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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
cyril evans awaydays
I admire your faith that the food labelling regulations we currently have, all defined by EU Regulation or Directive, will persist post transition period. Seems to me that the key architects of Brexit were the people most keen on a bonfire of EU red tape such as precisely how to label a chicken.
In any event the Trade deal with the US may come with stipulations that country of origin is not labelled to allow everyone the choice people think they will have.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a8295141.html
But even if we agree to import all this stuff, we don’t have to buy it, do we (you may ask)? We can just buy British or “farm assured”, surely?
Yes and no. The US objects to COOL (“Country of Origin Labelling”) as it can refer to “country of birth, fattening, and slaughter of animals; country of milking, packaging, or processing for dairy products; and country of cultivation and processing for wheat”.
So post-Brexit, chances are you’ll be shopping blind, unable to avoid genetically modified American “cheddar”, even if you wanted to.[/I]
You are actually a very intelligent bloke fair play
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
cyril evans awaydays
I admire your faith that the food labelling regulations we currently have, all defined by EU Regulation or Directive, will persist post transition period. Seems to me that the key architects of Brexit were the people most keen on a bonfire of EU red tape such as precisely how to label a chicken.
In any event the Trade deal with the US may come with stipulations that country of origin is not labelled to allow everyone the choice people think they will have.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a8295141.html
But even if we agree to import all this stuff, we don’t have to buy it, do we (you may ask)? We can just buy British or “farm assured”, surely?
Yes and no. The US objects to COOL (“Country of Origin Labelling”) as it can refer to “country of birth, fattening, and slaughter of animals; country of milking, packaging, or processing for dairy products; and country of cultivation and processing for wheat”.
So post-Brexit, chances are you’ll be shopping blind, unable to avoid genetically modified American “cheddar”, even if you wanted to.[/I]
But with regard to meat, as I said if you use a traditional butchers shop he will tell you where it comes from and i think most butchers wouldn't stock that chicken on principle. A lot of chicken people buy prepacked now is chinese but you won't find a butchers shop selling that I don't think, from my experience they sell the bigger british birds..
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
lisvaneblue
If US chicken was permitted in UK, would US companies McDonalds and KFC use US chicken in their meals, and who would know?
I think that is the point. I thought you were saying that people would have choice so what is the problem. Sorry if I misunderstood.
As I said in another thread further problems come for Northern Ireland as they will still be subject to the same food standards as the rest of Ireland (ie the EUs) and customs checks on behalf of the EU will take place on goods between two parts of the UK to ensure these standards are met and produce banned in the EU does not get into the single market.
Similarly chicken produce exported to the rest of the EU from the UK will need a certificate of origin or risk being subjected to additional border checks if this is not available. Problem is the UK government has already warned these certificates may not be available and exports could be rejected.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/poultry-...-leaves-the-eu
The UK government will issue certificates, however they may not be available from 1 January 2021. You can either export poultry meat to the EU without a certificate or remove optional indications.
To do this you must remove all optional indications from any:
packaging
labelling
accompanying documentation
If you export without a certificate, your goods may be delayed or rejected at an EU border.
Still we hold all the cards so it will probably be all ok
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
cyril evans awaydays
I think that is the point. I thought you were saying that people would have choice so what is the problem. Sorry if I misunderstood.
As I said in another thread further problems come for Northern Ireland as they will still be subject to the same food standards as the rest of Ireland (ie the EUs) and customs checks on behalf of the EU will take place on goods between two parts of the UK to ensure these standards are met and produce banned in the EU does not get into the single market.
Similarly chicken produce exported to the rest of the EU from the UK will need a certificate of origin or risk being subjected to additional border checks if this is not available. Problem is the UK government has already warned these certificates may not be available and exports could be rejected.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/poultry-...-leaves-the-eu
The UK government will issue certificates, however they may not be available from 1 January 2021. You can either export poultry meat to the EU without a certificate or remove optional indications.
To do this you must remove all optional indications from any:
packaging
labelling
accompanying documentation
If you export without a certificate, your goods may be delayed or rejected at an EU border.
Still we hold all the cards so it will probably be all ok
Fact or opinion?
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Did they own property and have bank accounts then?
Probably not and certainly not. I hope this helps.
I'm still not sure why you decided to jump from a statue of Colston to the pyramids earlier in this thread. If you share snaggles opinion that the pyramids are a monument to slave labour, that is the opposite of a monument to a slaver!
Still, I suppose the truth is out there if you know where to look! :biggrin:
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Originally Posted by
jon1959
Probably not and certainly not. I hope this helps.
I'm still not sure why you decided to jump from a statue of Colston to the pyramids earlier in this thread. If you share snaggles opinion that the pyramids are a monument to slave labour, that is the opposite of a monument to a slaver!
Still, I suppose the truth is out there if you know where to look! :biggrin:
Why do you people always change things to suit your reply and to suit your agenda.
i never said I thought that the pyramids were a monument to slave labour, I said some jews may, rightly or wrongly, see them as that. We all know they had practical purpose as burial chambers. Why they were built the relationship to each other that they were may be a referemnce to the aliens that visited the planet about 10,000 BC if you believe some stories (And they may have been lizards lol)
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
Fact or opinion?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...sing-irish-sea
Depends on whether you believe what Michael Gove says or not I suppose.
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
Why do you people always change things to suit your reply and to suit your agenda.
i never said I thought that the pyramids were a monument to slave labour, I said some jews may, rightly or wrongly, see them as that. We all know they had practical purpose as burial chambers. Why they were built the relationship to each other that they were may be a referemnce to the aliens that visited the planet about 10,000 BC if you believe some stories (And they may have been lizards lol)
:hehe:
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
cyril evans awaydays
Ah so its not fact is it? Yet! I think that stance may change in the coming months, but maybe not. I'll wait and see.
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
Ah so its not fact is it? Yet! I think that stance may change in the coming months, but maybe not. I'll wait and see.
If you read the 23 page document he references I think you will find it is. Read the bit on Agri-Food if you still have doubt (para 33).
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...eland-protocol
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Originally Posted by
Gofer Blue
A lot of people only read the headline, which was the point of my post. I did indeed listen to the whole video. Yes, the young lady says there are two pandemics - the COVID pandemic and, in her words, the "pandemic of black people being killed every day". (listen from approx 1.04 to 1.15 minutes). That implies that all around the world (pandemic definition: a disease affecting the whole world) black people are being killed. I would simply question that statement.
You're questioning a metaphor though.
You might as well have said "Killing black people isn't even a virus/disease so it couldn't be a "pandemic" in the first place".
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
cyril evans awaydays
I'll take your word for it, lol.
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
I'll take your word for it, lol.
You didn't "take his word for it" earlier :hehe:
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Originally Posted by
Heisenberg
You didn't "take his word for it" earlier :hehe:
tbf he didn't take Michel Gove's word for it so I don't blame him for having doubt.
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
cyril evans awaydays
tbf he didn't take Michel Gove's word for it so I don't blame him for having doubt.
And 'he' isn't about to read a dry 23 page document for the sake of a bit of football message board banter either :hehe:
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
And 'he' isn't about to read a dry 23 page document for the sake of a bit of football message board banter either :hehe:
You only had to read one paragraph, ya gimp :hehe:
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
Heisenberg
You only had to read one paragraph, ya gimp :hehe:
That's not very polite is it? There's no need for rudeness. I'm deeply offended !!!!!!!!!
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
That's not very polite is it? There's no need for rudeness. I'm deeply offended !!!!!!!!!
The offense on here has become a pandemic!
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
adz-a32
You guys can sign it in the link. No post/zip code needed.
It is so sad that another person of colour died from police brutality in America. Aren't the police meant to protect the citizens? Instead of using disproportionate force? This should not be happening in the first place but the best thing we can do now is to make those who abuse their powers accountable.
https://www.justiceforbigfloyd.com/#petition
George floyd was one vile individual. I wonder if you would support this petition if he had held a weapon to the stomach of your pregnant sister or wife? I'm not one to believe in karma but on this occasion karma came for him
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
Heisenberg
The offense on here has become a pandemic!
Offence is the best form of defence, thats why??? :hehe:
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Oh Tommy, Tommy.
Tommy, Tommy, Tommy Robinson.
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
cyril evans awaydays
I think that is the point. I thought you were saying that people would have choice so what is the problem. Sorry if I misunderstood.
As I said in another thread further problems come for Northern Ireland as they will still be subject to the same food standards as the rest of Ireland (ie the EUs) and customs checks on behalf of the EU will take place on goods between two parts of the UK to ensure these standards are met and produce banned in the EU does not get into the single market.
Similarly chicken produce exported to the rest of the EU from the UK will need a certificate of origin or risk being subjected to additional border checks if this is not available. Problem is the UK government has already warned these certificates may not be available and exports could be rejected.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/poultry-...-leaves-the-eu
The UK government will issue certificates, however they may not be available from 1 January 2021. You can either export poultry meat to the EU without a certificate or remove optional indications.
To do this you must remove all optional indications from any:
packaging
labelling
accompanying documentation
If you export without a certificate, your goods may be delayed or rejected at an EU border.
Still we hold all the cards so it will probably be all ok
Very informative post :thumbup:
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
Offence is the best form of defence, thats why??? :hehe:
I've just realised that my autocorrect changed my spelling of offence to the Americanised spelling. *Spits on the floor* I'm offended by that.
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Originally Posted by
stan butler
George floyd was one vile individual. I wonder if you would support this petition if he had held a weapon to the stomach of your pregnant sister or wife? I'm not one to believe in karma but on this occasion karma came for him
Does someone being a vile individual mean the police should be allowed to kill them?
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
Henry Hill
Oh Tommy, Tommy.
Tommy, Tommy, Tommy Robinson.
He's great isn't he. I like his slapstick comedy to be fair.
Have you seen the video when he's acting hard then starts retreating from some massive Muslim blokes and ends up falling up a curb?
Classic Tommy :hehe:
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Does anybody want to start a "Justice for the Chickens" petition?
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
Does someone being a vile individual mean the police should be allowed to kill them?
In his case he's just as vile as the cop who did it. scum of the earth if it was your wife or sister etc that he had threatened you wouldn't have the same tune.
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
Heisenberg
I've just realised that my autocorrect changed my spelling of offence to the Americanised spelling. *Spits on the floor* I'm offended by that.
My laptop uses US spellings all the time even when set to English UK but I'm on to it now, the sneaky thing!
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Re: Justice for George Floyd petition
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
Does someone being a vile individual mean the police should be allowed to kill them?
Ask Judge Dredd! He is the law!