The Two-faced, hypocritical Buffoon and his Party set for a Mauling at PMQ's Today..

i sampled it and dropped some ant and dec in there to lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PQ1-vmPZuo

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Originally Posted by blue matt

its in the Daily mail, so surely isn't true, its not in a approved CCMB news outlet

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ITV have got the tape(s). Shared with BBC. The existence of further tapes has not been denied. If the Daily Express run with the story, and make it anti-Boris, he may as well resign tomorrow. Not that I read Express or Mail.

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Originally Posted by Delbert

Lord Frost’s resignation has absolutely nothing to do with Covid or the entirely predictable failure of Johnson’s leadership. Like all the other shysters involved in Brexit, whenever reality gets involved and the project is exposed as the weird cult project of a handful of right wing loons they move quickly to distance themselves before they’re forced to own it.

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"Our interest is to be part of the biggest possible market with the fewest possible barriers"

"The European Market gives us that. The European free trade agreements give us that"

"Why would we want to depart from that?"

David Frost, Chief Executive of the Scottish Whisky Association, June 2016

As you say Delbert - just another Brexit shyster.

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Originally Posted by Elwood Blues

I dont give a scoobies what you think when you are being so obtuse Sludge. I have pointed out countless times how Blair's and Brown's Labour had treated the vulnerable over DLA and ESA and you completely ignore it as it does not suit your agenda.

I know how I will vote, not you

Be as deluded as you like.

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The Tories have been in power for nearly 12 years, it's not just PIP

You have clearly been lucky with PIP

It may not always be like that

But you have continued to vote for a government that may one day leave you high and dry

I find that unbelievable

Best of luck if it all goes tits up

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Originally Posted by IanD

ITV have got the tape(s). Shared with BBC. The existence of further tapes has not been denied. If the Daily Express run with the story, and make it anti-Boris, he may as well resign tomorrow. Not that I read Express or Mail.

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my post was in reference to the discussion many posts ago about how people dismiss the daily mail as right wing lies, yet when they run a story that they agree with, they suddenly become a trustworthy source, it just entertains me :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by blue matt

its in the Daily mail, so surely isn't true, its not in a approved CCMB news outlet

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Originally Posted by blue matt

my post was in reference to the discussion many posts ago about how people dismiss the daily mail as right wing lies, yet when they run a story that they agree with, they suddenly become a trustworthy source, it just entertains me :thumbup:

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Indeed both amusing and slightly hypocritical .

I remember another Tory rag The Telegraph breaking the MP. expenses scandal .

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Originally Posted by bluemoon

i sampled it and dropped some ant and dec in there to lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PQ1-vmPZuo

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Originally Posted by blue matt

my post was in reference to the discussion many posts ago about how people dismiss the daily mail as right wing lies, yet when they run a story that they agree with, they suddenly become a trustworthy source, it just entertains me :thumbup:

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Shouldn’t that make you think then? If”right wing rags” like the Mail are turning on Johnson’s Government, things have reached a bit of a state haven’t they. That said, the Mail has been pretty stroppy lately under their new, “socialist” :xmashehe:editor, but the ultra loyal Telegraph and Express have also been bearing their teeth lately.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Shouldn’t that make you think then? If”right wing rags” like the Mail are turning on Johnson’s Government, things have reached a bit of a state haven’t they. That said, the Mail has been pretty stroppy lately under their new, “socialist” :xmashehe:editor, but the ultra loyal Telegraph and Express have also been bearing their teeth lately.

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dont read any of them to be honest ( pretty sure I have made that point in posts in this thread ), but I do find it rather funny when in one discussion they are right wing and untrustworthy liars, yet if they have a go at Boris ( or anything to suit certain posters agenda's ) they are the bastions of truth

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Originally Posted by blue matt

dont read any of them to be honest ( pretty sure I have made that point in posts in this thread ), but I do find it rather funny when in one discussion they are right wing and untrustworthy liars, yet if they have a go at Boris ( or anything to suit certain posters agenda's ) they are the bastions of truth

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The Mail will never be a bastion of truth Matt buy sometimes even the dross out there has to report the bleeding obvious. As Bob Dylan once said..."The Times, They Are a'Changing".

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Originally Posted by blue matt

dont read any of them to be honest ( pretty sure I have made that point in posts in this thread ), but I do find it rather funny when in one discussion they are right wing and untrustworthy liars, yet if they have a go at Boris ( or anything to suit certain posters agenda's ) they are the bastions of truth

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Wouldn’t it be feasible that a right wing publication would be firing bullets at the buffoon who is ruining the credibility of the party that they back? Similar to recent events down the City, the vast majority of fans wanted the bloke in charge of the team fired because of his inept tactics, yet we still backed the team.

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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY

The Tories have been in power for nearly 12 years, it's not just PIP

You have clearly been lucky with PIP

It may not always be like that

But you have continued to vote for a government that may one day leave you high and dry

I find that unbelievable

Best of luck if it all goes tits up

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No, it is not just PIP.

And there are many elements of Tory policy I disagree with.

But Aistair Darling was also planning austerity cuts "deeper and tougher than Margaret Thatchers" if they had won the 2010 election and that respected body the Institute for Fiscal Studies was also talking about two parliaments of pain.

Don't take my word for it by the way

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...garet-thatcher.

Now you may well say that Brown and Darling would have been more sympathetic than the Tories to the less well off, but I very much doubt this given what I have already said about Blair (with Brown as his right hand man) setting up the draconian Interview regime under DLA which was admittedly broadened by the Tories under PIP. And Brown, of course used the same sort of interview regime for almost anyone who applied for ESA.

Not to mention tuition fees which Labour brought in in the teeth of opposition from the Tories and Lib Dems. who then of course change their minds after the results of the review instigated by Peter Mandelson in 2009 (and look at the problems this caused the Lib Dems).

Labour ,of course, opposed the increase the tories brought in but that was under a new leadership and there is no doubt that if Brown had been leader they would also have brought in the increases.

Had Labour got in in 2010 I would have had no confidence in them not leaving me high and dry either

I wasn't lucky with PIP and I acknowledge that you kindly offered to help if we did have problems. But it took me hours of hard work to fill in the forms in 2007 for my wife's reapplication for DLA ( we weer on a three year review until then but it was changed to indefinite at that review and I used this experience to answer the similar forms for PIP in 2020 and then to review the interview and successfully get standard care upgraded to enhanced care.

And whether you believe me or not I may well have abstained in 2017 and 2019 if Corbyn hadn't been leader (Almost certainly in 2019)

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

The Mail will never be a bastion of truth Matt buy sometimes even the dross out there has to report the bleeding obvious. As Bob Dylan once said..."The Times, They Are a'Changing".

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Yes but why did Dylan only mention one paper (:getscoat:)

Ha ha, you've hit the Mail on the head there Elwood 😀

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

Ha ha, you've hit the Mail on the head there Elwood ��

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I think my first response was obvious. In fact, you could say it was Telegraphed.........

Good response by the way

The guardian has obtained a picture of Boris Johnson, his wife Carrie Johnson and up to 17 staff in the Downing Street garden with ‘wine and cheese’ during lockdown.

Downing Street insist everyone was “working” in the garden.

Pull the bloody other one. This party gate investigation will become a full time job.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...en-in-may-2020

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Originally Posted by ninian opinian

The guardian has obtained a picture of Boris Johnson, his wife Carrie Johnson and up to 17 staff in the Downing Street garden with ‘wine and cheese’ during lockdown.

Downing Street insist everyone was “working” in the garden.

Pull the bloody other one. This party gate investigation will become a full time job.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...en-in-may-2020

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No crackers apparently, so not a real 'party'..

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Originally Posted by Elwood Blues

No, it is not just PIP.

And there are many elements of Tory policy I disagree with.

But Aistair Darling was also planning austerity cuts "deeper and tougher than Margaret Thatchers" if they had won the 2010 election and that respected body the Institute for Fiscal Studies was also talking about two parliaments of pain.

Don't take my word for it by the way

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...garet-thatcher.

Now you may well say that Brown and Darling would have been more sympathetic than the Tories to the less well off, but I very much doubt this given what I have already said about Blair (with Brown as his right hand man) setting up the draconian Interview regime under DLA which was admittedly broadened by the Tories under PIP. And Brown, of course used the same sort of interview regime for almost anyone who applied for ESA.

Not to mention tuition fees which Labour brought in in the teeth of opposition from the Tories and Lib Dems. who then of course change their minds after the results of the review instigated by Peter Mandelson in 2009 (and look at the problems this caused the Lib Dems).

Labour ,of course, opposed the increase the tories brought in but that was under a new leadership and there is no doubt that if Brown had been leader they would also have brought in the increases.

Had Labour got in in 2010 I would have had no confidence in them not leaving me high and dry either

I wasn't lucky with PIP and I acknowledge that you kindly offered to help if we did have problems. But it took me hours of hard work to fill in the forms in 2007 for my wife's reapplication for DLA ( we weer on a three year review until then but it was changed to indefinite at that review and I used this experience to answer the similar forms for PIP in 2020 and then to review the interview and successfully get standard care upgraded to enhanced care.

And whether you believe me or not I may well have abstained in 2017 and 2019 if Corbyn hadn't been leader (Almost certainly in 2019)

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Well you have tried to say PIP was Labours doing , it wasn't and still after 11 years you think the Tories are going to look after you better than anyone else so you vote for them

Good luck

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Originally Posted by ninian opinian

The guardian has obtained a picture of Boris Johnson, his wife Carrie Johnson and up to 17 staff in the Downing Street garden with ‘wine and cheese’ during lockdown.

Downing Street insist everyone was “working” in the garden.

Pull the bloody other one. This party gate investigation will become a full time job.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...en-in-may-2020

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It’s got be that complete lowlife Cummings releasing all these pictures all of sudden isn’t it? Someone’s definitely trying to oust boris. Reckon he will be gone by the end of January. Surely there’s only so much sh*t a person can take?

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Originally Posted by goats

It’s got be that complete lowlife Cummings releasing all these pictures all of sudden isn’t it? Someone’s definitely trying to oust boris. Reckon he will be gone by the end of January. Surely there’s only so much sh*t a person can take?

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Generate, surely?

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Shouldn’t that make you think then? If”right wing rags” like the Mail are turning on Johnson’s Government, things have reached a bit of a state haven’t they. That said, the Mail has been pretty stroppy lately under their new, “socialist” :xmashehe:editor, but the ultra loyal Telegraph and Express have also been bearing their teeth lately.

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I don't need to think I know , the media loves the smell of flesh , just wait until they've finished with Johnson .

I'm sure there is fresh meat out there to be gorged upon .

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Originally Posted by goats

It’s got be that complete lowlife Cummings releasing all these pictures all of sudden isn’t it? Someone’s definitely trying to oust boris. Reckon he will be gone by the end of January. Surely there’s only so much sh*t a person can take?

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looks like its a personal thing, wait till the last one dies down, then go again

Not sure on the reason for people to be so smug about it though, as he will only be replaced by someone similar ( in fact might even look more professional , less Buffon like and push the party on ) Priti Patel anyone ? ? ??

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Originally Posted by blue matt

looks like its a personal thing, wait till the last one dies down, then go again

Not sure on the reason for people to be so smug about it though, as he will only be replaced by someone similar ( in fact might even look more professional , less Buffon like and push the party on ) Priti Patel anyone ? ? ??

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Would probably be Rishi Sunak, who as politicians go is very different to Boris Johnson.

Do Sunak and Truss get on?