The Donald Trump thread

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

So, what’s he done for the ordinary American man and woman?l

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You will have to ask them, but they voted him in so there is clearly something there

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

So the Democrats being hopeless excuses all of Trump’s excesses?

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No of course not. But it has created some easy wins for him.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Has USAID has been funding everyone's favourite propaganda channels all around the world?

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Fox News? Unlikely.

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Originally Posted by jon1959

Fox News? Unlikely.

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I have prior immunity.

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

Has USAID has been funding everyone's favourite propaganda channels all around the world?

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some people calling this money laundering i,m sure DOGE will get to the bottom of it

This is extremely dangerous to our democracy

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">6,000 journalists and 700 newsrooms received USAID money? <br><br>It&#39;s a wonder all of them parrot the same news. <a href="https://t.co/QEOmcX18kX">pic.twitter.com/QEOmcX18kX</a></p>&mdash; Clayton Morris (@ClaytonMorris) <a href="https://twitter.com/ClaytonMorris/status/1887518443777179649?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 6, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Originally Posted by MOZZER2

some people calling this money laundering i,m sure DOGE will get to the bottom of it

This is extremely dangerous to our democracy

6,000 journalists and 700 newsrooms received USAID money?

It's a wonder all of them parrot the same news. pic.twitter.com/QEOmcX18kX
— Clayton Morris (@ClaytonMorris) February 6, 2025

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They also received the narrative alongside the money, while Lardy & Cyril remained totally oblivious :hehe:

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

You will have to ask them, but they voted him in so there is clearly something there

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In other words, you can’t think of anything, neither can I.

About time we got back to discussing money laundering in the Donald Trump thread. Cheers, Mozzer.

Now to join the dots: Florida real estate deals. Inflated values. Russian oligarchs. Cash injection for failing Trump businesses. Totally legal or a swamp of fraud and corruption? Hmmmm….

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

In other words, you can’t think of anything, neither can I.

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I've never seen so many fascists in one room!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C86LooG-2kg

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

I've never seen so many fascists in one room!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C86LooG-2kg

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And if that’s the best you can come up with, you can’t think of anything either.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

And if that’s the best you can come up with, you can’t think of anything either.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw2BVI9OhC4

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw2BVI9OhC4

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And still you can’t.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

And still you can’t.

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I'm just here for the show :popcorn:

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

In other words, you can’t think of anything, neither can I.

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But it really is a question for American people isn't it? They are the ones to have judged the last four years and the opening two and a half weeks (yep it's only been that!) of his presidency.

On that, more people have a favourable opinion than not.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com.../donald-trump/

There is no real economic data out, so can't really judge that.

I should imagine views are mixed, but I would bet most like this

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20p36e62gyo

And despite his ways I should imagine many welcome the bids to stem the tide of Fentanyl given it kills 70,000 odd Americans a year.

There will be things they don't like too and it's all too early to see if any of it works.

But again, this idea that we have to have a view on him that is all good or all bad is just daft

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

But it really is a question for American people isn't it? They are the ones to have judged the last four years and the opening two and a half weeks (yep it's only been that!) of his presidency.

On that, more people have a favourable opinion than not.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com.../donald-trump/

There is no real economic data out, so can't really judge that.

I should imagine views are mixed, but I would bet most like this

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20p36e62gyo

And despite his ways I should imagine many welcome the bids to stem the tide of Fentanyl given it kills 70,000 odd Americans a year.

There will be things they don't like too and it's all too early to see if any of it works.

But again, this idea that we have to have a view on him that is all good or all bad is just daft

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I guess in your World the same could have been said of Hitler, Idi Amin, Pol Pot and Hannibal Lecter!

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

I guess in your World the same could have been said of Hitler, Idi Amin, Pol Pot and Hannibal Lecter!

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No, that's silly Ducky.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

No, that's silly Ducky.

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Hardly Sweetkins, it's your weird view

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

Hardly Sweetkins, it's your weird view

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God bless CCMB eh, where pointing out an opinion poll is weird and comparing someone to mass murdering maniacs is normal 😅

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

God bless CCMB eh, where pointing out an opinion poll is weird and comparing someone to mass murdering maniacs is normal 😅

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If it makes you sleep at night keep so be it

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Originally Posted by Dorcus

If it makes you sleep at night keep so be it

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Tbf it is a fairly boring poll.

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Originally Posted by JamesWales

But it really is a question for American people isn't it? They are the ones to have judged the last four years and the opening two and a half weeks (yep it's only been that!) of his presidency.

On that, more people have a favourable opinion than not.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com.../donald-trump/

There is no real economic data out, so can't really judge that.

I should imagine views are mixed, but I would bet most like this

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20p36e62gyo

And despite his ways I should imagine many welcome the bids to stem the tide of Fentanyl given it kills 70,000 odd Americans a year.

There will be things they don't like too and it's all too early to see if any of it works.

But again, this idea that we have to have a view on him that is all good or all bad is just daft

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You’ve changed your tune because you started this strand of the thread when you asserted that Trump really does care for his base who, we’re told, include very many of the downtrodden working class - all I’m doing is asking what has he done for them, not just in his second term, but his first one as well?

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Originally Posted by Wales-Bales

I'm just here for the show :popcorn:

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Says the man who has posted more on this thread than anyone else.

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

Says the man who has posted more on this thread than anyone else.

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I felt obliged to correct the record :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by the other bob wilson

You’ve changed your tune because you started this strand of the thread when you asserted that Trump really does care for his base who, we’re told, include very many of the downtrodden working class - all I’m doing is asking what has he done for them, not just in his second term, but his first one as well?

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Again, it really is up to them, not you or I. There is plenty you can read up on it.

But not withstanding COVID, I gather the economy did alright, wasn't hit by high inflation etc. Theyno doubt like his cultural arguments, perhaps they feel safer, like the focus on the stronger borders etc.

I don't think when you look at it Trump has done that great. But people were pissed with Biden and Trump offered an optimistic vision for many.

Have to see how he does won't we!

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Originally Posted by jon1959

About time we got back to discussing money laundering in the Donald Trump thread. Cheers, Mozzer.

Now to join the dots: Florida real estate deals. Inflated values. Russian oligarchs. Cash injection for failing Trump businesses. Totally legal or a swamp of fraud and corruption? Hmmmm….

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wow talk about changing the subject !

The USA taxpayers were being taken for a ride . Now DOGE are after the Education department and even the pentagon

Trump now revokes Biden's security clearance with immediate effect mind you i don't agree with that