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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
Do I have to spell it out for you? You’re saying it’s ok for chicken to be kept in conditions where is has to be chlorinated because people can make the choice not to buy it.
You're getting outraged on behalf of chickens now as well as everyone in the world.
Unbelievable. Is there nothing you won't show outrage about?
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Demanding, very aggressively, a Yes or No answer on wether Chinese people had suffered racist abuse on the level of African Carribeans, which quite clearly tried to belittle the fact that Chinese people had suffered racism, in fact I’d go as far to say you were implying that the Chinese couldn’t possibly begin to understand racism on an African Caribbean level.
Goodnight Jeffrey.
You have been asked to bring up the thread where you claimed I said that chinese people had suffered but not as much as blacks ....your words ....and it's no big deal in the grand scheme of things ...you said I used these words ....you were asked to provide proof of this, you said you would dig out my post and you cant because it doesnt exist
The post saying I said that chinese people had not suffered as much as " Blacks " , your words describing what you said I said ......and it's no big deal in the grand scheme of things .....your words ......doesnt exist
I think your response says everything
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
You're getting outraged on behalf of chickens now as well as everyone in the world.
Unbelievable. Is there nothing you won't show outrage about?
Do you not think the food standards of a country slipping down to these sort of levels is bad?
What else am I getting outraged about?
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
Do I have to spell it out for you? You’re saying it’s ok for chicken to be kept in conditions where is has to be chlorinated because people can make the choice not to buy it.
Nope i didnt say that either
embarrassing :wave:
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blue matt
Nope i didnt say that either
embarrassing :wave:
I just read the thread again and that’s exactly how it comes across:
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Rjk
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blue matt
I guess people could choose not to eat that chicken
we will see UK bred chickens labelled as such and people will have a choice to buy US or UK chicken, alot like we do with free range eggs
Surely you should be annoyed at the country increasing demand for animals reared in this way by allowing its standards to drop?
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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jon1959
'Tell a jew' what?
That the pyramids are OK. It just occurred to me that they may believe their ancestors were the force that actually did the hard work on them? I'm not sure though, I wasn't there, but they were certainly enslaved by the Egyptians.
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xsnaggle
That the pyramids are OK. It just occurred to me that they may believe their ancestors were the force that actually did the hard work on them? I'm not sure though, I wasn't there, but they were certainly enslaved by the Egyptians.
I would love to go and see the pyramids
Have you been ?
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SLUDGE FACTORY
I would love to go and see the pyramids
Have you been ?
No. My father climbed them and said in typical brusque fashion that he had wasted his time because once he had done it all there was to do was climb down again. His sidekick took the challenge of racing a local lad up one of them - - lost obviously!
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
I just read the thread again and that’s exactly how it comes across:
Surely you should be annoyed at the country increasing demand for animals reared in this way by allowing its standards to drop?
I could well be annoyed :wave: very annoyed
The point is, i simple pointed out that people can / will decide if they want to eat it or not, at no point did i " defend it " or " argued that chlorinated chicken isn’t bad" or even your latest " you’re saying it’s ok for chicken to be kept in conditions where is has to be chlorinated because people can make the choice not to buy it " yet you have stated i have, which is incorrect
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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SLUDGE FACTORY
I would love to go and see the pyramids
Have you been ?
we had a " guide " who walked us down into one, his only words were " lovely jubbly ", must have learnt english from Del boy :hehe: it truly was a funny experience
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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blue matt
we had a " guide " who walked us down into one, his only words were " lovely jubbly ", must have learnt english from Del boy :hehe: it truly was a funny experience
I remember I went when I was a kid and my parents were crouching down to go down/up the stairs and I didn't have to as I was short :hehe:
It was interesting to see the chambers though. As a kid, I found Ancient Egyptian culture fascinating, before it was studied in school :hehe:
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adz-a32
I remember I went when I was a kid and my parents were crouching down to go down/up the stairs and I didn't have to as I was short :hehe:
It was interesting to see the chambers though. As a kid, I found Ancient Egyptian culture fascinating, before it was studied in school :hehe:
Yea, 6ft 3" isnt the ideal size to go down into them
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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blue matt
I could well be annoyed :wave: very annoyed
The point is, i simple pointed out that people can / will decide if they want to eat it or not, at no point did i " defend it " or " argued that chlorinated chicken isn’t bad" or even your latest " you’re saying it’s ok for chicken to be kept in conditions where is has to be chlorinated because people can make the choice not to buy it " yet you have stated i have, which is incorrect
So do you think the lowering of our food standards to get a trade deal with the US because of how desperate we are after Brexit is bad then?
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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blue matt
Yea, 6ft 3" isnt the ideal size to go down into them
Jeez! I bet your back would have been aching after going down!
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Croesy Blue
So do you think the lowering of our food standards to get a trade deal with the US because of how desperate we are after Brexit is bad then?
even more embarrassing
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adz-a32
Jeez! I bet your back would have been aching after going down!
It was, though i was 20 ish years younger back then
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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blue matt
even more embarrassing
I thought you wouldn’t answer :hehe:
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
That the pyramids are OK. It just occurred to me that they may believe their ancestors were the force that actually did the hard work on them? I'm not sure though, I wasn't there, but they were certainly enslaved by the Egyptians.
Ah - I see. As I understand it the Pyramids are OK and should be safe from any Antifa history changers! They were almost certainly built by Egyptian labourers who were paid a wage (and given elaborate burial rites) not slaves. The idea that Jewish slaves built them came from Menachim Begin and Hollywood (Charlton Heston as Moses). It was made up!
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Croesy Blue
Do you not think the food standards of a country slipping down to these sort of levels is bad?
What else am I getting outraged about?
For the record washing chickens in chlorinated water was the norm in UK until EU banned it because of the risk that it could hide bad hygiene standards. This is n to to say USA has bad hygiene standards as you are implying.
Many of the bagged salads and other fresh prepared veg purchased in UK has been washed in chlorinated water.
What's the issue. Non other than our farmers believe that USA could produce cheaper chickens.
At the end of the day people will have the choice at no extra cost.
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Originally Posted by
lisvaneblue
For the record washing chickens in chlorinated water was the norm in UK until EU banned it because of the risk that it could hide bad hygiene standards. This is n to to say USA has bad hygiene standards as you are implying.
Many of the bagged salads and other fresh prepared veg purchased in UK has been washed in chlorinated water.
What's the issue. Non other than our farmers believe that USA could produce cheaper chickens.
At the end of the day people will have the choice at no extra cost.
Why would you wash it in chlorine if not because of bad hygiene standards?
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lardy
Why would you wash it in chlorine if not because of bad hygiene standards?
Could be an extra safety precaution?
Why do we wash bagged salads in Chlorine?Poor hygiene? .....and its in our drinking water
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jon1959
Ah - I see. As I understand it the Pyramids are OK and should be safe from any Antifa history changers! They were almost certainly built by Egyptian labourers who were paid a wage (and given elaborate burial rites) not slaves. The idea that Jewish slaves built them came from Menachim Begin and Hollywood (Charlton Heston as Moses). It was made up!
I never knew Begin said it but I would accept to many jews it would be a symbol of their enslavement, rightly or wrongly.
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lisvaneblue
Could be an extra safety precaution?
Why do we wash bagged salads in Chlorine?Poor hygiene? .....and its in our drinking water
We wash salad in chlorine to kill off the salmonella (unless you'd rather cook them at 175 degrees for an hour).
I guess we could just wash everything in chlorine if we wanted to. Or maybe it's a bit nicer to just treat the animals a bit better so they're less likely to have high levels of salmonella and e-coli and require the chlorine wash.
I think you are still able to douse them at home with chlorine if you choose, so don't worry about that.
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
How did thread about George Floyd (RIP) turn I to a discussion about chickens?
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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jon1959
Ah - I see. As I understand it the Pyramids are OK and should be safe from any Antifa history changers! They were almost certainly built by Egyptian labourers who were paid a wage (and given elaborate burial rites) not slaves. The idea that Jewish slaves built them came from Menachim Begin and Hollywood (Charlton Heston as Moses). It was made up!
Did they own property and have bank accounts then?
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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lardy
We wash salad in chlorine to kill off the salmonella (unless you'd rather cook them at 175 degrees for an hour).
I guess we could just wash everything in chlorine if we wanted to. Or maybe it's a bit nicer to just treat the animals a bit better so they're less likely to have high levels of salmonella and e-coli and require the chlorine wash.
I think you are still able to douse them at home with chlorine if you choose, so don't worry about that.
Salad in bags is the risk, bagged, can sweat, ideal for salmonella, so it has to be washed in chlorine ahead of bagging. Organic salad is not allowed to be washed in chlorine ( EU). And loose salad just needs a wash in tap water, so safest of the lot.
I agree your comments about animal welfare, so ideally free range is best.
But overall I wouldn't deny US chicken in UK on health grounds, but on animal welfare grounds.
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Heisenberg
It's a direct quote though :shrug:
Does the young lady say that only black people are dying and people in the UK aren't dying of Covid-19? If she did, I can see why you're non-plussed about it. (Spoiler: she said that there were two pandemics going on at the moment)
I'm getting the feeling that you just read the headline.
A lot of people only read the headline, which was the point of my post. I did indeed listen to the whole video. Yes, the young lady says there are two pandemics - the COVID pandemic and, in her words, the "pandemic of black people being killed every day". (listen from approx 1.04 to 1.15 minutes). That implies that all around the world (pandemic definition: a disease affecting the whole world) black people are being killed. I would simply question that statement.
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
lisvaneblue
For the record washing chickens in chlorinated water was the norm in UK until EU banned it because of the risk that it could hide bad hygiene standards. This is n to to say USA has bad hygiene standards as you are implying.
Many of the bagged salads and other fresh prepared veg purchased in UK has been washed in chlorinated water.
What's the issue. Non other than our farmers believe that USA could produce cheaper chickens.
At the end of the day people will have the choice at no extra cost.
I admire your faith that the food labelling regulations we currently have, all defined by EU Regulation or Directive, will persist post transition period. Seems to me that the key architects of Brexit were the people most keen on a bonfire of EU red tape such as precisely how to label a chicken.
In any event the Trade deal with the US may come with stipulations that country of origin is not labelled to allow everyone the choice people think they will have.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a8295141.html
But even if we agree to import all this stuff, we don’t have to buy it, do we (you may ask)? We can just buy British or “farm assured”, surely?
Yes and no. The US objects to COOL (“Country of Origin Labelling”) as it can refer to “country of birth, fattening, and slaughter of animals; country of milking, packaging, or processing for dairy products; and country of cultivation and processing for wheat”.
So post-Brexit, chances are you’ll be shopping blind, unable to avoid genetically modified American “cheddar”, even if you wanted to.[/I]
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
lisvaneblue
Salad in bags is the risk, bagged, can sweat, ideal for salmonella, so it has to be washed in chlorine ahead of bagging. Organic salad is not allowed to be washed in chlorine ( EU). And loose salad just needs a wash in tap water, so safest of the lot.
I agree your comments about animal welfare, so ideally free range is best.
But overall I wouldn't deny US chicken in UK on health grounds, but on animal welfare grounds.
That's exactly why everyone is against it isn't it?
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Originally Posted by
cyril evans awaydays
I admire your faith that the food labelling regulations we currently have, all defined by EU Regulation or Directive, will persist post transition period. Seems to me that the key architects of Brexit were the people most keen on a bonfire of EU red tape such as precisely how to label a chicken.
In any event the Trade deal with the US may come with stipulations that country of origin is not labelled to allow everyone the choice people think they will have.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a8295141.html
But even if we agree to import all this stuff, we don’t have to buy it, do we (you may ask)? We can just buy British or “farm assured”, surely?
Yes and no. The US objects to COOL (“Country of Origin Labelling”) as it can refer to “country of birth, fattening, and slaughter of animals; country of milking, packaging, or processing for dairy products; and country of cultivation and processing for wheat”.
So post-Brexit, chances are you’ll be shopping blind, unable to avoid genetically modified American “cheddar”, even if you wanted to.[/I]
If US chicken was permitted in UK, would US companies McDonalds and KFC use US chicken in their meals, and who would know?