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TLG has been all guns blazing for Sludge ever since he teased him about not being able to drive :hehe:
To me Rise has been great for the players and has encouraged them to play more naturally. However after a run of good results other sides have got us sussed. Whereas Luton were on times brutal by comparison assisted by a shit referee Blackburn kept our two more clever ball players out of the game. In doing so we looked clueless.
To some extent our shortcomings at forward have been masked by the results but I believe it is now clear that we have to take a different approach. The main problem is that without a centre forward we have no outlet in the final third.
I don’t see Rise being able to get the team into the way of playing that if things look like they’re going tits up they can change the approach.
We need a more experienced manager. Someone who can get a new tune out of our indifferent fiddle. My preference is Tony Mowbray but keep Rise as a coach because he seems to be able to communicate well with the players and they respond to him. But we also need to sort out our defence. On times it’s extremely poor, giving the ball away, not winning second balls. Even ball watching a la Luton.
Tbf Luton are a shit side as Middlesbrough clearly showed. How we lost to them god knows.
Rise isn’t the answer.
No for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Former Labour leader
He got the new manager bounce and showed a glimpse of what might be with sensible progressive tactics, but I suspect that is over now by the looks of it.
Time for a proper manager but it was an interesting experiment.
I love the idea as Riza staying as coaching but just can’t see it, he’s been the manager and the players like him, and they seem to want him to have the job, and he wants the job, I think a new manager keeping him just confuses the lines.Quote:
Originally Posted by light up the darkness
I’m edging this way. At least he knows where it went wrong. Unless it goes pear shaped before Christmas I’d say stick with him for the short term.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
Good post :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by light up the darkness
I say he should be given until Christmas.
What Light up the Darkness said is spot-on. I wonder how Etete will perform, presuming we'll see him on the bench after the International break.
I do have a feeling that the real ITK people know that Riza hasn't got the job, though based on what Rob Phillips was saying and how he structured his conversation on 'Call Rob.'
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Originally Posted by B. Oddie
Give him the job till Xmas, then it's a yes or no
By then he will have been through a few ups and downs and that will be a test of how he might be ax a long term manager
It's utterly stupid hearing our fans jump from he's crap to he's great to we must have a full time appointment ...in just a few weeks
Within the next 2 weeks we should be near enough to a full compliment of players....and the squad like him ....then given we are clearly not in a position to go out and spend money to get 11 new faces ....it makes perfect sense to give him a fair crack of the whip until the Coventry game is out of the way
We really are not an attractive club to manage at present and the idea that people would walk over hot coal to come and sort out the mess here is ridiculous
He's not the messiah but he's done OK.....get this next block of games done and if we are moving away from the death zone give him the gig v
Suggesting that Etete is somehow going to start playing and turn this around is utterly baffling.Quote:
Originally Posted by B. Oddie
He has had enough chances and yet people still think that he’ll succeed here.
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Originally Posted by Carl Dale's Mole
Because they still cling on to the notion he's still 'young and is learning''.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby Dandruff
Personally, I don't think he's got what it takes to be a Championship striker. I hope he proves me wrong, but I just don't see it.
Yes he hit a nerve for sure :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBirchgrovePub
Stick to spider arranging in your attic - :hehe: I'd missed that one, not badQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Etete isnt the answer, sadly. I'd love to be proved wrong though. Personally, I'd prefer Reindorf on the bench than Etete, after the international break. If he Etete, is fully fit that isQuote:
Originally Posted by B. Oddie
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Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five
Etete could easily be a L1 striker. That makes him at the moment a far better option than Kanga.
I don't know if he will succeed in the Championship but until January or until Davies is fit he's a better option than Meite and the continuing to waste a bench position on Kanga is baffling.
I agree Reindorf should also be on the bench.
I think we would almost all like to try Reindorf, but they must know him better than us, especially Purse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68
My arthritic granny could easily be a striker for the local pensioners' zimmer football league. I think that makes her a better option than Kanga.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
We were abysmal under Bulut, the football and results have been a lot better under Riza and Im actually enjoying going again, for the first time in years really.
There's been some poor tactical decisions from him; the subs at Bristol, playing with no striker even when it clearly didnt work the week before and dropping Chambers but on balance Id give him the job until the end of the season. We shouldnt let recency bias cloud our thinking.
I'd take Riza, Robins or Mowbray. I don't fancy Bilic.
It was a good game. We played well at times, and they punished us a bit with good passing through us. However, we agreed that at least we gave it a go and played some nice football. It's a difficult job without a Striker. Let's hope Davies and Robinson aren't out for too long.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cardiff Ultra
He has improved us and should be given more time but the fact that there’s not been one bit of communication from anyone on the board about his position suggests they are not convinced
Dragging their feet again,make up your minds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
I threw Etete's name in the mix because it was mentioned earlier that Colwill and Tanner had no outlet.
yes I'd like to see Etete in a team that manages to get more attackers in the box.Quote:
Originally Posted by B. Oddie
when he's played for us previously he was very isolated (through little fault of his own) and he was on a hiding to nothing.
If Robins fancies the job the club should be doing all they can to bring him in
Saw on Twitter earlier today marks 50 days without a permanent manager
The Etete I remember was very light weight , would get blown over in a gentle breeze.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Lets hope he comes back a rejuvenated speedy centre forward....
That's the Etete I remember too, but he has got a bit of ability. I'd like to see him in the current team given the way they have been trying to play recently. I'm pretty sure he'd be a better option up front than Meite or Kanga. That may not be saying a lot, but if Robinson's going to be in and out of the side, then I reckon Etete's our next best choice, as frustrating as he isQuote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock
I agree with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
Etete also had (last season) a good understanding with Colwill and Tanner. They linked up well.
He looks like the least bad understudy for Robinson.