EUROS FINAL. FT: ENGLAND 1 - 2 SPAIN

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Originally Posted by PontBlue

What a start

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Page out!

Another cracking game this.

What are the odds the England game tomorrow will be the exception...

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Originally Posted by PontBlue

Another cracking game this.

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I've always admired the Italian coaches, they have consistent technical quality throughout the divisions.

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

You're right, it was Russia. I'm getting old!!

Had to check the group. We were 4 points adrift of Italy in the end. The group started with Yugoslavia taking part and changing to Serbia and Montenegro. There was some infighting with the players from what I remember, resulting in them picking up only 1 point from 2 games against Azerbaijan.

Italy only drew at home to Yugoslavia, so after we'd won our opening 4 games we could have lost in Italy and qualified with 3 wins. As it was, 2 would have been enough. Unfortunately for us, all of S&M's main players decided to return and they did the double over us, while we also failed to beat Finland at home, winning 1 point from the last 4 matches. That Finland game Finnished us off. We would have been a point clear of Italy with a last home game over S&M to come, but ended up needing Azerbaijan to get a result in Italy, which they didn't manage. Alternatively, had Serbia & Montenegro not had their problems and beaten Azerbaijan twice, they'd have won the group in the end.

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"Calling IT support, calling IT support, Eric's spreadsheet's fecked, need a back up pronto!" :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by MacAdder

"Calling IT support, calling IT support, Eric's spreadsheet's fecked, need a back up pronto!" :biggrin:

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I have backups....

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Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee

I have backups....

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Ah feck! :hehe:

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Why is Rodri still on the pitch?

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The same reason as Albania not getting that corner they deserved, it doesn't suit the narrative.

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Originally Posted by jon1959

A question the ITV commentators threatened to answer, but then dodged.

I struggle to understand the laws where there is a foul in the box and a penalty.

A red card can be given as well as the penalty - depending on the severity of the foul - but my understanding (which may be wrong) is that the referee can deem the penalty to be punishment enough and settle for a yellow for the foul.

Rodri did foul, but it was a slight touch.

If he had fouled just outside the box with only the keeper to beat he would probably have got a red for denying a goal scoring opportunity.

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I think there's an argument as to whether it was a penalty in the first place, but as one had been given, it has ro be a red card surely?

SUNDAY 16th JUNE

FT: POLAND 1 - 2 NETHERLANDS

FT: SLOVENIA 1 - 1 DENMARK

FT: SERBIA 0 - 1 ENGLAND

Regarding the Rodri foul, my understanding was that it was changed a few years ago and unless it’s deliberate denial of a goal scoring opportunity in the box there’s no double jeopardy. It is a yellow as the awarding of the penalty is deemed enough of a sanction. No idea if that’s actually the case at the Euros but that’s what I thought was now the FIFA law.

Outside of the box it’s a red no matter what (see the incident in the PSG Barca game in which Barca would have rather a penalty because it only would have been yellow).

Given that he probably didn’t touch him, I think if that’s the case it’s the right decision. If it wasn’t for the fact it was a totally open goal and made absolutely no sense you’d call it a dive and say Croatia were lucky to even get the pen and not end up with a yellow themselves.

I actually thought the decision was going to be overturned. The whole episode seemed to sum up croatia pretty well, more interested in cheating and breaking up the game than actually scoring a goal.

Spain looked bloody good mind. Sat back 2nd half, but they had the game in the bag by half time.

I'm predicting a 2-2 draw for England tonight against Serbia and an easy win against Slovenia, which will be probably be enough for them to get out of their group.

Good game between Netherlands and Poland. Netherlands the better side, but not by much. Poland look a lot more open and attacking than they have in previous tournaments.


Strangely, it looked like one of the polish substitutes managed to hurt himself while remonstrating with the ref from the sidelines. Hopefully for him it's not a bad one

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Originally Posted by chrisp_1927

Good game between Netherlands and Poland. Netherlands the better side, but not by much. Poland look a lot more open and attacking than they have in previous tournaments.


Strangely, it looked like one of the polish substitutes managed to hurt himself while remonstrating with the ref from the sidelines. Hopefully for him it's not a bad one

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Yes, another good game. Poland look a stronger side than they did against us in the PO, even without Lewandowski.

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Originally Posted by Swiss Peter

Yes, another good game. Poland look a stronger side than they did against us in the PO, even without Lewandowski.

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Just what I was thinking, maybe they’ve been freed up in a way because everything doesn’t have to go through Lewandowski?

Enjoying Slovenia v Denmark. 1-1 and Slovenia hit the post with a thunderous strike too

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Originally Posted by chrisp_1927

Strangely, it looked like one of the polish substitutes managed to hurt himself while remonstrating with the ref from the sidelines. Hopefully for him it's not a bad one

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Bad news, he's pulled a tongue muscle and can't talk for two weeks.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Bad news, he's pulled a tongue muscle and can't talk for two weeks.

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His missus is fuming !



Seemed to be his knee that went. One second he's jumping up shouting, the next he's clutching his knee

Worried for a sec as there's a CCFC flag in the crowd. Thankfully it says Sky Blues underneath.

England ....What a side , top top quality in almost every department .
A little boring in the build up , they could well win it this time .
Is there abetter accumulation of great footballers in any other nation?

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Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock

England ....What a side , top top quality in almost every department .
A little boring in the build up , they could well win it this time .
Is there abetter accumulation of great footballers in any other nation?

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The commentators are very impressed.

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Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock

England ....What a side , top top quality in almost every department .

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Loads of excellent attacking options, but they need to press home the advantage when they have it because this defence is definitely suspect.

I’m always baffled when international sides with pools of players the size of England’s end up playing people out of position. Madness.

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Originally Posted by splott parker

The commentators are very impressed.

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I think Shearer must have posters of Bellingham on his bedroom wall.

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Originally Posted by splott parker

The commentators are very impressed.

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There is a feeling the coverage of England is over the top .
When Wales were doing well in the Euros all those years ago it was exactly the same. If we were English we would want/expect
the coverage to be so .
The Daily Mail did an article slaughtering Scotland and Scottish people , someone came on here spouting the same shite .
I felt sorry for both of them .

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Originally Posted by The Bloop

I think Shearer must have posters of Bellingham on his bedroom wall.

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Yeah, imagine being enthusiastic about one of the best players in the world. Scandalous.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Loads of excellent attacking options, but they need to press home the advantage when they have it because this defence is definitely suspect.

I’m always baffled when international sides with pools of players the size of England’s end up playing people out of position. Madness.

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We were saying they are very conservative for a side full of such talent .
Then they scored .
Boring Gareth may bring it home yet .

Lineker a bit more realistic then. Started well, competent. I thought they’d kick on after a great goal but neither ‘keeper has really been troubled. Yes, they’ve played well but all too far away from the danger area. I did think the wrong player took the one ‘dangerous position’ free kick they had though. Trippier or Foden for me within that distance and position. 1-0 isn’t a comfortable score at the moment as the Dane’s discovered earlier.

It's the same old cobblers

Shearer saying what a great cross it was for the goal when it was in fact a deflection which held the ball up for Bellingham to score

England are a good side but they are playing a very ordinary Serbia outfit

There are 4 or 5 sides that could beat England with a fair wind and England pushing the panic button

They should win this comfortably tonight but its the first game and the champagne is on ice

It's all a bit daft

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Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock

There is a feeling the coverage of England is over the top .
When Wales were doing well in the Euros all those years ago it was exactly the same. If we were English we would want/expect
the coverage to be so .
The Daily Mail did an article slaughtering Scotland and Scottish people , someone came on here spouting the same shite .
I felt sorry for both of them .

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The Daily Mail spouts shite every day! So I’ve heard!

For all the attacking talent they have, it’s been a piss poor performance so far. Apart from the goal, which was top notch, they’ve only made a couple of half chances.
If they score first in the second half, they should go on and win it, but the Serbs were coming onto their game as half time approached. Bellingham is best player on the park by a country mile ( what ever that is) 😂

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Originally Posted by William Treseder

For all the attacking talent they have, it’s been a piss poor performance so far. Apart from the goal, which was top notch, they’ve only made a couple of half chances.
If they score first in the second half, they should go on and win it, but the Serbs were coming onto their game as half time approached. Bellingham is best player on the park by a country mile ( what ever that is) 😂

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He's a powerful unit for 20 years old

Who was that black lad played for Derby, never really hit the big time but very powerful midfielder?

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Originally Posted by William Treseder

For all the attacking talent they have, it’s been a piss poor performance so far. Apart from the goal, which was top notch, they’ve only made a couple of half chances.
If they score first in the second half, they should go on and win it, but the Serbs were coming onto their game as half time approached. Bellingham is best player on the park by a country mile ( what ever that is) ��

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1761 yards.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

He's a powerful unit for 20 years old

Who was that black lad played for Derby, never really hit the big time but very powerful midfielder?

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How long ago ?

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

He's a powerful unit for 20 years old

Who was that black lad played for Derby, never really hit the big time but very powerful midfielder?

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Went to Spurs, never quite fulfilled his promise. Huddleston.

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Originally Posted by splott parker

1761 yards.

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What about an inner city mile ?

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Originally Posted by splott parker

1761 yards.

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Thanks Splotty. For me that’s been one of life’s mysteries 😁

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Originally Posted by William Treseder

For all the attacking talent they have, it’s been a piss poor performance so far. Apart from the goal, which was top notch, they’ve only made a couple of half chances.
If they score first in the second half, they should go on and win it, but the Serbs were coming onto their game as half time approached. Bellingham is best player on the park by a country mile ( what ever that is) ��

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It does look like they are playing with the shackles on .
BUT , when they stretched their legs it was BOOM , mark of a top side.
I think Gareth Southgate keeps them conservative , if it wins the tournament he will be hailed a genius manager .
I would rather see them be a little more cavalier with the talent on show , somehow I doubt I have ever been a consideration of the English FA .

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Originally Posted by splott parker

Went to Spurs, never quite fulfilled his promise. Huddleston.

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That's him

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Originally Posted by William Treseder

How long ago ?

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