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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Free signings on short term contracts, some work out, some don't.
Whyte never looked up to much for us. Never £2m. Poor.
Warnock's signings prior to the start of last season were dreadful and have helped put us in this position. However, that's not the reason for inept performances like we've seen this season.
In your opinion. We are lumbered with this squad thanks to Warnocks spending and covid. We can’t even afford two right backs in our squad.
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Free signings on short term contracts, some work out, some don't.
Whyte never looked up to much for us. Never £2m. Poor.
Warnock's signings prior to the start of last season were dreadful and have helped put us in this position. However, that's not the reason for inept performances like we've seen this season.
Does "the reason" suggest there is just one? There are several reasons we have looked inept this year and Warnock's poor transfer window(s) plus inability to develop the players already here are right up there.
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
In your opinion. We are lumbered with this squad thanks to Warnocks spending and covid. We can’t even afford two right backs in our squad.
Yet we've brought in 2 attacking midfielders on loan from the same club....
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
surge
Does "the reason" suggest there is just one? There are several reasons we have looked inept this year and Warnock's poor transfer window(s) plus inability to develop the players in youth ranks are right up there.
Spot on
It will take several windows to put it right and changing the manager continuously won’t help.
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
surge
Does "the reason" suggest there is just one? There are several reasons we have looked inept this year and Warnock's poor transfer window(s) plus inability to develop the players in youth ranks are right up there.
I totally agree. The shortermism of our promotion to the PL and total failure to build on it are major factors (that includes Warnock). Still think Harris has lost it though and that is costing us more than anything else at this moment in time. We're still better than 18th in the Championship.
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Yet we've brought in 2 attacking midfielders on loan from the same club....
Ones a winger replacing Mendez Laing, but I suppose that’s Harris fault too whatever NML has done so wrong that no one wants to touch him with a barge pole.
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Yet we've brought in 2 attacking midfielders on loan from the same club....
Were you happy to start the season with our attacking midfield options before doing that? If memory serves that was made up of Murphy, Whyte, Hoilett, Patterson and Tomlin.
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Ones a winger replacing Mendez Laing, but I suppose that’s Harris fault too whatever NML has done so wrong that no one wants to touch him with a barge pole.
That has also had an impact on the club. We're still no closer to finding out what happened there.
The club could easily have brought in a right back on loan. Sanderson was touted for a short while. That failure is a cock up by the transfer committee.
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
That has also had an impact on the club. We're still no closer to finding out what happened there.
The club could easily have brought in a right back on loan. Sanderson was touted for a short while. That failure is a cock up by the transfer committee.
They went for Wilson, and we're now skint. Sanderson is absolute garbage so I'm glad we didn't go back in for him but the lack of a right back means we're missing Bacuna in the middle. NML has had a massive impact and we've shifted some big characters in the dressing room. Granted they were on big money but I think it's had an impact.
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
For what it is worth a poll on the other site has seen around 100 vote already with over 95% wanting Harris gone.
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
surge
Were you happy to start the season with our attacking midfield options before doing that? If memory serves that was made up of Murphy, Whyte, Hoilett, Patterson and Tomlin.
No, it needed improving. I'd argue that our attacking options have never improved from Bothroyd, Chopra, Burke and Whittingham.
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Harris needs to drop a few players and try something new.
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
Pedro de la Rosa
They went for Wilson, and we're now skint. Sanderson is absolute garbage so I'm glad we didn't go back in for him but the lack of a right back means we're missing Bacuna in the middle. NML has had a massive impact and we've shifted some big characters in the dressing room. Granted they were on big money but I think it's had an impact.
I've no idea why we risked Osei-Tutu against Middlesbrough. Right-back is the one position where we can't cope with a long-term injury.
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Originally Posted by
LeningradCowboy
I've no idea why we risked Osei-Tutu against Middlesbrough. Right-back is the one position where we can't cope with a long-term injury.
Some of his decisions hasn’t worked. A gamble.
Bacuna CANNOT play RB
He’s actually v good in midfield
Time to go to a back 3? Not sure what solution is but if things stay same with results he’ll be gone by Xmas
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Originally Posted by
blue lewj
For what it is worth a poll on the other site has seen around 100 vote already with over 95% wanting Harris gone.
It’s not worth anything. 97 of the 100 were probably ***** and Roathy.
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
I totally agree. The shortermism of our promotion to the PL and total failure to build on it are major factors (that includes Warnock). Still think Harris has lost it though and that is costing us more than anything else at this moment in time. We're still better than 18th in the Championship.
5 players on the pitch tonight that continually turn out for us, both last season and the season in the premier league. That's a spine and i agree we are better than 18th.
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Originally Posted by
OurManFlint II
5 players on the pitch tonight that continually turn out for us, both last season and the season in the premier league. That's a spine and i agree we are better than 18th.
Yes we are better than 18th but please stop reffering to them as premier league players. They are not. They are championship players who played a season in the championship (and didn’t do too well)
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Originally Posted by
WJ99mobile
Some of his decisions hasn’t worked. A gamble.
Bacuna CANNOT play RB
He’s actually v good in midfield
Time to go to a back 3? Not sure what solution is but if things stay same with results he’ll be gone by Xmas
We've been awful when we've started with a back 3 under Harris.
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Originally Posted by
splott parker
It was one of Warnock’s good points being ‘in the know’, players such as Bamba, Hoilett, NML, Etheridge coming to us because of him really not because we’re Cardiff City. Of course he went on to waste money and burden us with dross but his initial bargain basement wheeling and dealing initially steadied a sinking ship.
You are bang on and a lot of people seem to forget this and just focus on how rubbish he was when spending money.
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
OurManFlint II
Sure, a season after being relegated from the premier league.
Many teams relegated from the Premiership do not get to the playoffs the season after they were relegated.
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Yes we are better than 18th but please stop reffering to them as premier league players. They are not. They are championship players who played a season in the championship (and didn’t do too well)
How can we be better than 18th?!
We ARE 18th!!
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Youve still got to spend it wisely. We completely wasted a lot of money last season but even then it was nothing compared to what others in the division spent.
Brentford just signed a striker for 10m. We signed one for 2m.
They also just sold one for £38 million!
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Re: Harris in or Harris out?
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Free signings on short term contracts, some work out, some don't.
Whyte never looked up to much for us. Never £2m. Poor.
Warnock's signings prior to the start of last season were dreadful and have helped put us in this position. However, that's not the reason for inept performances like we've seen this season.
Exactly.
People blaming Warnock for Harris's ineptitude is laughable. Why not blame Trollope and Slade as well? And OGS and Malky.
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Originally Posted by
Bluebird23
They also just sold one for £38 million!
That they bought for peanuts and developed. That’s what they do - they sign players with resale value. Invest in more players and gave a long term strategy. Whereas your mate Colin wastes millions on players with no resale value. Stick to licking the windows Mandy, leave the football economics to others.
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Originally Posted by
Bobby Dandruff
How can we be better than 18th?!
We ARE 18th!!
Has the season finished then?