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Originally Posted by bluemoon
That second half performance was absolutely dreadful.
Millwall were a bang average Neil Harris team but we were shocking.
One shot on target in the second half?
Rubbish.
Yep Millwall had the desire as the game went on .Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Utter shite!
We seemed to lack the passion Millwall displayed when hunting down the ball this afternoon, particularly during the second half. It felt as if Bulut hadn't fired them up enough at half-time to get back in the game and seek the equaliser.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock
Tanner needs to go out to a Division 2 outfit next season IMO as he is simply not good enough at this level. His passing is shocking at times and his tackling even worse. But then you could say that of others, too.
So, is this the Bulut's fault? Think he could have done more in some games, but he would argue he had limited resources and did the best he could given the restrictions placed on the club to bring in new players.
Think this summer we need a root and branch change. We need to offload some players who are not performing at this level and develop a better strategy on and off the pitch.
Do the players get as bored passing the ball around at the back as we do watching it?
I understand that we need to move the opposition around to create space and an opening but when the end product is a defender or the keeper simply hoofing it long and us losing possession, what is the point?
I just don’t understand the tactics.
I’m all for passing football but without any incision and forward movement it all seems so futile.
Our players seem programmed to play backwards and sideways (e.g. Grant)
Same here. As soon as Wintle and Ralls were given TWO MORE SEASONS !Quote:
Originally Posted by bluemoon
I don’t disagree agree with you re the final paragraph but didn’t we all say this last season and the season before that and the season before that….etc?Quote:
Originally Posted by bluebirdcelt
Do you watch much football?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff
Utter shite. We looked worse and less threatening after the attacking subs. We really do have some rubbish in and around the squad.
But hey, we got enough material for another 17 pages on Colwill so I guess that's something?
Tanner’s passing and tackling is poor. But the lad is 6 foot, is quick, has good feet and finishes quite well.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluebirdcelt
I would take these key attributes and play him up front. Just use his dribbling, pace and finishing and play to his strengths. He can’t be worse than Meite or Etete.
A front line of, this Colwill behind could be worth a gamble
Grant. Tanner. Bowler
Great post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock
Tanner has got to go somewhere and play for a season. Other than the physical attributes he’s not ready for a level below, not even close. I’d have Ashford in the squad ahead of every time based on just the 30 minutes he’s played.
Does he finish well? He scored a very good goal against Swansea but that was hardly a "striker's goal", he also followed that up with missing an open goal against Sunderland a week or so laterQuote:
Originally Posted by Keyser Soze
Is our strategy for scoring a goal literally "see if we can pinch one from a set piece"? Hard to make out any other tactic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff
Jimmy The Jock seems to know…..Quote:
Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland
Played well enough until Millwall scored just before half time against the run of play. 2nd half non event.
You can see why Phillips has only ever scored a handful of goals in his career. Really should have hit the target,and if he had he would have scored. City's best chance.
Really no idea what our attacking tactics are and the plyaers look equally lost.Quote:
Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland
Not sure why, after a performance like that, attention turns to Tanner- the whole team was garbage with the sole exception of Ashford who put in a decent showing.
I think Bulut ought to go but I wonder does he play this way because he realises the players are too lazy to put much effort in. That would explain a fair bit.
Exactly, Tanner’s been living off that Swansea goal for months. He was hopeless when he came on today and I don’t see any sign of progression from him as the season has gone on - quite the opposite actually. I don’t think Bulut’s negative attitude helped Tanner in the weeks after the Swansea goal, but you can’t blame a performance like today’s on the manager - if anything, Bulut has given him too many chances lately because he’s not been doing anything to earn them in recent months.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
Like a few in our squad, maybe he thinks he’s arrived, rather than thinking he’s at base camp!Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Tanner has a raw talent but either lacks the discipline required of a good Championship player or he’s peaked at the Jacks game, and is punching above his weight
He needs to go out on loan next season to a Div 2 side, which I think is he’s level
You're a good poster. I find myself agreeing with a lot of what you say.Quote:
Originally Posted by olderblue
I believe he was dropped from the squad altogether after the Swansea game where he scored a worldy.Quote:
Originally Posted by olderblue
Billy big bollocks was strutting his stuff round the place by all accords .
Nothing wrong with a bit of arrogance , be nice to see it backed up with a bit more football .
I am all for bringing the youngsters through , its a joy to watch even when we aren't playing so well.
Colwill has gone from showing a bit of skill here and there in cameo appearances to being pivotal in most good things that happen.
I doubt Tanner will do the same , but each time he comes on I hope he does.
Post of the thread. Way to much analysing, excuses etc. It's exactly how you put it, ****ing Rubbish.Quote:
Originally Posted by NYCBlue
The two are not mutually exclusive. He's Welsh, I get it. But please let us try not to pretend he's something he's not.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
He's ****ing Rhubarb, Bob.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Not childish at all. An opinion. To which I am entitled. Calling yourself Keyser Sosa and ranting like you think your opinions are insightful or of particular value: That's childish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keyser Soze
I didn't see the game today but I get what you are saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff
We seem to be doing this a lot recently.
You are right that the sole reason playing out from the keeper is to stretch the game, drawing out the opposition in order to create space for the midfield and forwards.
For this to work there has to be movement, speed of thought and of course players to pick a pass.
We see no movement and therefore the midfield slow it down and either go sideways or backwards.
Perhaps the fact that there is no decent movement from our attackers is because they know that they will not get the ball due to their teammates not having the quality to provide for them.
We have very little attacking quality.
I think that Bulut has identified this and his negative tactics since the early part of the season have ensued.
What I think people find frustrating is the fact that we keep doing as you say going sideways and backwards.
Bulut should be either bollocking his attacking players for not showing, or ditching the pissing about at the back.
Teams put a high press on us because they know we aren't comfortable playing that way.
I listened to the game on Radio Wales and it was interesting to hear some of Jason Perry's comments.
He was very critical of the fact our wide midfielders were so defensive and encouraged Millwall's full backs to become, in effect, wing backs, which put us under pressure.
He didn't like our substitutions, particularly Wintle for Siopis. He argued there was no point in continuing with 2 defensive midfielders as that hadn't worked well in an attacking sense, so a change of personnel was hardly going to change much when it was obvious a change of tactic was needed.
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Originally Posted by D. Advocaat
Why are we talking about a second half sub when the whole team was terrible.
Weird.
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Originally Posted by MacAdder
And yet there were many times, certainly in the first half, when our defenders could have played the ball into Colwill’s feet and yet chose not to, and played sideways or backwards instead.
Why?
And the second half was even worse.
It was another dreadful performance, which stands out all the more because we lost, we were awful for most of the Birmingham game as we have been for most of our scrappy 1-0 wins this season. Maybe we're a bit more resilient under Bulut and our set piece play has improved, but the football is as awful as it's been for the past few seasons. I think it would be foolhardy to give him a new contract.
It’s like we play a back four but then with an additional 2 wingbacks and 2 defensive midfielders.
If it made us ultra difficult to beat, I wouldn't say so much, but it hasn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2b2bdoo
It was obvious from our view in the away end that there were huge spaces to exploit on both wings in the first half.
Our ‘wingers’ were simply not interested in running into those spaces, and our defenders/midfield were not interested in passing into those spaces.
At half time Harris clearly told his team to press even higher because City wouldn’t attack those spaces even if his team sat down and had a picnic.
Shockingly defensive tactics from Bulut all season, carried into these games where we don’t even need to worry.
…and we let in another 3 goals despite that defensive attitude.
Collins and Grant were a major threat on the left for about half an hour before Millwall reorganised and shut the space down for Collins to get forward. Unfortunately Grant then "disappeared" for the rest of the game. Bowler never got in the game primarily as Ng was struggling with Millwall targeting him with balls into the space behind him. In fact I found it a revelation how much Ng struggles with his judgement under a high diagonal - something I suspect Harris/Millwall were well aware of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crisp White Lines
Agreed. I noticed that too now you mention it.Quote:
Originally Posted by JumpersforGoalposts
Good post.