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Spot on Bob, the impression is being given that it’s only since Rita was dismissed that the process started,if that’s true ( surely not) then it displays a depth of incompetence that should strike us as staggering, unfortunately that seems to be a way of doing things which has inevitably led to us being in the position we are today.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
Obviously, as quickly as possible, three weeks is the max they should take, but get it right, there is still a lot of choice, if they don't take too long.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bloop
I think it's a positive that they are getting help, and it SOUNDS like they are trying to be thorough. Let's see what they come up with, I'm just glad it's not those three trying to do it alone.
This article is from when they hired Omer Riza. Sound familiar? Nothing is changing, as per usual, it is more waffle from Dalman.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...ormer-30021069
What’s the rush? It’ll be cheaper to wait until August to install a new manger, and in the meantime Tan can just instruct the current staff to use pre season to practice shooting from our own half.
They're getting help to create a shortlist of applicants for interview. The current board will be the ones doing the interviews and making a recommendation to Tan. The lucky winner will then be working under the existing structures. Nothing is changing long-term.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
I hope they follow the guidance from people in the know, although based on previous appointments, you are probably correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bloop
Yes, it does. Something is wrong, it seems like they are at least trying and someone is making the decisions while ignoring the guidence, let us see what comes of this and decide then if it worked or was the usual flannel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
I'm comforted by the hope that there shouldn't be any more Riza's on the shortlist, but after that, who knows.Quote:
Originally Posted by North Cardiff Blue
It read....Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
Cardiff City have detailed how they will hire Erol Bulut's successor, with the help of an external football agency and two former managers..
So pretty much the same process that brought us Omer Riza. I think I'm probably alone in thinking this is a completely cack handed approach to what should be a straight forward, simple process for any football club.
The problems here are, if we had in house football expertise, we would not have been using this arrangement then and those outlined in Walesonline yesterday for the current situation. Sadly, we don’t so setting up new recruitment arrangements involving external expertise is not a problem imho. However, the problem is our owner and his tame mouthpiece Ken Choo. Apparently, he ignored the recommendations of the “experts” first time around and he appointed Riza for the rest of the season. If Tan does the same thing this time then we are in big trouble. Dalman is not the problem here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
Think you have a good point thereQuote:
Originally Posted by Trigger
Would Giggs get the same level of respect from City players that he seemed to get from the Welsh squad?
He is a significant part of the problem insofar as he maintains the status quo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Mort
He is part-time, lacks football knowledge, has helped oversee a pathetic period of failure - yet still acts as if he knows what he is doing.
He is not. Nor is Choo.
They should resign, but they won’t. And Tan won’t sack them for some bizarre reason.
According to this article https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...int_source=nba
Tan has sacked the KV Kortrijk CEO. It doesn't name him, but I thought Ken Choo was the CEO there as well as Cardiff
Well, yes, you are correct. Perhaps I should have said that Dalman was not the “real” problem - that is Tan. Choo is never going to resign as he was appointed to look after VT’s interests in this country. He is Tan’s yes man and will retain his position at CCFC and HR Owen as long as Tan requires him to be there. If Dalman offers his resignation then I assume he will want his £30m back so that’s not straightforward. Who the 2 mysterious Malaysian are and what contribution they make to the running of the Club I have no idea but I’m sure Tan has appointed them for a reason. Borley is in business with Tan so they may be partially joined at the hip. That’s the Board in its entirety- Nothing is straightforwardQuote:
Originally Posted by Crisp White Lines
They seem to have a position they call CEO Sports, which is different from CEO. It's not a DOF role either as they also have a Football Director. Choo is their CEO, which obviously he has lots of time for as well as being our CEO and CEO of HR Owen luxury cars!Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardM
I assume that all these cars are in London and they'd have to ship them down if you wanted a viewing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland
Anyone tempted? 😊
https://www.hrowen.co.uk/locations/h...-cars-cardiff/
I think so. Enough water under enough bridges for a fresh start - particularly if it was a positive one!Quote:
Originally Posted by stevo
Article claiming that Michael Beale "is now the leading candidate to take the Cardiff job this summer".
Also claims that Mark Allen (who it describes as being employed by Wasserman) could become technical director.
https://eflanalysis.com/news/leading...ll-be-shocked/
Michael Beale.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thankfully that's not reflected in the markets.
I dread to think who the clowns will have on the shortlist. Page? Beale? Steve Evans?
Ruben Selles is available
Says he had a poor brief spell at Sunderland. He got 4 wins in 12 there, for us that would be a massive improvement :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Undercoverinwurzelland
I'd take Selles.
If Michael Beale gets announced I think I might just take up golf on Saturdays. And I don't even like golf.
weren't people on here clamouring for him a coupe of years ago?Quote:
Originally Posted by FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead
I think we need to be realistic. The club is in hell of a mess. Would any quality manager risk his reputation on a lower league club, in the mess we find ourselves? We need someone who knows this division well, because recruitment will require players who know this division well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
I can't speak for that, but outside that initial few months with QPR, he's done absolutely nothing of note as a manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Seems like a weird bloke too, arguing with Sunderland fans on Twitter through a burner account, and slagging them off in press conferences.
Actually he'd be perfect for us.
I was advocating Beale as our manager a few years back before he got the QPR job, because there was only his record in football to go by then and it was very impressive at the time. However, what you talk about in your second paragraph, together with his record since leaving QPR has me wondering why on earth we'd be interested in. him? - Suppose he'd be cheap, something which is very important to Vincent Tan based on mosr of our previous appointments with him in charge..Quote:
Originally Posted by FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead
Gerrard in to 5/1 from 12/1, yes I know it doesn’t take a lot to move that price in the Manager markets, but could be something. Might speak of this Mark Allen as DOF, think I read they worked together at Rangers.
If Beale, Gerrard or Rooney get the job, I'm just going to stop watching because my blood pressure will spike to cardiac arrest levels.
Well I won’t stop watching, but I don’t want either of them here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coyote
I thought you were boycotting anyway?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coyote
Bloody hell, irony is not dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman
I don't know. New[ish] stadium, great city to live in, excellent potential - I reckon the club will have no problem attracting a decent manager. Whether they appoint one is another thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pug
I don't agree with that last statement at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pug
"knowing the division" is one of the biggest fallacies in British football.
We'll be the biggest club in the division by a country mile.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pug
Bolton averaged 21k last season which is more than we did in the league above.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
I certainly wouldn't say we were a country mile above them in any sensible metric of "largeness".
Yes Cardiff is a bigger city than Bolton, but that's about it.
they have a more impressive history, more fans turning up, and greater revenues due to money they receive from commercial rents etc.
Charlton and Huddersfield also have decent crowds, and it remains to be seen what ours will do.
We're one of the bigger sides for sure, but no way are we a country mile bigger than anyone else - and bigger clubs than us have gone down previously and not had it their own way
Think you maybe in for a rude awakening.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
I didn't say we'd be any good :hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cleve van Leef
We'll get a good manager wanting to come here, that's my point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
I'd stand by my point about our size.
Yeah we're not a terrible prospect to an ambitious manager at this level.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa
the owner typically backs the manager pretty well.
We will need a full coaching staff as well though.
Presumably Luton will start the season as bookies favourites with the parachute money they'll still be getting, but after them we've got to be in the next bunch of teams along with Plymouth, Bolton, Reading and the teams from the playoffs.