.
16-12-23, 15:09
City123

Re: Our fanbase from the City of Cardiff (again)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue

Mark Denham and Ashley James make me wince so bad with their commentary.
I know that I sound like a broken record, but they spoil my experience so so much.

Just watched the highlights of the game that was posted on the “best goal at Ninian Park” showing the Barnet free kick.
The guy commenting was quite unpolished, but so full of excitement and enthusiasm.
I’d love to hear someone like that rather than the dour, football hipsters that we have who constantly call The City players by their first names, initials or nicknames.

It’s an irrational hatred now for me.

That is quite annoying
16-12-23, 15:11
City123

Re: Our fanbase from the City of Cardiff (again)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Parry

After the move from Ninian Park, we were growing season on season. The club killed all momentum with the rebrand. There’s still plenty of former season ticket holders who either don’t go down or pick and choose games.

Considering what’s happened over the last decade, is our average even that bad?

Agreed
16-12-23, 15:13
City123

Re: Our fanbase from the City of Cardiff (again)

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Originally Posted by pipster

A football club and what they produce (entertaining football) is a measurable thing. If watching the city was entertaining, with great performances, attacking football, challenging matches etc then yes it would be packed - like it was in the Malky / Warnock promotion season and the premier league seasons.
But in reality watching the city play - has not been in the least bit entertaining over the last decade and that is reflected in the attendances. In fact Im surprised it has been as high as it has been - considering what has been on offer to watch.

CCS was far from packed in the Warnock promotion season, we weren't even getting 20k regularly until March
16-12-23, 17:15
goats

Re: Our fanbase from the City of Cardiff (again)

Tickets will be flying out for the next home match after the last few weeks, not to mention a fine Xmas present watching Leicester put five past us.
26-12-23, 22:33
MOZZER2

Re: Our fanbase from the City of Cardiff (again)

on a positive when we talk about attendances

todays see's the 7'th 20k plus attendance so far this season

increasing year on year over the last few seasons

think we will hit it again against Leicester
26-12-23, 22:34
Eric the Half a Bee

Re: Our fanbase from the City of Cardiff (again)

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Originally Posted by MOZZER2

on a positive when we talk about attendances

todays see's the 7'th 20k plus attendance so far this season

increasing year on year over the last few seasons

think we will hit it again against Leicester

Can't complain about our crowds this season, given the previous few seasons and some of the rubbish we've had this season.
27-12-23, 12:29
Dorcus

Re: Our fanbase from the City of Cardiff (again)

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Originally Posted by City123

That is quite annoying

I know it shouldn't wind me up, but it does. I'm fed up of them referring to players as Perry, JC, Kion or Dimi. So much so I usually watch the match with the sound off.

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