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Re: Riza sacked. Aaron Ramsey takes charge
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
I instinctively balk at claims to be “in the know”, but I reckon he could well be right about a toxic atmosphere within the club here - the decision to get rid of people like Purse, Shaw and Ramasut poses a lot of questions.
This guy talks and talks and talks, and makes all sorts of claims week in, week out. How many of them prove to be accurate?
He's also very pally with Abbandonato. I wouldn't mind betting that's where he gets half of his 'inside info' from.
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Re: Riza sacked. Aaron Ramsey takes charge
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
I instinctively balk at claims to be “in the know”, but I reckon he could well be right about a toxic atmosphere within the club here - the decision to get rid of people like Purse, Shaw and Ramasut poses a lot of questions.
https://www.youtube.com/live/pWiDb8I...qHovMGUAG1Dh5I
I can imagine the players week in week out saying to themselves 'this isn't working', but all Riza kept doing was change personnel every game in the hope it would. They may have had no strong views on him earlier on but in the last 3 months I'm betting they've collectively concluded he's utterly clueless and not worth respect..
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Re: Riza sacked. Aaron Ramsey takes charge
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
This guy talks and talks and talks, and makes all sorts of claims week in, week out. How many of them prove to be accurate?
He's also very pally with Abbandonato. I wouldn't mind betting that's where he gets half of his 'inside info' from.
There's loads of rumours and chatter re callum robinson and why he wasn't in the squad yesterday. I'm sure we all saw the stories about him squaring up to riza and storming out of the changing room after the stoke game? Let's see if he's in the squad on Monday.
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Re: Riza sacked. Aaron Ramsey takes charge
it could well be that the club were forced into action to quell the call for protest from the other messageboard, apparently there are plans to stage a large scale protest outside the main entrance of the stadium before the next home game against Oxford, how that helps at this point I don't know..
on a positive note (I like to look at the positives) wherever we end up next season Mr Riza will not be at the helm.
🙂
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Re: Riza sacked. Aaron Ramsey takes charge
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
I instinctively balk at claims to be “in the know”, but I reckon he could well be right about a toxic atmosphere within the club here - the decision to get rid of people like Purse, Shaw and Ramasut poses a lot of questions.
https://www.youtube.com/live/pWiDb8I...qHovMGUAG1Dh5I
I can imagine the players week in week out saying to themselves 'this isn't working', but all Riza kept doing was change personnel every game in the hope it would. They may have had no strong views on him earlier on but in the last 3 months I'm betting they've collectively concluded he's utterly clueless and not worth respect..
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2 absolute clowns now, well, should i include slade, harris, trollope :hehe: jeesus the list goes on and on
i dont really give 2 shyts who comes in now, the players are just as much to blame, they have been shocking
wouldnt make a difference if warnock or alex fergusson walked in for the last few games... fkin ronaldo couldnt score a goal in this team
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Re: Riza sacked. Aaron Ramsey takes charge
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Originally Posted by
Father Dougal
There's loads of rumours and chatter re callum robinson and why he wasn't in the squad yesterday. I'm sure we all saw the stories about him squaring up to riza and storming out of the changing room after the stoke game? Let's see if he's in the squad on Monday.
Wasn't he rumoured to have had a falling out with Bulut too?
Rumours, rumours, rumours. But if Robinson wasn't injured and if he went out on the town on Thursday night (another rumour), then that speaks volumes about him as much as his former manager.
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Re: Riza sacked. Aaron Ramsey takes charge
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Originally Posted by
The Bloop
Netflix have missed out on a cracking series by not following the club's goings on this season.
We'll probably escape now with Horvath scoring in added time at Carrow Road.
LUMP ON!
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Just had a quick look on derby forums.
General feeling has gone from they couldn't see how we would win any more games to now being absolutely certain we will win on Monday and stay up with the new manager bounce.
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Re: Riza sacked. Aaron Ramsey takes charge
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Originally Posted by
Father Dougal
Just had a quick look on derby forums.
General feeling has gone from they couldn't see how we would win any more games to now being absolutely certain we will win on Monday and stay up with the new manager bounce.
There's nothing like expert opinion...
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Re: Riza sacked. Aaron Ramsey takes charge
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
There's nothing like expert opinion...
Touché.
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Re: Riza sacked. Aaron Ramsey takes charge
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
Well that's a relief. Putting Ramsey in charge without Bellamy's blessing simply wouldn't have been acceptable.
:hehe: :hehe: :hehe:
he's referring to Bellamy's blessing of Gunter joining the dugout team.
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Re: Riza sacked. Aaron Ramsey takes charge
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Originally Posted by
A Quiet Monkfish
I can imagine the players week in week out saying to themselves 'this isn't working', but all Riza kept doing was change personnel every game in the hope it would. They may have had no strong views on him earlier on but in the last 3 months I'm betting they've collectively concluded he's utterly clueless and not worth respect..
Yes, I think you’re probably right there. Using Joel Bagan as an example, he had a bit of a wobble a few games ago, but, generally, he’s been one of our better defenders this season, yet he’s hardly been used in the last month. He left Ashford out for four or five games when he’d played a big part in bringing about the run of improved results only a few weeks earlier.
The longer he was in the job, the more uncertain Riza became and the more cautious he became tactically. Becoming more cautious was understandable to a degree given how we were defending, but it didn’t bring about any improvement in that part of the game and the big improvements in attacking play we saw when he first took over had long gone by the time he was sacked.
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Re: Riza sacked. Aaron Ramsey takes charge
Who was responsible for Richard Shaw. Brought in as defensive coach. Our defence has been shambolic. A complete failure to have any sort of settled defence or partnerships.
Of course Shaw will have his version.
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Re: Riza sacked. Aaron Ramsey takes charge
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
It's all a bit weird. Darren Purse, a former captain who made 115 (+8) appearances for the club and scored 12 goals, is the subject of scorn and derision in some quarters, while Aaron Ramsey, who made a total of 35 (+16) appearances for the club and scored 6 goals during three separate spells, is seen as a legend.
I get that Ramsey is viewed as something special because he was produced by the club and went on to have a career at the top level, but why such stick for Purse?
I'm not entirely sure why Purse gets stick either. I think the 'other board' had an agenda against him, because the U21s went through a really lean time under Purse's leadership in the early days.
For a while I was non-plussed about Purse as a player. However, two incidents stood out in my mind which eventually endeared him to me.
The first was a game at Ninian Park, during which nothing was going right for him, he was playing as if his laces had been tied together.
Suddenly, we were awarded a penalty... Purse sprinted 40-50 yards, grabbed the ball and scored!
A lesser person would have shyed away from the responsibility. I think (I might be wrong) we won the game as a result of the penalty?
The second incident that got me liking him was when a rather overzealous referee instructed Purse to remove his wedding ring moments before kick-off. Even though the ring was taped up, the ref wasn't having it. Purse chose not to play, rather than take off his wedding ring. A man of true values and priorities in my opinion. I seem to recall he had the support of Dave Jones at that time.
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Re: Riza sacked. Aaron Ramsey takes charge
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
What's his status?
A favourite son of Cardiff City
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Re: Riza sacked. Aaron Ramsey takes charge
I met Purse a few times while he was playing here. If he wasn't in the team at away games, he'd often be alongside his family in the away end. He always came across as a really genuine guy. The vitriolic stick he gets in some quarters baffles me, especially as he was someone who always gave his all when playing for us.
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Re: Riza sacked. Aaron Ramsey takes charge
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
It's all a bit weird. Darren Purse, a former captain who made 115 (+8) appearances for the club and scored 12 goals, is the subject of scorn and derision in some quarters, while Aaron Ramsey, who made a total of 35 (+16) appearances for the club and scored 6 goals during three separate spells, is seen as a legend.
I get that Ramsey is viewed as something special because he was produced by the club and went on to have a career at the top level, but why such stick for Purse?
Stick for Purse, Ramusut and co is because we never see any evidence on the pitch of anything these guys have worked on during the week.
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Originally Posted by
delmbox
A favourite son of Cardiff City
Legend. Don't forget legend.
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Re: Riza sacked. Aaron Ramsey takes charge
If a Darren Purse or Sean Morrison was in the side I don’t think we’d be in this mess.
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Re: Riza sacked. Aaron Ramsey takes charge
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
I met Purse a few times while he was playing here. If he wasn't in the team at away games, he'd often be alongside his family in the away end. He always came across as a really genuine guy. The vitriolic stick he gets in some quarters baffles me, especially as he was someone who always gave his all when playing for us.
I'm not on twitter , Facebook etc . Does Purse get vitriolic stick. I dont think I've ever seen it on here.?
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Re: Riza sacked. Aaron Ramsey takes charge
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
I met Purse a few times while he was playing here. If he wasn't in the team at away games, he'd often be alongside his family in the away end. He always came across as a really genuine guy. The vitriolic stick he gets in some quarters baffles me, especially as he was someone who always gave his all when playing for us.
If only we could have had someone of Purse's character and commitment during this season.
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Re: Riza sacked. Aaron Ramsey takes charge
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
I'm not on twitter , Facebook etc . Does Purse get vitriolic stick. I dont think I've ever seen it on here.?
Try the 'other board'.
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
I'm not on twitter , Facebook etc . Does Purse get vitriolic stick. I dont think I've ever seen it on here.?
Never once
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Originally Posted by
Rock_Flock_of_Five
If only we could have had someone of Purse's character and commitment during this season.
The thing we have missed more than anything.
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Originally Posted by
Hilts
I'm not on twitter , Facebook etc . Does Purse get vitriolic stick. I dont think I've ever seen it on here.?
In this very thread regarding Purse, Ramusat and Shaw: "****ed off hopefully and when they get there hope they **** off a little further."
Purse gets grief on the other board.
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When Riza announced who does what Ramasut was named as the defensive coach
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the Welsh rugby team are struggling right now, i'm pretty confident Darren Purse could coach them on how to tackle.
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Re: Riza sacked. Aaron Ramsey takes charge
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Originally Posted by
Wash DC Blue
If a Darren Purse or Sean Morrison was in the side I don’t think we’d be in this mess.
I'm not so sure.
After all, they're both getting on a bit.
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Re: Riza sacked. Aaron Ramsey takes charge
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
Ridiculous, if they were looking for a change, it should have been done straight after the Stoke game.
Yet again, the real cause of our problems has taken his duff managerial appointments record to eight out of eleven and I’m being generous there by not grading Slade or Harris as duff.
Why wouldn’t you?
Slades signings were probably the worst the club has seen.
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Re: Riza sacked. Aaron Ramsey takes charge
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
Why wouldn’t you?
Slades signings were probably the worst the club has seen.
That's debatable.
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Re: Riza sacked. Aaron Ramsey takes charge
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Originally Posted by
bobh
I'm not so sure.
After all, they're both getting on a bit.
I’d still take them over Daland.
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Re: Riza sacked. Aaron Ramsey takes charge
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news...ke-final-games
Cardiff City FC can confirm that a decision has been taken to relieve Omer Riza of his duties as First Team Manager.
Aaron Ramsey will lead the Club for the remaining three games of the Sky Bet Championship season, beginning with Monday’s match at home to Oxford United.
Chris Gunter, Joe Ralls, Tom Hutton and Matthew Bloxham will join Aaron in the technical area.
We’d like to thank Omer for his passion and effort during his time as Cardiff City manager and wish him the very best for his next steps in the game.
Way too late, at least a month
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Re: Riza sacked. Aaron Ramsey takes charge
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
This is incredible.
3 games to go and they bring in someone in with even less experience than Riza
Who the f else would even take it? We just need someone to install some belief and organisation
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Re: Riza sacked. Aaron Ramsey takes charge
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Originally Posted by
jeepster
He can'tdo any worse.
He can.
We didn’t look that bad yesterday.
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Re: Riza sacked. Aaron Ramsey takes charge
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
Why wouldn’t you?
Slades signings were probably the worst the club has seen.
Lee Peltier? Bruno Manga?
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Re: Riza sacked. Aaron Ramsey takes charge
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
Lee Peltier? Bruno Manga?
Ole signed manga?
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Re: Riza sacked. Aaron Ramsey takes charge
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Originally Posted by
The Lone Gunman
Well that's a relief. Putting Ramsey in charge without Bellamy's blessing simply wouldn't have been acceptable.
:hehe: :hehe: :hehe:
I'm sure the reference to Bellamy's approval was talking about Gunter's appointment. Hoovered, I expect you knew that and were just trying to be funny.
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Re: Riza sacked. Aaron Ramsey takes charge
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
Lee Peltier? Bruno Manga?
I don’t think Manga was
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Re: Riza sacked. Aaron Ramsey takes charge
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
Why wouldn’t you?
Slades signings were probably the worst the club has seen.
Feels a little harsh, he didn't make that many and they were all on the cheap. He was having to compensate for the massive overspending seen under Ole