Police commissioner requests 'immediate review' of decision to ban Maccabi Tel Aviv fans

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Considering the coverage the Aston Villa ban has been given, the news this evening about the abandonment of the Tel Aviv derby game should be headline news on the BBC’s news and sports pages. So far the story hasn’t appeared on either. No surprise there.

I don’t usually buy into the criticism of the BBC, but the bias of their coverage in recent months has been ****ing disgraceful.

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The game was due to take place last night, Mr Icke

It's on the front page or the BBC news website this morning!

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Originally Posted by Coyote

And we know the government are under pressure from donors and the ultra-capitalist class.

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Do we?

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

The game was due to take place last night, Mr Icke

It's on the front page or the BBC news website this morning!

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When I posted my message there was nothing at all on the BBC website, Mr Farage. The game had been postponed more than two hours earlier. The report eventually appeared around a quarter of an hour later.

Alternative politics board stuff

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

When I posted my message there was nothing at all on the BBC website, Mr Farage. The game had been postponed more than two hours earlier. The report eventually appeared around a quarter of an hour later.

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Two hours on a Sunday night for updates from the Israeli Premier League! BBC sort it out! 😉

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Two hours on a Sunday night for updates from the Israeli Premier League! BBC sort it out! 😉

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Oddly enough Boris, the rest of the major news outlets were carrying reports within minutes of the game being cancelled. But it took the BBC more than two hours to report it, and when they eventually did their report was initially tucked away at the bottom of their football pages. Curious considering the extensive headline coverage they’d given every aspect of the decision to ban Maccabi Tel Aviv fans from the Villa game earlier in the week.

As I’ve said, I’m not someone who normally knocks the BBC, but there is no doubt whatsoever that their coverage has had a distinct bias in recent months.

So, how do you feel about the Villa ban now? Do you still believe the authorities should bend over backwards and spend large sums of public money to accommodate the Israeli hooligans in Birmingham?

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Oddly enough Boris, the rest of the major news outlets were carrying reports within minutes of the game being cancelled. But it took the BBC more than two hours to report it, and when they eventually did their report was initially tucked away at the bottom of their football pages. Curious considering the extensive headline coverage they’d given every aspect of the decision to ban Maccabi Tel Aviv fans from the Villa game earlier in the week.

As I’ve said, I’m not someone who normally knocks the BBC, but there is no doubt whatsoever that their coverage has had a distinct bias in recent months.

So, how do you feel about the Villa ban now? Do you still believe the authorities should bend over backwards and spend large sums of public money to accommodate the Israeli hooligans in Birmingham?

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The BBC is typically slower with such stories. You will always see it on Twitter first, then the Mail. The BBC tends to be a little more cautious.

Umm, yeah. I think football fans should be able to watch their teams and the police should be able to mitigate for it. Moreover, as a country I think we should be able to prove that they can attend, be made welcome and it can pass peacefully.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

The BBC is typically slower with such stories. You will always see it on Twitter first, then the Mail. The BBC tends to be a little more cautious.

Umm, yeah. I think football fans should be able to watch their teams and the police should be able to mitigate for it. Moreover, as a country I think we should be able to prove that they can attend, be made welcome and it can pass peacefully.

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Does the freedom of football fans to watch a match outweigh the freedom of innocent people to go about their peaceful business without being physically attacked?

Given that said football fans can easily watch the match on television this seems a limp cause to promote.

Stephen Yaxley-Lennon (after his state-sponsored Israel visit) plans to be in Birmingham on 6 November to support Maccabi Tel-Aviv!

https://www.thecanary.co/trending/20...dmarsdn8syijsb

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

Umm, yeah. I think football fans should be able to watch their teams and the police should be able to mitigate for it. Moreover, as a country I think we should be able to prove that they can attend, be made welcome and it can pass peacefully.

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I don't. I can see no logical reason for the UK welcoming a bunch of thugs from the Middle East. We have enough of our own as it is.

It's a game of football lads.

They haven't been banned by FIFA or UEFA for the match. Whoever made the initial decision has turned this into a story that nobody otherwise would be talking about.

Most people probably didn't know or give a **** that villa are playing some Israeli team.

Just another instance of the weak police bending the knee to pressure from their Islamic overlords. Awful. When even bloody keir shows some spine you know the initial decision was a bad one.

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Originally Posted by Trigger

It's a game of football lads.

They haven't been banned by FIFA or UEFA for the match. Whoever made the initial decision has turned this into a story that nobody otherwise would be talking about.

Most people probably didn't know or give a **** that villa are playing some Israeli team.

Just another instance of the weak police bending the knee to pressure from their Islamic overlords. Awful. When even bloody keir shows some spine you know the initial decision was a bad one.

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Triggered? :hehe:

It's just High Jinks

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Originally Posted by jon1959

From the never reported British Jews who support the ban - and demonstrate against genocide in Palestine:

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org...cles-for-you_1

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The Campaign Against Antisemitism (CAA), a volunteer charity, described 'Jewish Voice for Labour' as an "antisemitism-denial group" and a "sham Jewish representative organisation".

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Originally Posted by Rock_Flock_of_Five

The Campaign Against Antisemitism (CAA), a volunteer charity, described 'Jewish Voice for Labour' as an "antisemitism-denial group" and a "sham Jewish representative organisation".

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Jewish Voice for Labour (now Jewish Voice for Liberation) have a very uncomplimentary view of the the pro-Israel lobby group Campaign Against Antisemitism too!

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org...-no-such-thing

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Originally Posted by jon1959

Jewish Voice for Labour (now Jewish Voice for Liberation) have a very uncomplimentary view of the the pro-Israel lobby group Campaign Against Antisemitism too!

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org...-no-such-thing

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Well, no surprise there that JVL are a bit miffed by a group who are calling them out.

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Originally Posted by Trigger

Just another instance of the weak police bending the knee to pressure from their Islamic overlords.

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:hehe: :hehe: :hehe:

What a world we're living in right now. Incredible.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

I don't. I can see no logical reason for the UK welcoming a bunch of thugs from the Middle East. We have enough of our own as it is.

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I mean, the people of Swansea would say the exact same about us. I'm sure many in Glasgow would rather fans be banned from away games and I suspect a pretty penny was spent on policing Liverpool v Man United yesterday.

As an aside - and I freely admit that Maccabi Tel Aviv have their share of thugs - but every video I have seen from yesterday involves Hapoel Tel Aviv (who play in red and white) who are their rivals, and were the home side. Just an observation that is. I don't doubt Maccabi fans contributed to the chaos, as these things are very seldom one sided.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

I mean, the people of Swansea would say the exact same about us.

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Not sure if you're aware of this, but Cardiff is in South Wales as opposed to the Middle East.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

I mean, the people of Swansea would say the exact same about us. I'm sure many in Glasgow would rather fans be banned from away games and I suspect a pretty penny was spent on policing Liverpool v Man United yesterday.

As an aside - and I freely admit that Maccabi Tel Aviv have their share of thugs - but every video I have seen from yesterday involves Hapoel Tel Aviv (who play in red and white) who are their rivals, and were the home side. Just an observation that is. I don't doubt Maccabi fans contributed to the chaos, as these things are very seldom one sided.

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Up until very recently away fans have been banned from the Glasgow derby for years.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

I mean, the people of Swansea would say the exact same about us. I'm sure many in Glasgow would rather fans be banned from away games and I suspect a pretty penny was spent on policing Liverpool v Man United yesterday.

As an aside - and I freely admit that Maccabi Tel Aviv have their share of thugs - but every video I have seen from yesterday involves Hapoel Tel Aviv (who play in red and white) who are their rivals, and were the home side. Just an observation that is. I don't doubt Maccabi fans contributed to the chaos, as these things are very seldom one sided.

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And your thoughts on Maccabi fans behaviour in Amsterdam?

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Not sure if you're aware of this, but Cardiff is in South Wales as opposed to the Middle East.

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Didn't realise that. Thanks TLG 👍

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Up until very recently away fans have been banned from the Glasgow derby for years.

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No they weren't. It's cos the two clubs couldn't agree on ticketing arrangements.

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Originally Posted by jon1959

From the never reported British Jews who support the ban - and demonstrate against genocide in Palestine:

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org...cles-for-you_1

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Genocide is a form of one-sided mass killing in which a state or other authority intends to destroy a group, as that group and membership in it are defined by the perpetrator.

Lets be clear what Israel intended. It was clearly stated that Israel wanted to destroy Hamas. If your genocide is in reference to that then you would be right. If you are trying to conflate this to a wider genocide against the people of Gaza then you are wrong.

I for one will thank Israel if they wipe out that horrible sicking self-serving murderous terrorist group Hamas. They do-not work for the best interests of Gazan people and their lives will only improve when Hamas and Hezbullah are destroyed.

I read the link provided. Not one mention of the Jew hunt which happened after the game. Strange that

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

And your thoughts on Maccabi fans behaviour in Amsterdam?

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They were subjected to a mass 'Jew hunt' after the game.

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Originally Posted by NinianKnight

They were subjected to a mass 'Jew hunt' after the game.

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They deserved it after what happened before the match.

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Originally Posted by ninian opinian

Nothing to see here, the little darlings.

https://news.sky.com/story/tel-aviv-...ested-13453239

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The reach of the anti-semitic west midlands police knows no bounds, they are all powerful.

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Originally Posted by jeepster

They deserved it after what happened before the match.

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Christ, I've read some things on here...

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Originally Posted by NinianKnight

Genocide is a form of one-sided mass killing in which a state or other authority intends to destroy a group, as that group and membership in it are defined by the perpetrator.

Lets be clear what Israel intended. It was clearly stated that Israel wanted to destroy Hamas. If your genocide is in reference to that then you would be right. If you are trying to conflate this to a wider genocide against the people of Gaza then you are wrong.

I for one will thank Israel if they wipe out that horrible sicking self-serving murderous terrorist group Hamas. They do-not work for the best interests of Gazan people and their lives will only improve when Hamas and Hezbullah are destroyed.

I read the link provided. Not one mention of the Jew hunt which happened after the game. Strange that

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You are not alone in defining the term 'genocide' for yourself and amplifying the Israeli government's occasional defence.

But every major human rights organisation in the world (including in Israel) as well as the UN's Commission of Inquiry have concluded that Israel is committing genocide against the Palestinian people.

On the question of intent - Israeli government and IDF representatives (up to Netanyahu) have condemned themselves!

https://www.btselem.org/publications...7_our_genocide

https://www.un.org/unispal/document/...a-hrc-60-crp-3

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8641wv0n4go


Still, if you and Trump and Starmer disagree, that is up to you.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

No they weren't. It's cos the two clubs couldn't agree on ticketing arrangements.

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Because of fan safety :shrug:

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Originally Posted by NinianKnight

Genocide is a form of one-sided mass killing in which a state or other authority intends to destroy a group, as that group and membership in it are defined by the perpetrator.

Lets be clear what Israel intended. It was clearly stated that Israel wanted to destroy Hamas. If your genocide is in reference to that then you would be right. If you are trying to conflate this to a wider genocide against the people of Gaza then you are wrong.

I for one will thank Israel if they wipe out that horrible sicking self-serving murderous terrorist group Hamas. They do-not work for the best interests of Gazan people and their lives will only improve when Hamas and Hezbullah are destroyed.

I read the link provided. Not one mention of the Jew hunt which happened after the game. Strange that

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You must have been asleep for the past two years. One sided mass killing is exactly what we got. 68k and counting!

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Originally Posted by J R Hartley

Because of fan safety :shrug:

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Well by definition, anything related to away fans is connected to fan safety cos the very reason we have segregated sections is due to fan safety (although I read with interest recently that Premiership Rugby is bringing it in to aid atmospheres..).

But the reason away fans weren't present for two years is because the clubs couldn't agree on allocations. Thankfully reversed now.

In terms of trouble, things seem to be a little worse in Scotland now than England and there is a much stronger "pyro" culture, up there, I'm not sure why tbh

Everything will be fine. Lisa Nandy has got it covered...ish.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj971rwyzlgo

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Originally Posted by IanD

Everything will be fine. Lisa Nandy has got it covered...ish.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj971rwyzlgo

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They'll bend over backwards to appease their overlords: the safety of British citizens is a secondary concern. What a bunch of lily livered nobodies.

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Originally Posted by NinianKnight

Genocide is a form of one-sided mass killing in which a state or other authority intends to destroy a group, as that group and membership in it are defined by the perpetrator.

Lets be clear what Israel intended. It was clearly stated that Israel wanted to destroy Hamas. If your genocide is in reference to that then you would be right. If you are trying to conflate this to a wider genocide against the people of Gaza then you are wrong.

I for one will thank Israel if they wipe out that horrible sicking self-serving murderous terrorist group Hamas. They do-not work for the best interests of Gazan people and their lives will only improve when Hamas and Hezbullah are destroyed.

I read the link provided. Not one mention of the Jew hunt which happened after the game. Strange that

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****ing hell scary how dim you are

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

You must have been asleep for the past two years. One sided mass killing is exactly what we got. 68k and counting!

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Spot on. Worrying how people's mind works. No wonder we'll end up with a reform government

Well that’s the end of that nonsense.

Hopefully Tommy Ten Names will still attend though.

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Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman

Well that’s the end of that nonsense.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...s/c3w98224xx8o