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11-01-24, 10:52
Rjk

Re: Lack of rumours

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Originally Posted by Trigger

Things rarely happen quickly in January. Lot of posturing and hanging around for other deals to set the dominoes off.

May as well make it a week or fortnight long window and hurry everyone along.

I thought all transfers were agreed weeks in advance, and they only delay them until deadline day for the drama?
11-01-24, 10:56
Nobody's Rep

Re: Lack of rumours

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

Agreed very difficult for Managers and clubs as they can plan as much as they like, if the other club fails to get their player, then the whole chain breaks down, a bit like a house property chain.

We won't get every player we want and it won't all be Erol or Dalman's fault.

Following the success pf Goutas and Siopis, I think other clubs are starting to use Erol as a Turkish/Greek scout and seeing who he is after and then weighing up whether to jump in and try and steal the player, probably agents are doing the same.

Looking at the BBC site there has been limited activity across all divisions and as someone said in an earlier post it is sometimes a domino effect when we are chasing a player the parent club needs to sort out replacements etc and I suspect agents make it messy as well
11-01-24, 11:12
J R Hartley

Re: Lack of rumours

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Originally Posted by Rjk

I thought all transfers were agreed weeks in advance, and they only delay them until deadline day for the drama?

:hehe: :hehe:
11-01-24, 11:36
Undercoverinwurzelland

Re: Lack of rumours

Ugbo has gone
https://twitter.com/CardiffCityFC/st...07770143096888
11-01-24, 11:37
Rjk

Re: Lack of rumours

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Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland

Ugbo has gone
https://twitter.com/CardiffCityFC/st...07770143096888

weirdly I can see him doing well somewhere
11-01-24, 11:38
Undercoverinwurzelland

Re: Lack of rumours

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Originally Posted by Rjk

weirdly I can see him doing well somewhere

Showed he can finish, just didn't do much else.
11-01-24, 11:43
goats

Re: Lack of rumours

Was hoping we’d get Moore in before Leeds, going to be a struggle getting our usual 3 points without a decent striker…..thoughts brooks was nailed on too according to some….:shrug:
11-01-24, 11:47
North Cardiff Blue

Re: Lack of rumours

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Originally Posted by Rjk

weirdly I can see him doing well somewhere

So can I, there is a player there somewhere, might be difficult there though.
11-01-24, 11:48
Undercoverinwurzelland

Re: Lack of rumours

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Originally Posted by goats

Was hoping we’d get Moore in before Leeds, going to be a struggle getting our usual 3 points without a decent striker…..thoughts brooks was nailed on too according to some….:shrug:

Brooks looks like he's off to Southampton or Leeds now (hopefully not until after the weekend if Leeds).
11-01-24, 12:27
Moodybluebird

Re: Lack of rumours

I doubt if Ugbo would have been allowed to leave if the club weren't confident of signing a replacement. Therefore it would come as a surprise if a forward wasn't incoming pretty soon.

The fact we gave accrued a decent haul of points so far has taken the pressure off the club somewhat, notwithstanding an unlikely push for a play-off place.
11-01-24, 17:34
goats

Re: Lack of rumours

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Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland

Brooks looks like he's off to Southampton or Leeds now (hopefully not until after the weekend if Leeds).

Are they trying to get the whole welsh team or something?
11-01-24, 17:56
Rjk

Re: Lack of rumours

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Originally Posted by goats

Are they trying to get the whole welsh team or something?

that doesn't sound like a recipe for success
11-01-24, 17:59
City123

Re: Lack of rumours

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Originally Posted by Rjk

that doesn't sound like a recipe for success

Would be a very good Chqmpionship side
11-01-24, 18:03
the other bob wilson

Re: Lack of rumours

Two signings close says Bulut.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...rdiff-28426914
11-01-24, 18:33
fugsyphil

Re: Lack of rumours

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Originally Posted by Rjk

that doesn't sound like a recipe for success

Without Page screwing them over with his tactical nous I think they'd do pretty good
11-01-24, 18:56
Wash DC Blue

Re: Lack of rumours

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Originally Posted by splott parker

That’s what I was thinking, didn’t click that it’s the 11th January already, the month is flying by already.

Try doing dry January.
It’s going slow as fook for me.
11-01-24, 19:23
blue matt

Re: Lack of rumours

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Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue

Try doing dry January.
It’s going slow as fook for me.

I was doing it, not that I drink often, I went to watch Bath on Tuesday night, spotted the bar was open, im stood on the terrace having a pint ( I love that feeling ) a nice cold pint when its 0 C :hehe:, my daughter says " no dry January then " , Oh Damm, I forgot
11-01-24, 19:52
Wash DC Blue

Re: Lack of rumours

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Originally Posted by blue matt

I was doing it, not that I drink often, I went to watch Bath on Tuesday night, spotted the bar was open, im stood on the terrace having a pint ( I love that feeling ) a nice cold pint when its 0 C :hehe:, my daughter says " no dry January then " , Oh Damm, I forgot

I’ve still been going out.
Just drinking Guinness 0, which tastes just like the real thing.
It’s lovely.
11-01-24, 19:59
TWGL1

Re: Lack of rumours

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Originally Posted by Rjk

I thought all transfers were agreed weeks in advance, and they only delay them until deadline day for the drama?

Some are , some aren’t , and out of interest do you have a personal friend who’s son is a professional footballer- thought not.

Ultimately stick to your specialised subject clIMate change :hehe:
11-01-24, 20:26
blue matt

Re: Lack of rumours

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Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue

I’ve still been going out.
Just drinking Guinness 0, which tastes just like the real thing.
It’s lovely.

:xmasthumbup:
11-01-24, 21:39
goats

Re: Lack of rumours

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Originally Posted by Wash DC Blue

I’ve still been going out.
Just drinking Guinness 0, which tastes just like the real thing.
It’s lovely.

It is a decent drink….dry January, I always do it but I hardly drink so wondering if it’s worth it, the crappest month of the year, why make it any worse?
11-01-24, 22:06
Rjk

Re: Lack of rumours

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

Some are , some aren’t , and out of interest do you have a personal friend who’s son is a professional footballer- thought not.

Ultimately stick to your specialised subject clIMate change :hehe:

I have a personal friend who is a football agent
11-01-24, 22:34
Pedro de la Rosa

Re: Lack of rumours

Linked with Tsunoda from Japan. Can't wait for the person to say they've seen him loads and he's a great player.

Apparently he is off to Belgium first.
11-01-24, 22:44
City123

Re: Lack of rumours

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

Linked with Tsunoda from Japan. Can't wait for the person to say they've seen him loads and he's a great player.

Apparently he is off to Belgium first.

I've seen him loads and he's a great player

Apparently he is off to Belgium first
11-01-24, 23:22
RichardM

Re: Lack of rumours

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Originally Posted by Rjk

I have a personal friend who is a football agent

Do you have friends who aren't personal?
11-01-24, 23:39
Rjk

Re: Lack of rumours

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Originally Posted by City123

I've seen him loads and he's a great player

Apparently he is off to Belgium first

interesting one, decent potential upsides to this move, player seems to be growing in reputation and a much better age to be bringing in than most of the players we are linked with

at first glance looks like a replacement for Panzo - left sided CM who can also cover at left back
but that wouldn't explain the loaning out to Kortrijk, and why wouldn't they just sign him directly?
11-01-24, 23:45
Rjk

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https://youtu.be/iB3Nvw-cWDM?si=VIkCEmp8lV2GTp_c

probably to early for the obligatory grainy YouTube footage set to the worst music you've ever heard, but I'm posting it anyway in the hopes that it kick-starts the transfer window
12-01-24, 00:54
NYCBlue

Re: Lack of rumours

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Originally Posted by Rjk

https://youtu.be/iB3Nvw-cWDM?si=VIkCEmp8lV2GTp_c

probably to early for the obligatory grainy YouTube footage set to the worst music you've ever heard, but I'm posting it anyway in the hopes that it kick-starts the transfer window

Strange highlight video. I was beginning to wonder if he could do anything besides pass.
12-01-24, 10:04
Rjk

Re: Lack of rumours

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Originally Posted by NYCBlue

Strange highlight video. I was beginning to wonder if he could do anything besides pass.

weirdly that is considered a desirable skill amongst some team's supporters, I don't think it'll catch on here though
12-01-24, 10:07
Eric the Half a Bee

Re: Lack of rumours

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Originally Posted by Rjk

weirdly that is considered a desirable skill amongst some team's supporters, I don't think it'll catch on here though

Was going to say the same thing. Whenever the question is asked of what sort of player do we need, it's generally a big target man, no-nonsense defender or midfield hard man. Players who can pass the ball well and have sound technique are rarely ever considered.
12-01-24, 10:08
Der Kaiser

Re: Lack of rumours

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Originally Posted by Rjk

interesting one, decent potential upsides to this move, player seems to be growing in reputation and a much better age to be bringing in than most of the players we are linked with

at first glance looks like a replacement for Panzo - left sided CM who can also cover at left back
but that wouldn't explain the loaning out to Kortrijk, and why wouldn't they just sign him directly?

I’ve read a few on social media suggest that the instant loan could be due to the difficulty in obtaining a work permit so quickly for the UK, and that Brighton did similar with Mitoma. Haven’t checked either, but in principle the work permit matter could make sense.
12-01-24, 10:18
Rjk

Re: Lack of rumours

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Originally Posted by Der Kaiser

I’ve read a few on social media suggest that the instant loan could be due to the difficulty in obtaining a work permit so quickly for the UK, and that Brighton did similar with Mitoma. Haven’t checked either, but in principle the work permit matter could make sense.

thats true - is it easier to obtain in Belgium?

If that was the case, then it is even more interesting, as it raises questions about who would be driving this transfer, as you wou'dn't have thought Bulut would be pushing for a transfer that he might not even get to use
12-01-24, 10:31
Undercoverinwurzelland

Re: Lack of rumours

Linked today with Luton attacking midfielder/striker John McAtee

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/su...ton-town-star/
12-01-24, 10:48
Rjk

Re: Lack of rumours

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Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland

Linked today with Luton attacking midfielder/striker John McAtee

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/su...ton-town-star/

Hes 24 and been at 10 different clubs already by the look of it. Having a good season in league one though
12-01-24, 12:32
Des Parrot

Re: Lack of rumours

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Originally Posted by Rjk

Hes 24 and been at 10 different clubs already by the look of it. Having a good season in league one though

Yes but …. Is this really the level we’re looking at? Had it been his brother, that’s a different matter.
12-01-24, 14:03
Rjk

Re: Lack of rumours

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Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa

Linked with Tsunoda from Japan. Can't wait for the person to say they've seen him loads and he's a great player.

Apparently he is off to Belgium first.

According to an online checker it seems that he probably wouldn't get a work permit for here.
12-01-24, 14:13
J R Hartley

Re: Lack of rumours

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Originally Posted by Rjk

Hes 24 and been at 10 different clubs already by the look of it. Having a good season in league one though

Think youre being a little unfair, half of those clubs were when he was 18/19 going out on loan. Id much rather someone go out on loan playing mans football than playing academy football. We know only too well from our own acadamy weve had many prospects who played meaningless academy football for far too long instead of going out on meaningful loans and have just drifted out of the game.
12-01-24, 14:52
Tuerto

Re: Lack of rumours

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Think youre being a little unfair, half of those clubs were when he was 18/19 going out on loan. Id much rather someone go out on loan playing mans football than playing academy football. We know only too well from our own acadamy weve had many prospects who played meaningless academy football for far too long instead of going out on meaningful loans and have just drifted out of the game.

Agree, and u23 football. Whenever I have watched it it looks like an exercise in showing how an individual has been coached to death, a bit like those shit courses you have to go on with work that are carried out in safe and forgiving environments without the obvious Panic factor of a real life situation. Maybe that's harsh, but it's noticeable when young players make the step up.

Thing is, and without sounding like an old Twat ( which I sort of am) there doesn't seem to be the urgency with young players coming through at the club, and I don't think it's their fault, it's got to be the way they're coached and nurtured. Look at the players we have produced pre academy. Gunter, Lesley, Earnshaw, Ginge, Ramsey, Mathews etc They all had their faults, but they all had that character to succeed, take control of situations, prepared to make mistakes. That type of attitude seems to have gone with this ultra level of coaching. Might be wrong as it's only anecdotal, although I'm only speaking about our club.
12-01-24, 15:01
Rjk

Re: Lack of rumours

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

Agree, and u23 football. Whenever I have watched it it looks like an exercise in showing how an individual has been coached to death, a bit like those shit courses you have to go on with work that are carried out in safe and forgiving environments without the obvious Panic factor of a real life situation. Maybe that's harsh, but it's noticeable when young players make the step up.

Thing is, and without sounding like an old Twat ( which I sort of am) there doesn't seem to be the urgency with young players coming through at the club, and I don't think it's their fault, it's got to be the way they're coached and nurtured. Look at the players we have produced pre academy. Gunter, Lesley, Earnshaw, Ginge, Ramsey, Mathews etc They all had their faults, but they all had that character to succeed, take control of situations, prepared to make mistakes. That type of attitude seems to have gone with this ultra level of coaching. Might be wrong as it's only anecdotal, although I'm only speaking about our club.

using our club as an example is not ideal, we must have one of, if not the worst track records in bringing players through to professional football
12-01-24, 15:19
J R Hartley

Re: Lack of rumours

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Originally Posted by Tuerto

Agree, and u23 football. Whenever I have watched it it looks like an exercise in showing how an individual has been coached to death, a bit like those shit courses you have to go on with work that are carried out in safe and forgiving environments without the obvious Panic factor of a real life situation. Maybe that's harsh, but it's noticeable when young players make the step up.

Thing is, and without sounding like an old Twat ( which I sort of am) there doesn't seem to be the urgency with young players coming through at the club, and I don't think it's their fault, it's got to be the way they're coached and nurtured. Look at the players we have produced pre academy. Gunter, Lesley, Earnshaw, Ginge, Ramsey, Mathews etc They all had their faults, but they all had that character to succeed, take control of situations, prepared to make mistakes. That type of attitude seems to have gone with this ultra level of coaching. Might be wrong as it's only anecdotal, although I'm only speaking about our club.

These kids are wrapped in a bubble from the age of 7 years old sometimes younger, and theyve not got the fight or desire that generations before had. Add that to the fact there is less aggression in the game and, for me anyway, weve lost something from our game.

Look at Sam Bowen for example. Dropping down to Newport at 21 years old he wasnt prepared for the physicality of league two. Its only now hes playing for Wealdstone, who like to get the ball down and play, hes finally showing what he can do in the mens game but hes 23 this month. Boys like that left to stagnate in academys its no good long term.

Sion Spence another. He was flying as a teenager, one of the best players for his age with Neco Williams with Wales under 21s. I think hes playing 6th or 7th tier now.

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