My thoughts exactly. He just doesn't have the legs anymore, and is just too injury prone.Quote:
Originally Posted by PontBlue
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My thoughts exactly. He just doesn't have the legs anymore, and is just too injury prone.Quote:
Originally Posted by PontBlue
Totally agree. I don't think anyone who is out of contract should be offered a new one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five
Birmingham are after Salech apparently.
they can **** offQuote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
They paid 15m for Stansfield, so £30m starting bidQuote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
Wrexham supposedly interested in Tanner and Davies, but not Robinson as previously rumoured.
I'd take 30m for Salech, that's the price for a half-decent Premiership striker like Muniz. But no way Birmingham go that high, 15m is high for a Championship player.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
Only thing is, I don't trust this ownership to spend the money responsibly.
Depends on what they offer. They aren't lines in the sand to not get rid of outside of an insane offer like Salech or Robertson, but I don't particularly want to lose them for a paltry sum, Davies especially.Quote:
Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland
Tanner is in that Wintle camp of me being not sure what to make of him. He can come in clutch sometimes, but often can become a passenger and get outclassed.
Money upfront, fee for every episode the player appears in their doc, more money on appearances, a meeting set up for Tan and co to learn from their owners.Quote:
Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland
We will get a meh fee, some disney+ subscriptions and a Ryan Reynolds signed deadpool t-shirt.
yeah I'd take a sensible offer for Tanner. he's probably on a low wage though and usually delivers in local derbies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coyote
maybe the new manager should just tell him we are playing Swansea or Bristol every week
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Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
What we don`t know is which of our players still under contract have told the club they want to stay and which have said they want to leave rather than drop down to League 1 level.
For the latter group then I believe the club should say OK you can go but only if your agent gets the club a very good transfer fee offer. They are under contract and the club doesn`t otherwise have to let them go, but we want players who want to be here and who will give their all on the fields rather than "down tools" like a Keiffer Moore.
I would love to keep Salech if possible as he should be great at League 1 level and enhance our chances of an immediate bounce back to the Championship, provided we reinvest the money from the players who want to leave into new signings who can be leaders on the field (we will need players of the Morrison and Kavanagh type to be physically and mentally strong who will also bring the best out of the younger players around them).
Before we talk about players we actually need a management and coaching set up whatever that is.
We also need a huge boardroom shake up. But it seems it's going to remain unchanged which is a recipe for further struggles.
This was my worry, and why I'm not paying for a season ticket, or probably even attending any of the games this season. I want to starve out Tan however I can into selling the club. The ineptitude is off the charts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
Players in the club and any who come in will have been coached since they were 8yr olds. For me it's the recruitment that has screwed this club. Bulut, Riza, Ramsey, all failed to get a winning side on the pitch with this squad. Whoever our super -wonderful new manager is, he's going to have exactly the same problem..Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
It's almost as if this is a director of football's job. I wonder who our director of football is. Anyone?Quote:
Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish
If anyone pays £30m for Salech they want their head examined.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
I’d be surprised if we make much of a profit if any on Salech. With the new rules on not spending more than 60% of income on wages, I can see a fire sale of any players we can to fund the expensive wages of players that we can’t get rid off (Chambers, Willock, Daaland)
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Originally Posted by PontBlue
24-25 season, 23 gamesQuote:
Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five
23-24 season, 35 games
22-23 season, 43 games
21-22 season, 29 games
20-21 season, 40 games
for a old bloke, he isnt doing to badly
How many of those games in the last two seasons (I can't be bothered to look) were just cameo appearances?Quote:
Originally Posted by blue matt
Okay, I decided not to be lazy by leaving the research to others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five
So, here we go....
Joe Ralls featured in 22 Championship games for the 2024/25 season.
Of those games, he started 11.
He played the full-90 minutes 5 times.
He's been a great servant to the club, no doubting.
However, it's a two-way thing. Ralls hasn't had to keep up-rooting his family, moving to far corners of the country, living out of a suitcase in hotels, like so many other professional footballers have had to do. He's never been faced with the challenge of trying to win over a new set of fans (like Peter Whittingham had to at Blackburn).
We can't be nostalgic. His time has come I'm afraid.
Dalman's said he expects 5 or 6 of the out of contract players to leave and that the squad probably needs to come down to about 25 or 26. Expecting a few more to not fancy L1 plus 3 or 4 to come in, maybe experienced L1 players. Also said we don't need to sell our best players to balance the books.
25-26 is reasonable for a good squad, with youth to cover any gaps that arise as the season progresses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland
Here's what I'd personally have
Goalkeepers: Alnwick, Turner, HORVATH REPLACEMENT
Defence: Rinomhota, Kpakio , Fish, Lawlor, Bagan, 2 NEW DEFENDERS, ONE WELL-ROUNDED TO COVER EVERY DEFENSIVE ROLE, THE OTHER A VETERAN PREFERABLY IN CB
Midfield: Robertson, Ralls, R Colwill, J Colwill, King, 2 NEW MIDFIELDERS, ONE FOR CDM ROLE AND ONE FOR CM/CAM ROLE PLAYMAKING
Wingers: O'Dowda, Ashford, Tanner, WILLOCK REPLACEMENT, I LIKE POKU PERSONALLY
Strikers: Salech, Davies, Simic, Reindorf
About 5-6 signings would be sufficient.
Very similar to my list.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coyote
The club has to finalise which out of contract players are being given new contracts are which aren't by Saturday. Should have the manager's input in that really but that's not going to happen. Risks keeping players the new boss doesn't want and letting go ones he would have done, although most decisions are probably pretty clear cut to be fair.
West Brom want Salech https://www.westbromnews.co.uk/2025/...g-summer-deal/
remind them about Ken Zohore, that should make them think twice.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninian opinian
Salech will go. Hopefully there's a bidding war.
Stand firm on this one, unless they're willing to throw 15m or something at us.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninian opinian
Ethan Horvath leaving according to The Athletic
https://x.com/lhenry019/status/1924518884964479090
Not a surprise. His first half-season (23/24) here was solid, but he never fully recovered after that Turf Moor error, which is one of the absolute worst goalkeeping mistakes I have ever seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
He's not a bad keeper, but I don't think it's worked out, let's fetch an OK price for him and find another.
That will be down to the club, although Salech could sulk and force a move, which would be a bit of a shitty thing to do, although i wouldn't blame him lf he did. Money talks in professional sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hilts
He doesn't seem like the kind of person to sulk from what I've seen of him so far. Circumstances could change of course, but I think he's got a good morale and mindset for the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
How have you worked that out from watching him kick a ball around?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coyote
he seemed genuinely upset at the final whistle when we were relegatedQuote:
Originally Posted by Harry Paget Flashman
Probably a big fat survival bonus in his contract, i'd be ****ing suicidal.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
yeah fair pointQuote:
Originally Posted by Tuerto
I'll also say he was the one who ran into the stands to check on the fan having a serious medical episode at the Stoke game, so he's earned a lot of good will with me outside of his performances too. So I'm going to take his word on stuff as it stands.
Maybe relegation hasn't been a total disaster...Quote:
Originally Posted by City123
Every cloud...Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
Re. Salech, I think realistically the club would accept £6-7 million up front and another £2-3 million in add ons, which would put him within the reach of a fair few Championship clubs.
McBurney has left Gran Caneria looking for a return to the EFL.. He could do a job for us.
😂😂😂
I think there's probably a difference between what we think he's worth and what other clubs are willing to commit to based on 6 months of evidence at this level.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cardiff Ultra
there have been lots of players who have had a great 6 months in the championship and then done nothing to back it up.
whereas if he has 15-20 goals at that level for one or more seasons then he'd probably be valued at 15-20 million.
I'd say from the clubs point of view it would be much better to keep him than accept a £5 or so bid that we might get this summer