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You have an inflated opinion of your own importance. I don't really give a toss who you are and care even less about what you think and choose to try and impose on others. Now reply, because we know you must have the last word!Quote:
Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO
Data is a 4 days old, but giving a %age of the population gives a little more context as to how each country
is managing the outbreak.
I think it has been (Sweden defo) and Brazil who have used the herd approach.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...n-inhabitants/
Sweden it’s too early to tell but my Swedish colleague thinks it might work because they’re a lot less social than a lot of other European countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nelsonca61
Brazil are the first Southern Hemisphere country to have 1000+ deaths. It could go badly for them.
Like you, my early impression was that Wales was faring pretty poorly compared to other countries (we were ahead of Scotland in the death figures for some time), so I was a little surprised to see us coloured pale blue on that chart, but I think it's right to say that our figures have been fairly steady for a while now, so maybe things have improved recently in relation to others?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Fauci reckons earlier lockdown could have saved American lives: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-us-canada-52264860
Gove out of isolation after Chris Whiity gives permission for his Daughter to be tested.
We will see the same splits between advisors and government soon I think. Politicians have been using their medical and scientific advisors as cover for poor decision making.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baloo
Would be interested to hear from Wales Bales as in the politics forum thread he was unequivocally against an earlier shut down and frequently using statements from Fauci to explain why.
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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Oh my god :hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe: :facepalm:
You could save yourself the time and save him the bother of typing by just looking at Trump's twitter feed. Whatever's on there will be his line.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
Is this Wales Bales? :sherlock:Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
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That’s how Walesbales is always on here, he’s already making shit loads from computers!
You are a very bitter person. I tried to share detailed information with you, so that you could see things in a different light, but you wouldn't listen and you just carried on posting your usual garbage. When people make mistakes they usually reevaluate where they are going wrong, but you are like no one I've ever met before. I mean it takes a special kind of stupid to keep on believing things that have already been totally discredited. Your only possible excuse is that you are just doing it for a wind up!Quote:
Originally Posted by lardy
Well you could say that :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Croesy Blue
If he was it looks like he succeeded. LoM please take note this is what it looks like when someone bites.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
They wanted to do the herd immunity thing Pearcey3 , it was something straight out of the Nazis eugenics playbook.
Yes, as in the Johnson interview on This Morning where he outlined the pros of herd immunity and then said "but I disagree with that".
The sooner we can get back to talking about Cardiff City the better.
We should have learnt off other countries, we had a few weeks grace and wasted it, right wing austerity measures over many years is going to cost us dear unfortunately.
Different countries have different scenarios though, can't ignore that - it's not one size fits all.
Indeed not all other countries had many years of right wing austerity measures decimating their health service.Quote:
Originally Posted by tell it like it is
So you're saying every nation has exactly the same demographics, population densities etc?Quote:
Originally Posted by trampie09
Perhaps you can point out to all those NHS equivalents in the world that aren't insurance based?
Good God no, look at Wales we have an old population exacubated by immigrants from England who tend to be old and a drain on our Welsh NHS and our services, we don't get compensated by the English NHS for taking their oldies, the Barnet formula is not fit for purpose.Quote:
Originally Posted by tell it like it is
Why not just look at the similar ones? Do you think the U.K. is different enough to Spain, Italy and France that we couldn’t have looked to them and considered it might happen to us ?Quote:
Originally Posted by tell it like it is
Our medical experts were certainly advising us so.
Why would whether a healthcare system is funded through taxation or insurance have any bearing on how it handles a pandemic?Quote:
Originally Posted by tell it like it is
I'm pointing out he's not comparing like with like. Some can get close, sure, but still differences.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rjk
Agree the Barnett formula isn't fit for purpose, Scotland get far more than should, England far less on a per head from last info I saw a few years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by trampie09
Blaming the English? Seriously?
I can only remember one incident where England didn't get its way and that was when they wanted us to go to war again in Iraq, the Celts for once had the numbers to just about vote them down but normally due to weight of numbers what England wants England gets, the union state is failing us and they are not for turning, Germanic queen, right wing policies, state religion in England, unelected political chamber etc etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by tell it like it is
What have we got by been lumped in with them ? - zero hour contracts, minimum wage jobs, austerity blah blah blah.
Without getting unduly personal, I think it fair to say that anti-English sentiment is a very common theme from trampie.Quote:
Originally Posted by tell it like it is
I've no issue with the English Taunton, I've told you before but I call a spade a spade, l like Frank Lampard, Cherie Lunghie and Yokshire pudding you can't say fairer than that butt.
All on the same plate?Quote:
Originally Posted by trampie09
Indeed. Professor Helen Ward from Imperial College very forthright on this topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
I seen a programme of experts the other day and they seemed to be saying the UK Government have the wrong kind of advisors, they have been using modellers or summit and not medical experts on the ground.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
Just to say that for those who were unaware of this news, you should expect the deaths figure today to be above the thousand mark for the first time and, probably, well over it. I say that because figures issued by the ONS an hour or so ago show a total of 406 additional deaths consisting of 217 in care homes (ten times the previous figure), 33 in hospices, 136 in private homes, 3 in other communal homes and 17 elsewhere and this is only up to 3 April. When you add in the bump often seen after lower weekend figures, a number anything like the ones seen in the last couple of days (below 800) would be incredible.
Don't know what the fuss is about. It's just like seasonal flu like they said!
https://twitter.com/EdConwaySky/stat...07002165755905
Understand what you mean but the ONS figures are published weekly and are completely seperate from the Hospital daily figures issed by the government. These are used to keep in line with other countries reporting the same, but also because they are readily availabe, the ONS figures take time to collate. What we need to look at is todays figure, then see the difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
I think the spike won't show until tomorrow because the figures today will only be up to 5 PM yeaterday when the holiday was still affecting reporting. The adjusting will be the figures reported tomorrow which are up to 5 PM yesterday.
But then you have to add up all the new figures from Friday to today and devide by 4 to get the daily mean. It will probably still be higher
There are graphs showing a rolling 7 day average hereQuote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
https://www.ft.com/coronavirus-latest
Not sure if the UK curve is just based on hospital deaths though
Yes, on reflection you may well be right - I seem to remember Wednesday's as the worst day normally now. I think in the past they have just added all of the additional figures on to one day, but I might be wrong in believing that.Quote:
Originally Posted by xsnaggle
xsnaggle was right. 772 deaths announced just now, so we will probably see a big increase on that tomorrow. New cases recorded was 5,362 which is slightly above recent days, but means that, apart from Saturday's figure which was boosted by a one off 3,000 plus extra cases of positive swab tests on key workers, they have been holding pretty steady for over a week.Quote:
Originally Posted by the other bob wilson
David Squires on … 24 random nice things from football:
https://www.theguardian.com/football...-from-football
One thing that needs to be sorted out while we are on lock-down is these on-line gambling leeches who are still trying to suck money out of the vulnerable who are almost certainly even more vulnerable that normal.
There was an advert on TV yesterday from one of these arsehole companies announcing a new game, "Rainbow Rewards" or rainbow something. If that is not a direct attempt to link it to something good, with the rainbows in peoples windows just now, then I don't know what is.
I think they should all be closed down and their profits and assets seized to be given to the NHS.