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No no no…I’ve always been one for adventure, I dint want to know what’s around the corner. Chuck a bag in the van and off I go….the best adventures in life are uncertain when you go….do you mean John Lennon? The guy who got it right about the Beatles being far more important than Jesus?:xmashehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by truthpaste
He’s on fire and it’s great…..:xmasthumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gofer Blue
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwydgjevx70o
Ooof another wrong un
Oh what happened to him? He appears to have disappeared with sgorio fruit at the sametime as their PL status? He was funny, def took a few right wing beatings in the 80’sQuote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
I reckon there will be another resignation soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
Then they will need an interim interim Archbishop of Canterbury!
Actually may be wrong there. David Urguhart is the interim Archbishop of Canterbury although it seems that Steven Cotterill will take over as senior bishop and carry out the official duties Welby would have done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elwood Blues
If Sludge were around at the moment I'm sure he would be bashing the bishop.
That really worked out well for him :frown:Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
Interesting statement. Talk us through your thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by truthpaste
"more popular" were his actual words.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
People who mock God puplicly often regret doing so. John then 26, only went on to live for another 19 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
George Harrison lived to 58 and Ringo and Paul are still around. God is not mocked.
The loving god kills those who mock him?Quote:
Originally Posted by truthpaste
If God had any compassion for Mankind, Then he'd have Got rid of Ringo first.Quote:
Originally Posted by truthpaste
If God had any passion for Mankind He'd launch a rescue Mission to save all of us....Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
And she gave birth to her firstborn son and wrapped him in swaddling cloths and laid him in a manger, because there was no place for them in the inn.
For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him.
Ironically the UK is too busy running to the next Christmas party to notice.
Lennon said that in 1966 and was shot in 1980. So it looks like God is even quicker moving than you thought for killing well loved singers.Quote:
Originally Posted by truthpaste
Thanks Lardy; I was obviously more tired than I thought last night, indeed 14 years isn't very long to live when you are just 26. Lennon was very much loved and extremely talented, but neither of those things have any bearing on our dealings with God. In fact many may say that God granted John all that talent and his 'thank you' was to insult the only one who could save Him, God's Gift to Man.Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
surely the only one who needed to be saved was the gunman.Quote:
Originally Posted by truthpaste
Evil man, Lennon good.
Or some may say that 14 years seems quite long to wait for punishment, and there are plenty of other famous people who have blasphemed without punishment. In fact, Lennon seems to be the only one. Perhaps he was unlucky.Quote:
Originally Posted by truthpaste
The Beatles were not mocking the creation you call God. They were mocking (if that is really the right word) the people who slavishly believe in all that nonsense in the face of genuine love and joy for modern culture. It was a daring and provocative thing to say in that place and at that time, but was more a challenge to deep rooted conservatism than a theological argument. A throw away comment that has resonated for nearly 60 years. And still gets under the right skins!Quote:
Originally Posted by truthpaste
Creation of God! (are you still on that pop?)Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
Each day, throw away comments cost people their jobs, their relationships and sometimes their lives.
Stick to politics, this isn't your field of knowledge.
Good grief! :xmashehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by truthpaste
You mean to say that you think that there are some flaws in his theory that God took revenge on Lennon by engineering an assassin by:Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1959
- putting him in an abusive childhood;
- making sure he was bullied at High School so that he dropped out;
- ensuring he became a born again Presbyterian so he understood the purpose and context of the mission he was chosen for;
- saved him from his attempted suicide by sabotaging the hosepipe and got him regularly sacked from a variety of jobs finally driving him to alcohol abuse to ready him for his task.
Why you can't see this plain truth is beyond me!
Yeah the CIA didn’t like how popular he was, still, he had a pretty good life, albeit tragically cut short.Quote:
Originally Posted by truthpaste
Did god kill him did he?
George was the most spiritual out of all of them…..why did god give him brain cancer? That’s a bastard of a thing to do no?Quote:
Originally Posted by truthpaste
Yes he was more of a stones fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
But they were far more naughty….keith did drugs and stuff once or twice I heardQuote:
Originally Posted by jeepster
Wrong god though. He was therefore anti-Christ according to truthpaste.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
Your assumption is based on this life being the entire scope of life, also God handing out illness and disaster. Neither of these are true.Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
Christ didn't ask us all to become spiritual, He wants us to be honest about ourselves, our plight and our inability to redeem ourselves.
So it is a win win thing for god?Quote:
Originally Posted by truthpaste
If he wants us to be honest and good why do all these priests ( his servants) abuse kids over the last 50/100 years or so?Quote:
Originally Posted by truthpaste
You say "his servants" - why do you make that assumption?Quote:
Originally Posted by goats
He came to die a gruesome death on a Roman cross, if it was all "win win", would you like to go out and have a similar 'win' this afternoon?Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepster
Yes, very interesting. But you were in the middle of telling us how God sanctioned the hit on John Lennon and messed up Mark Chapman's life sufficiently to make sure it happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by truthpaste
God certainly didn't need a hit-man, as you may recall a similar situation we addressed with Mike Dickin, who set up a three hour program to mock Christians and their faith and in that program said if he met God then he'd have a few things to say to him. His wish was granted within 24 hours. No hit man or tragic life story required for his killer.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
If God allowed all the evil men planned to happen, then we would all be in permanent lockdown :xmassherlock:
I am not trying to get people to follow me.Quote:
Originally Posted by truthpaste
Your god has obviously made us unable to redeem ourselves and has deemed that even those who believe in him are sinners from birth.Quote:
Originally Posted by truthpaste
The stick before the carrot of everlasting life, of course. Amusing.
You seem to relish all these deaths,i thought your faith was about love and forgiveness.Quote:
Originally Posted by truthpaste
As i say win win.
Ah, so most of the time there is an interception of evil that goes unoticed but for the public god mockers they have it coming either within 24 hours or other indeterminate time periods.Quote:
Originally Posted by truthpaste
Life is already eternal. Think on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie
Nah, I don't thonk that the billions of people who have ever lived on the Earth exist elsewhere, whether it be your hell or your heaven - and only a minority ever believed in your god and in your particular brand thereof. Evidence seems to indicate that Homo Sapiens evolved around 3,000 years ago and way before your fairy stories were ever thought of and written down. Your god has been spectacularly successful in getting over only the tiniest sliver of humanity to escape the worst come Judgement Day.Quote:
Originally Posted by truthpaste
You think that people 2,000 years ago (and let's also remember that the books in the Bible were collated, edited and amended by human beings) have the answers for everything when they had no idea about DNA, atoms, gluons, muons, plate tectonics, blood groups, electricity, what caused lightning, radio signals, the speed of light, radiation, genetic mutation, evolution etc etc. On the other hand, we are expected to believe about people supposedly being turned to salt, water being turned into wine, Eve being created from Adam's rib, a talking donkey, a virgin birth, the existence of Nephilim, Enosh living over 900 years, demons being driven out of Mary Magdalen etc etc etc.
They had no idea about the science that could result in motorised vehicles, aircarft, computerisation, space travel, MRI scans, x-rays, transplants, televison, nuclear power, photography, modern medicine, innoculation, chemotherapy, GPS and a lot else.
They didn't even know the full extent of our own planet as regards all the continents that existed.
It's very difficult to understand how intelligent people in the 21st century can believe in such myths...... but indictrination is an incredible thing.