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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
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Originally Posted by
Citizen's Nephew
*WARNING* Victim blaming!
I know, shame on me.
In realms where dreams in vibrant hues are spun,
Two realms diverge beneath the blazing sun.
Entertainment, beguiling, tempts the heart,
With fleeting joys, it seeks to play its part.
Yet in this dance, a whisper may be heard,
Of deeper worth, of values truly stirred.
For quality, a steadfast beacon bright,
Illuminates the path with guiding light.
Entertainment, a fleeting, transient spark,
Brings laughter, tears, in moments stark.
But quality, with roots that run so deep,
Endures, a treasure that we vow to keep.
In laughter's echo, in applause that dies,
Quality emerges, steadfast, wise.
For in the echo of a well-told tale,
Lies substance that will never pale.
So let us cherish both, in their own right,
For each brings richness to our sight.
Entertainment, with its lively play,
And quality, with truths that never sway
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
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OurManFlint II
I know, shame on me.
In realms where dreams in vibrant hues are spun,
Two realms diverge beneath the blazing sun.
Entertainment, beguiling, tempts the heart,
With fleeting joys, it seeks to play its part.
Yet in this dance, a whisper may be heard,
Of deeper worth, of values truly stirred.
For quality, a steadfast beacon bright,
Illuminates the path with guiding light.
Entertainment, a fleeting, transient spark,
Brings laughter, tears, in moments stark.
But quality, with roots that run so deep,
Endures, a treasure that we vow to keep.
In laughter's echo, in applause that dies,
Quality emerges, steadfast, wise.
For in the echo of a well-told tale,
Lies substance that will never pale.
So let us cherish both, in their own right,
For each brings richness to our sight.
Entertainment, with its lively play,
And quality, with truths that never sway
Now this is the kind of post I'd like to see more of. I like it. Poe? Poetry, not stats! I can see that on a tee-shirt! :thumbup:
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
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OurManFlint II
Just checked the stats, 1 more goal than us in open play. Is that your weapon of choice?
The football has been bad at times, no doubt, but we've also had some entertaining* games, far more than in the last 2 seasons (even under Neil Harris it was a hard watch). The league table suggest we are currently 11th best, I'd take that given where we've been. I'd rather see NG bang in a free kick or Goutas tower in a header off a corner if it meant winning a game.
Truth is, a win last weekend it would be a very different place here.
*entertaining does not equate quality.
Yes, we are worse at scoring goals from open play than the worst team in over a decade, probably longer. It is not good enough. We are the lowest scorers in the league from open play. I don't have to explain why that is bad.
I want us to win games but we're not very good at that, either. I think Bulut is a very poor manager and a win last week would not have changed my opinion. Your point about set pieces is fine, I'd be happy but set pieces should be a bonus to your goal tally, rather than the only route to a goal! Judging Bulut against other bad managers does not mean he's good, they're all crap.
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
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North Cardiff Blue
Better natural Striker than these lot, at the start he was good, but like the rest of the attacking players faded badly, Shef Wed shows he knows where the net is.
Whose fault would that be? Who would you say is responsible for getting a performance out of the players?
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
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Pedro de la Rosa
Yes, we are worse at scoring goals from open play than the worst team in over a decade, probably longer. It is not good enough. We are the lowest scorers in the league from open play. I don't have to explain why that is bad.
I want us to win games but we're not very good at that, either. I think Bulut is a very poor manager and a win last week would not have changed my opinion. Your point about set pieces is fine, I'd be happy but set pieces should be a bonus to your goal tally, rather than the only route to a goal! Judging Bulut against other bad managers does not mean he's good, they're all crap.
I am completely with you, not sure what people don't get here :hehe:
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
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Dembe
I am completely with you, not sure what people don't get here :hehe:
I am very, very confused!
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
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Pedro de la Rosa
Have you enjoyed watching the football we’ve played? Do you think we have the first idea what we are going to do wire the bal? Finally, how many clubs have the centre forward you want, cos there’s a handful around, if that.
I enjoyed the games ive seen when Rambo was playing, I enjoy watching OT run at players, Its been more enjoyable than last season when we just prayed that either we got a few points or other teams were docked points, now that was not enjoyable at all
At times we have played decent football, the ball played to the winger's to attack, I still believe we just lacked a CF, with one we would be in the play-offs now
Ive been to a few Bath City games this season ( they are about 45 mins away from me ), when I have a later KO on Saturday and its nigh on impossible to get up to Cardiff, or a evening game, ive gone to Twerton Park, its been refreshing, they support the team, If beaten, they moan on the way out but you know next week they will be back, they get over 1000 a game, bigger games 1400, its a decent experience, im not sure if the football league fan has become a little too entitled in recent years, they demand to be entertained, they demand to win games, of course in a ideal world every team would play entertaining football, be pushing for promotion and given 3 pints or beer at 1/2 time, its not, ive ( in fact most of us )seen alot worse football than we see now, when we didnt expect to win, were lucky to stay up and it was a generally miserable experience
back to the non-league scene, look at the national league, its littered with ex-football league teams who we were playing only a short time ago, in 3 weeks time Bath City are playing Torquay Utd, they still play at Plainmoor, are maybe just about to go out of business, now the '93 away game V Torquay is one of my fav away days of all time, now im sure in a few weeks time I might speak to the 40 Torquay fans who drive upto Bath and ask them if they want to swap places, we all know the answer
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
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blue matt
I enjoyed the games ive seen when Rambo was playing, I enjoy watching OT run at players, Its been more enjoyable than last season when we just prayed that either we got a few points or other teams were docked points, now that was not enjoyable at all
Ramsey has played 9 games this season. Also, if Bulut needs Ramsey to play well, God help us! Tanner needs to get his head up, and back to my failed to improve players point, he's the same (if not worse) than he was in September.
Non League football is a laugh. Not disputing that and there is definitely more to life than watching Bulut's football which is the worst I've seen in years. I wonder how many goals from open play we've scored without Ramsey on the pitch? I bet it's under 10.
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
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Originally Posted by
Pedro de la Rosa
Yes, we are worse at scoring goals from open play than the worst team in over a decade, probably longer. It is not good enough. We are the lowest scorers in the league from open play. I don't have to explain why that is bad.
I want us to win games but we're not very good at that, either. I think Bulut is a very poor manager and a win last week would not have changed my opinion. Your point about set pieces is fine, I'd be happy but set pieces should be a bonus to your goal tally, rather than the only route to a goal! Judging Bulut against other bad managers does not mean he's good, they're all crap.
I think we are agreeing, but feel i am being pushed to defend something that i am not strongly opinionated on, my quest in here was to understand fans expectation, as most across the leagues want their manager sacked, surely not all managers are bad, you think they are with your last sentence.
We are team that has a reputation as being set piece, long ball and physical. I just don't think 1 season is enough to change that, would i give Bulut another season, yes, but because we need some continuity and stability and we are above my expectations in the league. Changing things takes time sometimes. I would have liked Lamouchi to have stayed as well, same reason.
We've seen the peoples/chairman's choices of "proper football" managers being hailed and hired only to fail, like Trollope, Solskjaer, Harris and Morison.
My point, lower your expectations because what you are looking for has not been seen since Lennie Lawrence.
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
I disagree with the notion that Bulut is a poor manager, he is an uninspiring, play-by-stats standard identikit modern manager. We are 11th with a pretty poor squad. Our best players are three defenders, Danny Ward would look like Harland if he returned compared to our centre-forwards.
I don't think he knows what to do with Colwill but would play Davies as he is a pretty conventional inside forward. I think he stays and we are waiting for the Wales games to finish before the media blitz.
We are solid at the back and with three or four forwards we'll be competitive.
Slade was poor (just have a look at his squad compared to now), Morison was poor, Hudson a joke....
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
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the other bob wilson
Yes, shame on those like me who expect some fun and entertainment when watching their team play - what games or incidents from this season will people recall in twenty years time? Ipswich and Swansea at home, goals by Ramsey and Colwill perhaps, Perry Ng being top scorer if it stays that way and that’s the lot I reckon.
Beating Birmingham away without any centre backs in the team
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
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gabbsthenewt
Beating Birmingham away without any centre backs in the team
That got forgotten a month later when City were stuffed by Blackburn with no centre backs in the team.
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
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lardy
:hehe: I loved that book.
Me too!
A quote from it that's apt considering the thread and discussion is:
“Yes, yes, I know all the jokes. What else could I have expected at Highbury? But I went to Chelsea and to Tottenham and to Rangers, and saw the same thing: that the natural state of a football fan is bitter disappointment, no matter what the score.”
― Nick Hornby, Fever Pitch
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
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Dembe
Whose fault would that be? Who would you say is responsible for getting a performance out of the players?
Buluts mistake but maybe stats wise Jay-Jew looked like a better option, I think he thought he was getting the Greek/Turkish Striker or Kieffer, and had to move one out to get one in.
Overall I think he's done a good job with the resources available, lets see what he does in the next eight weeks with a few players back and no pressure and then how he can balance the team with a transfer window.
We've been weak on Strikers and left backs for years now!
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
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llan bluebird
I disagree with the notion that Bulut is a poor manager, he is an uninspiring, play-by-stats standard identikit modern manager. We are 11th with a pretty poor squad. Our best players are three defenders, Danny Ward would look like Harland if he returned compared to our centre-forwards.
I don't think he knows what to do with Colwill but would play Davies as he is a pretty conventional inside forward. I think he stays and we are waiting for the Wales games to finish before the media blitz.
We are solid at the back and with three or four forwards we'll be competitive.
Slade was poor (just have a look at his squad compared to now), Morison was poor, Hudson a joke....
Spot on :thumbup:
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
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Originally Posted by
North Cardiff Blue
Spot on :thumbup:
seconded
first season in British football trying to play the modern way with restricted players , restricted budgets etc
currently cemented in the top half of the table .hope we can get at least another 12 points before the season ends and kick on next season that's if he don't get poached away
don't think i could stomach another season with the type of managers before Bulut at our club again
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
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MOZZER2
don't think i could stomach another season with the type of managers before Bulut at our club again
How are you finding Bulut's fast-paced, Futsal-style of football, Mozzer? Thrilling, isn't it? As I recall, you claimed it would be like nothing we've ever seen before...
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
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Originally Posted by
North Cardiff Blue
Better natural Striker than these lot, at the start he was good, but like the rest of the attacking players faded badly, Shef Wed shows he knows where the net is.
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Originally Posted by
Dembe
Whose fault would that be? Who would you say is responsible for getting a performance out of the players?
:tumbleweed:
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
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The Lone Gunman
How are you finding Bulut's fast-paced, Futsal-style of football, Mozzer? Thrilling, isn't it? As I recall, you claimed it would be like nothing we've ever seen before...
:tumbleweed: :tumbleweed: :tumbleweed:
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
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The Lone Gunman
:tumbleweed: :tumbleweed: :tumbleweed:
You conjure up a picture of an old fashioned school headmaster, standing in a long gown and mortar board with your bendy cane, waiting to give Mozzer a jolly good thrashing for daring to have a positive opinion when Bulut first took over the reigns. 😁
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
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The Lone Gunman
:tumbleweed: :tumbleweed: :tumbleweed:
Silence is deafening TLG. My mate NCB makes loads of posts daily too so he's definitely seen my post...
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
You conjure up a picture of an old fashioned school headmaster, standing in a long gown and mortar board with your bendy cane, waiting to give Mozzer a jolly good thrashing for daring to have a positive opinion when Bulut first took over the reigns. 😁
He’d have you in detention for your spelling:hehe:
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
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splott parker
He’d have you in detention for your spelling:hehe:
Full stop.
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
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olderblue
Start with COD on the left, Grant on the right, Colwill as 10 and Ralls alongside Siopis for a start
Keep Wintle and Bowler away from the squad
You really have a downer on Wintle. Best player on the pitch by a country mile against Ipswich, a team destined for the Prem. You obviously don't like players that cover every inch of the pitch and can pass or cross. Put Ramsey in with him and Siopis and we would have a very decent Championship midfield. Ralls on the other hand appears to get a free ride.
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
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dml1954
You really have a downer on Wintle. Best player on the pitch by a country mile against Ipswich, a team destined for the Prem. You obviously don't like players that cover every inch of the pitch and can pass or cross. Put Ramsey in with him and Siopis and we would have a very decent Championship midfield. Ralls on the other hand appears to get a free ride.
Wintle has one good game in 6, he’s overrated and I doubt any team in the top half of the Championship would have him in there squad.
Tell me when Wintle last broke up play, made incisive forward passes that split the opposition defence?
Cover every inch of ground? Are you pissed already, !!! He’s a ****ing donkey and lacks bottle
You might be happy to see someone robbing a living by masquerading as a footballer, I want to see someone batting and fighting to win the right to play football
Wintle is a absolute tosser and should be no where near the squad never mind the team after playing like a pussy last Saturday
He isn’t fit to wear the shirt
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
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olderblue
Wintle has one good game in 6, he’s overrated and I doubt any team in the top half of the Championship would have him in there squad.
Tell me when Wintle last broke up play, made incisive forward passes that split the opposition defence?
Cover every inch of ground? Are you pissed already, !!! He’s a ****ing donkey and lacks bottle
You might be happy to see someone robbing a living by masquerading as a footballer, I want to see someone batting and fighting to win the right to play football
Wintle is a absolute tosser and should be no where near the squad never mind the team after playing like a pussy last Saturday
He isn’t fit to wear the shirt
He fits a very specific role, in a very specific formation. I can imagine he might be fine at Swansea.
Problem for us is he isn’t good enough defensively and doesn’t offer enough going forward. He’s not a bad player, he’s fine as a squad player but we need much better to progress
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
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2b2bdoo
He fits a very specific role, in a very specific formation. I can imagine he might be fine at Swansea.
Problem for us is he isn’t good enough defensively and doesn’t offer enough going forward. He’s not a bad player, he’s fine as a squad player but we need much better to progress
I’d rather see Colwill jnr play the last eight games than Wintle
I don’t want to see Bowler playing for us again either, complete Fanny
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
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olderblue
Wintle has one good game in 6, he’s overrated and I doubt any team in the top half of the Championship would have him in there squad.
Tell me when Wintle last broke up play, made incisive forward passes that split the opposition defence?
Cover every inch of ground? Are you pissed already, !!! He’s a ****ing donkey and lacks bottle
You might be happy to see someone robbing a living by masquerading as a footballer, I want to see someone batting and fighting to win the right to play football
Wintle is a absolute tosser and should be no where near the squad never mind the team after playing like a pussy last Saturday
He isn’t fit to wear the shirt
Totally agree. He scored against Ipswich with his first venture into their box. He can't defend and can't attack.
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
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olderblue
I’d rather see Colwill jnr play the last eight games than Wintle
I don’t want to see Bowler playing for us again either, complete Fanny
Colwill should be playing although I don’t see him as a Wintle replacement.
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
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2b2bdoo
Colwill should be playing although I don’t see him as a Wintle replacement.
Id like to see Ralls and Turnbull have a go in midfield together. Turnbull looks uncomfortable upfront with meite-latey.
honestly..the wintle hate is crazy. he was so woeful in the first half of the season and nobody said a word! now he is finally coming good you lot snipe him with no justification. 6 months ago i wouldve been calling for his head right along with you lot! lol
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Wintle is a "6" a defensive midfielder in today's parlance, he is not an "8" a box-to-box CM in old money.
Ralls is an "8" and was a very good top end championship "8", but he is not as instantly comfortable with the ball as Wintle, his first instinct is to get the ball forward even if it means giving it away, whereas Wintle is to shuffle it on.
Siopis is a thief, he steals balls but his incisive passing highlight reel is even smaller than him. He is never a 6 in the championship.
So for me its Wintle and two far more attacking players probably Colwill and Turnbull
Wintle and Sio should work in a double pivot but plainly does not
(IMO) Ralls is still our most effective midfielder but father time is catching up but we look better with him and Sio as two traditional CM's with a 10. Playing wintle in that position instead of Ralls hasn't worked. When Wintle looked good, there is a visible gap between him and the two CM's in front of him.
Also with Bulut being into inverted full backs moving into midfield do we even need a "6"?
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
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2b2bdoo
Colwill should be playing although I don’t see him as a Wintle replacement.
Rubin Colwill should be starting every game
My point was that his brother, Colwill junior or jnr as I’ve posted, should be playing the next 8 matches to give him experience and help his confidence and development
We have nothing to lose by putting a couple of youngsters in for the rest of the season
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
Bulut might have something to lose if he puts the youngsters in, we are shite and he doesn’t get his contract renewed at the end of the year.
Ultimately this is part of the bigger problem which is continuity and a plan at the club. Bulut might not be a great manager but while he’s managing like his job depends on a few wins, we’re never going to see him be adventurous and give the kids a chance. Bring in new manager and repeat the cycle all over again. Until we’ve got football men at the top it won’t change.
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
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Originally Posted by
OurManFlint II
I think we are agreeing, but feel i am being pushed to defend something that i am not strongly opinionated on, my quest in here was to understand fans expectation, as most across the leagues want their manager sacked, surely not all managers are bad, you think they are with your last sentence.
We are team that has a reputation as being set piece, long ball and physical. I just don't think 1 season is enough to change that, would i give Bulut another season, yes, but because we need some continuity and stability and we are above my expectations in the league. Changing things takes time sometimes. I would have liked Lamouchi to have stayed as well, same reason.
We've seen the peoples/chairman's choices of "proper football" managers being hailed and hired only to fail, like Trollope, Solskjaer, Harris and Morison.
My point, lower your expectations because what you are looking for has not been seen since Lennie Lawrence.
There has to be a team that scores the least goals from open play every season and there has to be one that scores the most set piece goals - the latter shouldn't be a bad thing, but, put it with the former and a certain picture starts to present itself. We're on course to be the least creative side from open play and the most effective from set pieces in the Championship this season - clearly, we're far from the divisions great entertainers.
I don't share your opinion that we have not seen "proper football" in the near twenty years since Lennie Lawrence was in charge. Dave Jones teams could be direct, but it could be definitely be argued that they needed more of the kind of physicality that City teams have been built on in the last decade or so - if anything, Jones' teams had too many "proper footballers" in them.
Four years ago, Neil Harris tried to change the way we played a bit and at least two others since then have had a go - all of them had to adjust their approach because we weren't good enough technically to play the sort of football we were trying to move towards. I find it ludicrous that there's has been a desire to shift to a way of playing that is more progressive and I would argue watchable over a four year period at the club and we appear to be no further forward in that goal than we were in 2020!
You might not mean it, but, in effect, what you're saying is that we've had four years of dreadfully boring, losing football at Cardiff City Stadium during this decade, but there's nothing which can be done about it because we're stuck with it - it's what we are.
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
As a stalker of this forum rather than a main contributor it always strikes me how romanticised football talked about on here with a large cohort. It's a brutal professional sport where every person is trying to raise their individual profile to gain larger contracts or just contracts.
Within the game, a multitude of interested professionals are monitoring every player and manager. They will write up reports that say whether Bulut has achieved more than the sum of the parts or not. He isn't going to go gung ho. He has improved us.
I agree it's dreadful, boring, attritional stuff but we are where we all hoped for at the start of the season, mid-table obscurity. Buluts' reputation has been enhanced, and so has NG's, Goutas, and maybe McGuiness other than that two fading stars in Rambo and Ralls, L1 CM's loaned out, no strikers at all. Grants has amazing work ethic, but £15 mill :facepalm: can't see too many top end champ clubs pestering Forest over Bowler and Colwill poses as many questions as answers. We will not be worried by summer raiders.
I just don't believe the wage bill figure knocking around socials and when Dalman referenced it for Roathboy I doubted it even more. Its a limited, attritional collection of players for an assault on the championship
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
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splott parker
He’d have you in detention for your spelling:hehe:
Which spelling mistakes?
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
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Originally Posted by
llan bluebird
Wintle is a "6" a defensive midfielder in today's parlance, he is not an "8" a box-to-box CM in old money.
Ralls is an "8" and was a very good top end championship "8", but he is not as instantly comfortable with the ball as Wintle, his first instinct is to get the ball forward even if it means giving it away, whereas Wintle is to shuffle it on.
Siopis is a thief, he steals balls but his incisive passing highlight reel is even smaller than him. He is never a 6 in the championship.
So for me its Wintle and two far more attacking players probably Colwill and Turnbull
Wintle and Sio should work in a double pivot but plainly does not
(IMO) Ralls is still our most effective midfielder but father time is catching up but we look better with him and Sio as two traditional CM's with a 10. Playing wintle in that position instead of Ralls hasn't worked. When Wintle looked good, there is a visible gap between him and the two CM's in front of him.
Also with Bulut being into inverted full backs moving into midfield do we even need a "6"?
We have not once played well when Bulut does this, not once. Everyone needs a defensive midfielder. Also, 6 gets on my wick. Number 6 is a centre back, a 4 is the defensive midfielder.
Siopis and Wintle is the worst pairing. They offer nothing in possession. Anyway, if Bulut has any sense it should be Colwill, Ashford and Tanner as the 3 behind the striker from now on. Let's see what they're made of.
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
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llan bluebird
As a stalker of this forum rather than a main contributor it always strikes me how romanticised football talked about on here with a large cohort. It's a brutal professional sport where every person is trying to raise their individual profile to gain larger contracts or just contracts.
Within the game, a multitude of interested professionals are monitoring every player and manager. They will write up reports that say whether Bulut has achieved more than the sum of the parts or not. He isn't going to go gung ho. He has improved us.
I agree it's dreadful, boring, attritional stuff but we are where we all hoped for at the start of the season, mid-table obscurity. Buluts' reputation has been enhanced, and so has NG's, Goutas, and maybe McGuiness other than that two fading stars in Rambo and Ralls, L1 CM's loaned out, no strikers at all. Grants has amazing work ethic, but £15 mill :facepalm: can't see too many top end champ clubs pestering Forest over Bowler and Colwill poses as many questions as answers. We will not be worried by summer raiders.
I just don't believe the wage bill figure knocking around socials and when Dalman referenced it for Roathboy I doubted it even more. Its a limited, attritional collection of players for an assault on the championship
Yet no end of teams in all divisions working within the cut throat world of professional football play a more attractive brand of football than us despite having limitations put on them through the financial restrictions they have to operate under. Let’s be clear as well that, at home in particular, the last four years (the first of which would have seen us still receiving parachute payments) have seen football that has been unwatchable at times, it’s also been losing football in the main, although the recent run of victories might mean that we’d end up with more home wins than defeats for the first time since 19/20.
I don’t think we have the sixth biggest wage budget in the Championship either, but I can believe that it is significantly bigger than last season and it wouldn’t surprise me at all if our current position is around the same as where we stand in the wages table this season. So, sorry, I don’t buy the line that Bulut is some sort of miracle worker - for me, his record is one of playing counter attacking, set piece orientated football no matter how big the club is - unfortunately, the evidence of seven months of competitive football at Cardiff is that his sides also are very boring as well.
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
You conjure up a picture of an old fashioned school headmaster, standing in a long gown and mortar board with your bendy cane, waiting to give Mozzer a jolly good thrashing for daring to have a positive opinion when Bulut first took over the reigns.
Well, here's the thing: as far as this board is concerned, Mozzer has been Bulut's cheerleader-in-chief since the minute he was appointed and back in September, after the victories over Swansea and Coventry, he was bumping old threads while attempting to take the piss out of me for daring to suggest it wasn't clear at that stage what Bulut's preferred style of play of was.
When Bulut was appointed, Mozzer was excited by what he believed was the manager's background in Futsal, although in fact he only played in one Futsal tournment for Turkey right at the end of his playing career when he was in his late-thirties. Nevertheless, the 'Futsal background' line is one Mozzer has repeated several times since.
In June, he boldly predicted we'd see an influx of players from Spain and Portugal as a result of Bulut's alleged Futsal roots, but that obviously didn't happen. He also claimed his 'research' had revealed that Bulut's team would produce "a high-intensity, Futsal style of football like nothing we have ever experienced at Cardiff before..."
By the time we'd got to late-August, he was saying he had believed all along that Bulut would be "looking to play a more expansive game," whatever that meant. In September, he claimed Bulut's preferred style of play involved "flooding the midfield and playing through the midfield," whatever that meant. And he was mockingly asking me if I was getting it yet, although he didn't state what 'it' was.
Before the season had even started, Mozzer was predicting Bulut would be the best Cardiff City manager in 30 years or more. Given his love of Futsal and his bold pre-season claims about Bulut's methods, you'd think he would be annoyed by the tedious rubbish City have been serving up in recent months, especially as it's the polar opposite of how he suggested the team would play. However, on the contrary, Mozzer is still seemingly entrenched in his view that Bulut was a brilliant appointment, which I find more than a little amusing.
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Re: A stat that may surprise the Bulut fans
Would you renew Buluts contract TLG or remove him? Im on the fence. But thats more to do with the clowns running the clubs ability to replace him with someone half decent.
Hes got us safe this season but thats mainly by getting us to be a force at set pieces again.