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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

120 quid per month on medium usage in a 2 bed house

That's with EON

Some say they are quite low and some are far more expensive

It's an absolute crap show

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Aye it's expensive, but that tracker looks cheaper to me when my deal finally ends.

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

Aye it's expensive, but that tracker looks cheaper to me when my deal finally ends.

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I am definitely leaving eon for octopus their administrative side is shabby

They are absolutely clueless

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

I am definitely leaving eon for octopus their administrative side is shabby

They are absolutely clueless

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I started a switch to octopus from edf.octopus wanted one month in advance.That would have meant paying edf what I owed them ,then within days paying octopus one month in advance.
I cancelled and stayed with EDF..Most offers these days require a smart meter.
I read my meters every month,send the readings to edf,then pay what I owe by direct debit.I wish I was paying 120 quid per month on medium usage in a 2 bed house .I've got a end terrace old house with an extension.It's ****ing freezing..Plus son works from home although he coughs up his share.

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Originally Posted by dandywarhol

I started a switch to octopus from edf.octopus wanted one month in advance.That would have meant paying edf what I owed them ,then within days paying octopus one month in advance.
I cancelled and stayed with EDF..Most offers these days require a smart meter.
I read my meters every month,send the readings to edf,then pay what I owe by direct debit.I wish I was paying 120 quid per month on medium usage in a 2 bed house .I've got a end terrace old house with an extension.It's ****ing freezing..Plus son works from home although he coughs up his share.

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I take it you pay a fair bit more then

Why don't you want a smart meter ?

When I change from EON I will still be paying on energy used it's just I won't have to send in readings

Once a month , card payment , exact usage

None of this direct debit nonsense

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

I take it you pay a fair bit more then

Why don't you want a smart meter ?

When I change from EON I will still be paying on energy used it's just I won't have to send in readings

Once a month , card payment , exact usage

None of this direct debit nonsense

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ask octopus for a variable pay in full direct debit its cheaper than a card payment :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by poc

ask octopus for a variable pay in full direct debit its cheaper than a card payment :thumbup:

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Is that to pay the actual amount used , monthly ?

Because eon wanted me to set up a direct debit and their estimate was based on the most expensive winter payment so I told em no chance

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Is that to pay the actual amount used , monthly ?

Because eon wanted me to set up a direct debit and their estimate was based on the most expensive winter payment so I told em no chance

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The direct debit is divided by 12 based on anticipated annual consumption

I asked a friend who works for EDF about switching to Octopus and she explained that their staff are not that savvy regarding the accounting side of it even though their Kraken system has been adopted by both e.on and EDF.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Is that to pay the actual amount used , monthly ?

Because eon wanted me to set up a direct debit and their estimate was based on the most expensive winter payment so I told em no chance

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yes ,you get a monthly bill approx 2 weeks later they take what you owe /used, all done for you :thumbup: if you want to you can send in the reading from your ihd i think its about 8% cheaper than you paying it by card

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Originally Posted by Dave Blue

The direct debit is divided by 12 based on anticipated annual consumption

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The problem is that with 6 months of the year needing more heating and light a reasonable usage is bumped up

The estimate I was given was 12 x the 120 I use in the winter

So it was taking the piss and several hundred over my actual usage which in the mild months of November and February was very close to spring and summer amounts

I wasn't having that dave

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

I asked a friend who works for EDF about switching to Octopus and she explained that their staff are not that savvy regarding the accounting side of it even though their Kraken system has been adopted by both e.on and EDF.

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Kraken ?

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Kraken ?

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Indeed, the accounting system. Named by the Octopus people, no doubt.

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

Indeed, the accounting system. Named by the Octopus people, no doubt.

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Thought it was a town in Poland that fell to the nazis

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Originally Posted by poc

yes ,you get a monthly bill approx 2 weeks later they take what you owe /used, all done for you :thumbup: if you want to you can send in the reading from your ihd i think its about 8% cheaper than you paying it by card

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mine as an example is billed 18//19th of the month and the the direct debit for the full amount you owe/ used is taken 4/5th of the next month

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

Indeed, the accounting system. Named by the Octopus people, no doubt.

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Thought it was a town in Poland that fell to the nazis

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Originally Posted by poc

mine as an example is billed 18//19th of the month and the the direct debit for the full amount you owe/ used is taken 4/5th of the next month

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I would find that tedious

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Thought it was a town in Poland that fell to the nazis

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Are you going to Krakow again this evening?

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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie

Are you going to Krakow again this evening?

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Krackerjack

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Originally Posted by poc

ask octopus for a variable pay in full direct debit its cheaper than a card payment :thumbup:

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This is what I do with edf.Just send in the readings.
I don't want a smart meter as I'm hoping to move.The new owners can make the decision whether they want a smart meter or not.

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Originally Posted by dandywarhol

This is what I do with edf.Just send in the readings.
I don't want a smart meter as I'm hoping to move.The new owners can make the decision whether they want a smart meter or not.

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I would assume that eventually you will have no choice in the matter in the same way phonelines are being unplugged

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

The problem is that with 6 months of the year needing more heating and light a reasonable usage is bumped up

The estimate I was given was 12 x the 120 I use in the winter

So it was taking the piss and several hundred over my actual usage which in the mild months of November and February was very close to spring and summer amounts

I wasn't having that dave

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If you are paying too much and build up a credit you can reduce the DD at next review, it's as broad as it's long, as long as it's cheaper in the end.

Bump….

So my flexible octopus is coming in roughly the same as their loyal fixed, and with prices set to fall in July again I might just stay on my flexible tariff for now. You can guarantee it will rise next October so I might wait until the summer to fix a deal to get through next winter. I’m sure Putin will do something to make it a bit more expensive too……

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Originally Posted by goats

So my flexible octopus is coming in roughly the same as their loyal fixed, and with prices set to fall in July again I might just stay on my flexible tariff for now. You can guarantee it will rise next October so I might wait until the summer to fix a deal to get through next winter. I’m sure Putin will do something to make it a bit more expensive too……

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I switched to octopus, same sort of price as eon but easy to deal with

Eon were incompetent

This site is known to be one of the most accurate energy price forecasters
https://www.cornwall-insight.com/pre...asts-for-2024/

According to Martin Lewis the best fix is currently the EDF 1 year version. I’ve just switched to it from the standard variable tariff from the same provider.

Another vote for Octopus from me. I was with Bulb & when they went bump Octopus took over the account. Their website is very good as is their communication.

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

I use Octopus. Haven't got a smart meter so just submit my readings online each month. A day or so later they email me my bill. Easy enough to understand in that I can see how much each month how much of a rip off the Standing charges are.

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The standing charges are ridiculous (I’m with Octopus)….over 60p per DAY !…. WTF.

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Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo

What’s the reason? Like I said I have a new build so we didn’t have a choice but I find them great.

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Lots of nonsense spouted about smart meters, usually by people who haven’t got a clue about them! They are very good at providing accurate bills, and (contrary to what some tin hatters think), do not impact in any way on your privacy.

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Originally Posted by G rangetown Blue

Lots of nonsense spouted about smart meters, usually by people who haven’t got a clue about them! They are very good at providing accurate bills, and (contrary to what some tin hatters think), do not impact in any way on your privacy.

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Oh dear.

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Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo

I’m with Octopus and find them amazing, I would happily pay a little more rather than change. The fact you can actually email them and they respond rather than calling someone like BT and being on hold for an hour before actually getting to speak to someone.

The Bills seem very simple and it shows the DD going out to compare. I do have a smart meter but I know you can submit meter readings very easily on the app.

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I'm with Octopus and I agree they are generally very good.
The only negative from my perspective was their energy predictor which they were pushing last Autumn. It doesn’t take in individual circumstances and if I had followed their ‘recommendation’ to increase my DD to the levels they suggested then I would have overpaid by £100’s.
I would have eventually got the money back I don’t believe in lending energy companies large amounts of money at 0% interest!

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Originally Posted by G rangetown Blue

Lots of nonsense spouted about smart meters, usually by people who haven’t got a clue about them! They are very good at providing accurate bills, and (contrary to what some tin hatters think), do not impact in any way on your privacy.

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I have had a smart meter for about 4 years now. I have never had a problem with them and as you said they provide accurate billing and I have definately saved a lot of money over that time

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Originally Posted by Alan Lung

Oh dear.

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Oh dear what ? …..You know something none of us know?

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Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo

https://share.octopus.energy/loved-coral-950

I think you can use the link here, they should do it all for you. It says if anyone uses the link we share £100. Don’t feel you need to tho I was just finding a link and it came up. There website should point you in the right direction.

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I'm using your link, it says it will give you £50 :thumbup:

Thanks it's useful :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

I'm using your link, it says it will give you £50 :thumbup:

Thanks it's useful :thumbup:

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I just had an email and thought who is that haha.

Thanks for using the link :)

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Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo

I just had an email and thought who is that haha.

Thanks for using the link :)

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Nice one, I signed up flexible for now, are they still doing that tracker account, I can switch to that at a later date if they still do.

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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue

Nice one, I signed up flexible for now, are they still doing that tracker account, I can switch to that at a later date if they still do.

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I’m not sure, I’m still on the flexible as well.

I emailed Octopus, and now they’ve put me on a “loyal customer tariff” ….£120 / month less ! **I chose the variable opinion.

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Originally Posted by G rangetown Blue

I emailed Octopus, and now they’ve put me on a “loyal customer tariff” ….£120 / month less ! **I chose the variable opinion.

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I'm going to switch from Variable to Octopus Tracker April 2024 v1 the unit costs are much cheaper and Martin Lewis has done extensive research says don't get any fixed rate deals.

Brittish Gas have just rung me to retain and offered their best fixed rate similar to Octopus and £175 credit to stop my switch, but I think I'll still proceed and switch to the Tracker.

Electricity
Unit rate:
16.32 p/kWh
Standing charge:
61.19 p/day
Gas
Unit rate:
4.32 p/kWh
Standing charge:
27.47 p/day
Description
Tracker gives you the most transparent energy pricing in the UK. Every day, we update the price of your energy based on an independently published wholesale market price. The unit rate is capped at 100p/kWh for electricity and 30p/kWh for gas (including VAT).

https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/ut...ntly-worth-it/


The Octopus Tracker tariff – prices change daily based on wholesale rates

It's available to existing Octopus customers (though others can just switch first to its standard tariff, then to this) as a dual-fuel, electricity-only or gas-only tariff.

Rates change daily depending on wholesale costs (and where you live), which makes it more of a gamble, but over recent months it would've very substantially undercut the Price Cap.

If it does start to get expensive, you can just switch back to its price-capped standard tariff (though it may take two weeks and you can't go back to the Tracker for nine months). Plus you'll need to get a smart meter if you don't already have one.

While rates are cheaper right now, they can spike suddenly if wholesale costs rise
How much one week's energy would cost
Octopus has recently changed how it calculates unit rates for this tariff

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Originally Posted by bluesp

According to Martin Lewis the best fix is currently the EDF 1 year version. I’ve just switched to it from the standard variable tariff from the same provider.

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Same here.