2024 US Presidential Election

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Looks like the Republicans will have;

The president (with an electoral college and popular vote
The house of representives
The senate
A supreme court with majority appointees by that party.

I assume this has happened before, but it must be many years? Does anyone know?

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It will be interesting to know the answer to this, once again the experts are way out.

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Originally Posted by truthpaste

It will be interesting to know the answer to this, once again the experts are way out.

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You mean the paid for media in this country and beyond.

That’s one good thing to have come out of Covid :hehe:

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

You mean the paid for media in this country and beyond

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Priceless 😆

This might be worth a watch for those who are struggling to cope with recent events.

00:00 Introduction
00:45 How would YOU take Trump down?
10:00 PBD's advice to Donald Trump
20:45 What we should be paranoid about after this election
26:45 Rise of anxiety in society
31:05 Mainstream vs alternative media
35:00 Putin, Israel-Palestine and Iran

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKNasDSLoQU

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Priceless ��

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I didn’t expect you to understand, perhaps post another 45,000 posts about bullshit and beyond and you may get it , until then suck it up

I’ve no time for self appointed government deputy’s.

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

I didn’t expect you to understand, perhaps post another 45,000 posts about bullshit and beyond and you may get it , until then suck it up

I’ve no time for self appointed government deputy’s.

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One day you will get a medal for all your work to help us understand what you know and we don't

It's a special gift you have

God bless you

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

One day you will get a medal for all your work to help us understand what you know and we don't

It's a special gift you have

God bless you

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You don't have to pick a side and blindly follow them. A better strategy would be to view things from all angles and then work out what is actually going on. I'm not a Trumpist by any means, but when I saw the Russia collusion nonsense I called it out for what it was, and a lot of people didn't like me for that :hehe:

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Looks like the Republicans will have;

The president (with an electoral college and popular vote
The house of representives
The senate
A supreme court with majority appointees by that party.

I assume this has happened before, but it must be many years? Does anyone know?

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Have you asked Eric?

My daughter pointed out today that Trump is a woman-beater.
He Lost to Joe, but he beat Clinton and Harris.
So he only beats women, the bully. :hehe:

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

This might be worth a watch for those who are struggling to cope with recent events.

00:00 Introduction
00:45 How would YOU take Trump down?
10:00 PBD's advice to Donald Trump
20:45 What we should be paranoid about after this election
26:45 Rise of anxiety in society
31:05 Mainstream vs alternative media
35:00 Putin, Israel-Palestine and Iran

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKNasDSLoQU

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How are you coping with losing money on your Trump losing bet despite spending years telling us about your timeline? Bit embarrassing :sherlock:

Politics aside, I just can’t for the life of my understand how a convicted rapist, sex pest and felon can be elected as the head of any country never mind the United States. No doubt most on here are husbands, have daughters and granddaughters. Do you honestly hand on heart agree with this vile, dangerous individual being President?

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Originally Posted by ninian opinian

Politics aside, I just can’t for the life of my understand how a convicted rapist, sex pest and felon can be elected as the head of any country never mind the United States. No doubt most on here are husbands, have daughters and granddaughters. Do you honestly hand on heart agree with this vile, dangerous individual being President?

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I think his election sums up America and capitalism

And why the ghost of Thatcher is still with us

Me , me , me

Bernie Sanders:

“It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic party which has abandoned working-class people would find that the working class has abandoned them. First, it was the white working class, and now it is Latino and Black workers as well. While the Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change. And they’re right....

"Today, despite strong opposition from a majority of Americans, we continue to spend billions funding the extremist Netanyahu government’s all out war against the Palestinian people which has led to the horrific humanitarian disaster of mass malnutrition and the starvation of thousands of children.

"Will the big money interests and well-paid consultants who control the Democratic party learn any real lessons from this disastrous campaign? Will they understand the pain and political alienation that tens of millions of Americans are experiencing? Do they have any ideas as to how we can take on the increasingly powerful oligarchy which has so much economic and political power? Probably not.

"In the coming weeks and months those of us concerned about grassroots democracy and economic justice need to have some very serious political discussions."

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Originally Posted by jon1959

Bernie Sanders:

“It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic party which has abandoned working-class people would find that the working class has abandoned them. First, it was the white working class, and now it is Latino and Black workers as well. While the Democratic leadership defends the status quo, the American people are angry and want change. And they’re right....

"Today, despite strong opposition from a majority of Americans, we continue to spend billions funding the extremist Netanyahu government’s all out war against the Palestinian people which has led to the horrific humanitarian disaster of mass malnutrition and the starvation of thousands of children.

"Will the big money interests and well-paid consultants who control the Democratic party learn any real lessons from this disastrous campaign? Will they understand the pain and political alienation that tens of millions of Americans are experiencing? Do they have any ideas as to how we can take on the increasingly powerful oligarchy which has so much economic and political power? Probably not.

"In the coming weeks and months those of us concerned about grassroots democracy and economic justice need to have some very serious political discussions."

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I think he's spot on about the abandoning of the working class. It's been happening for years. Not just abandoned but in some cases actively hostile towards the way people think, their concerns, culture, how they live, even where they eat and drink. It's been happening for years, certainly in the UK, presumably in the US too (I think it started there personally) and across Europe too.

There is a great book on it by the trade unionist Paul Embery.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Despised-Mo.../dp/1509539999

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

I think he's spot on about the abandoning of the working class. It's been happening for years. Not just abandoned but in some cases actively hostile towards the way people think, their concerns, culture, how they live, even where they eat and drink. It's been happening for years, certainly in the UK, presumably in the US too (I think it started there personally) and across Europe too.

There is a great book on it by the trade unionist Paul Embery.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Despised-Mo.../dp/1509539999

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He's a libertarian

Which is exactly what you are and why you have posted a link to his book

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

He's a libertarian

Which is exactly what you are and why you have posted a link to his book

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Thought I was a far-right Tory scum rotter or something?

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Thought I was a far-right Tory scum rotter or something?

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That as well

Right wing libertarians are the maddest of the lot

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

That as well

Right wing libertarians are the maddest of the lot

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Cool, thanks for clarifying 👍

Kamala is finally unburdened by what has been.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59aLtUNBDNU

I see there’s no replies from the right wing stale male loons on here to my post as to why they are supporting a rapist. What a shock.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

You don't have to pick a side and blindly follow them. A better strategy would be to view things from all angles and then work out what is actually going on. I'm not a Trumpist by any means, but when I saw the Russia collusion nonsense I called it out for what it was, and a lot of people didn't like me for that :hehe:

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:hehe:

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Originally Posted by ninian opinian

I see there’s no replies from the right wing stale male loons on here to my post as to why they are supporting a rapist. What a shock.

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Getting old is no fun, but being able to recall what happened in UK and USA elections over a period of sixty years because you were there to see them does provide you with some insight into these things I feel. Yesterday I must admit to being a bit baffled that Trump had gone beyond the 47/48 per cent figure that those apparently in the know were telling us was the limit of what he could achieve, but I'd say it's a truism to believe that when an incumbent party is perceived to have failed on the economy it loses power in the next election I would guess about ninety per cent of the time.

There'll be all sorts of reasons put forward as to why the Democrats lost so heavily, but maybe the answer is the one that usually decides elections - that is, it was principally because they were deemed to have failed a test which has stood since well before my time - did the economy improve under our watch?

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

You don't have to pick a side and blindly follow them. A better strategy would be to view things from all angles and then work out what is actually going on. I'm not a Trumpist by any means, but when I saw the Russia collusion nonsense I called it out for what it was, and a lot of people didn't like me for that :hehe:

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Sludge was talking to TWGL1 about his special skills but if you want to reply instead no harm done I guess!

I must admit to scepticism about the WEF and The Great Reset but I have to admit that Schwab installing his puppet can only mean that the timeline will accelerate from here, right?

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Getting old is no fun, but being able to recall what happened in UK and USA elections over a period of sixty years because you were there to see them does provide you with some insight into these things I feel. Yesterday I must admit to being a bit baffled that Trump had gone beyond the 47/48 per cent figure that those apparently in the know were telling us was the limit of what he could achieve, but I'd say it's a truism to believe that when an incumbent party is perceived to have failed on the economy it loses power in the next election I would guess about ninety per cent of the time.

There'll be all sorts of reasons put forward as to why the Democrats lost so heavily, but maybe the answer is the one that usually decides elections - that is, it was principally because they were deemed to have failed a test which has stood since well before my time - did the economy improve under our watch?

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True, though the few occasions I [and everyone else] has seen Harris speak, it's probably fair to say she sounded like a teacher's assistant talking to 2 yr olds in a nursery. Gaff-prone Biden would have been no worse..

I suppose there's a chance it will not apply by the time all of the votes are counted, but I've just noticed that Trump is around two million votes down on what he got in 2020 - compared to the Democrats though who, at the moment, have lost fourteen million votes in the four years since the last election, it's nothing.

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

I must admit to scepticism about the WEF and The Great Reset but I have to admit that Schwab installing his puppet can only mean that the timeline will accelerate from here, right?

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Don't bring up the timeline, the only person on here with access to it it accidentally put money on Harris to win :facepalm:

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

I suppose there's a chance it will not apply by the time all of the votes are counted, but I've just noticed that Trump is around two million votes down on what he got in 2020 - compared to the Democrats though who, at the moment, have lost fourteen million votes in the four years since the last election, it's nothing.

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I guessed on one of these threads a few weeks ago that the Democrats would be badly hurt by alienated progressive/Arab/Muslim voters abstaining rather than switching to Trump or to one of the third party candidates.

I haven't looked in detail at most of the results, but in Michigan (the swing state that was most likely to punish the Democrats for arming Netanyahu) the Democrat vote was well down, whilst the combined Jill Stern and Cornell West vote was only half of the Republican majority (Kennedy and Chase would not have benefitted from that particular section of the electorate switching).

It looks like a significant part of the Biden vote just stayed at home.

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Originally Posted by jon1959

I guessed on one of these threads a few weeks ago that the Democrats would be badly hurt by alienated progressive/Arab/Muslim voters abstaining rather than switching to Trump or to one of the third party candidates.

I haven't looked in detail at most of the results, but in Michigan (the swing state that was most likely to punish the Democrats for arming Netanyahu) the Democrat vote was well down, whilst the combined Jill Stern and Cornell West vote was only half of the Republican majority (Kennedy and Chase would not have benefitted from that particular section of the electorate switching).

It looks like a significant part of the Biden vote just stayed at home.

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If they stayed at home and didn't vote then I'm not sure how you could identify them as either a Trump or Biden vote..

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

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Intelligent , liberal america 226

Thick rednecks and neo cons 312

Welcome to America !

No thanks

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Originally Posted by jon1959

I guessed on one of these threads a few weeks ago that the Democrats would be badly hurt by alienated progressive/Arab/Muslim voters abstaining rather than switching to Trump or to one of the third party candidates.

I haven't looked in detail at most of the results, but in Michigan (the swing state that was most likely to punish the Democrats for arming Netanyahu) the Democrat vote was well down, whilst the combined Jill Stern and Cornell West vote was only half of the Republican majority (Kennedy and Chase would not have benefitted from that particular section of the electorate switching).

It looks like a significant part of the Biden vote just stayed at home.

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It looks like a majority of the American voting public are either extremely self centered or stupid

Or both

I mean we had a little bit of that over here with the Boris vote but thankfully it didn't last long

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

It looks like a majority of the American voting public are either extremely self centered or stupid

Or both

I mean we had a little bit of that over here with the Boris vote but thankfully it didn't last long

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Spot on Sludge.

Id go further and say anyone who disagrees with your analysis here is probably a nazi. And also smelly.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Spot on Sludge.

Id go further and say anyone who disagrees with your analysis here is probably a nazi. And also smelly.

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Well the world is a better place when feckwit idiots are not in charge

He's a feckwit idiot

And America are welcome to him

Sunak and now Starmer might be a little stupid at times but whilst I clearly wouldn't vote for your boyo rishi he seemed a decent enough bloke

In America they have elected a nutcase

God bless the fruitcakes

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Intelligent , liberal america 226

Thick rednecks and neo cons 312

Welcome to America !

No thanks

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It's a huge mandate to cause unprecedented chaos.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

It's a huge mandate to cause unprecedented chaos.

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Turkeys voting for Xmas

I care not a feck

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

I must admit to scepticism about the WEF and The Great Reset but I have to admit that Schwab installing his puppet can only mean that the timeline will accelerate from here, right?

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I think you need to look up the Hegelian Dialect.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Well the world is a better place when feckwit idiots are not in charge

He's a feckwit idiot

And America are welcome to him

Sunak and now Starmer might be a little stupid at times but whilst I clearly wouldn't vote for your boyo rishi he seemed a decent enough bloke

In America they have elected a nutcase

God bless the fruitcakes

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Racial profiling again there , you think it’s clever , yet another example of your virtue signalling :hehe:

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

Racial profiling again there , you think it’s clever , yet another example of your virtue signalling :hehe:

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Sorry " brains "

The Americans are not a " race "

Your wrong , again

Like last night

Wrong

Still on your arse



God Bless

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

Sorry " brains "

The Americans are not a " race "

Your wrong , again

Like last night

Wrong

Still on your arse



God Bless

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Huh be quiet you virtual signalling life drainer - nice subtle uses of bigotry and racial profiling again.