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Re: One for the beam me up scotty Brigade. MH370
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Originally Posted by The sheep report wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 11:15
What do YOU think?
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Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 10:52
I have no links to spurious websites, no insider info etc. etc.
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 10:39
Just a Gut feeling that the Americans are involved, the passengers are dead, and the plane intact after being landed (somewhere)!!by a pilot (not the airline pilot), no ISLAM involvement with this one.
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Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 10:35
Far fetched, stoopid and 99.99999999999999999% wrong I realise, but something isn't right about this one.
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 23:59
It's a beam me up scotty moment.
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 09:22
Sounds like end of thread.
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Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 00:41
Yourself, I.. and I imagine a fair contingent of contributors and readers of this thread also feel that something isn't right, and if that is so given the little information that has been released, its 'probably' true.
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Originally Posted by Baloo wrote on Sat, 07 March 2015 13:39
In this age of mass surveillance, imaging is available from umpteen satellites (both Navigational.. and MUCH more so from the military) circulating our orb has pin pointed the route the doomed plane took, without doubt. Planes do not disappear. I have my own theory and links I could post with a fair amount of weight behind them that would be of course be ridiculed, personally i'd say the plane crashed many weeks later for a political agenda. Just my theory, shoot me down for it.
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Originally Posted by Beam Me Up Scotty Brigade wrote on Sat, 07 March 2015 13:25
You're saying that the first plane disappeared and was actually the one shot down over Ukraine?
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Originally Posted by saganspirit wrote on Sat, 07 March 2015 13:14
Mr offside?
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Re: One for the beam me up scotty Brigade. MH370
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Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 17:31
Like yourself Lardy, I wouldn't claim any version of events to be truth, keeping an open mind is essential. There are a myriad of possibilities, all of them seemingly sinister. A spiders web of misinformation. I don't believe the official version will ever surface, or even if declassified in 100 years time
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Originally Posted by goslow wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 17:21
I do wonder if we'll ever know the truth. But it does seem very possible to me that the plane shot down over the Ukraine was the same one that went missing earlier.
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Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 11:39
I mean, they'd have sneak the first one through someone's airspace to land it at a secret location. And then dispose of almost 250 bodies. And then sneak it back to Schiphol, over countless countries' airspace, and hope that no one at the airport who would normally be involved in preparing planes has noticed that this one hasn't come in on the normal scheduled route full of passengers. And that no one else in air traffic control noticed. And they'd have to get rid of the plane that had earlier carried all the waiting Malaysian Airlines aircrew into Amsterdam, again through plenty of airspace without anyone noticing.
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Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 11:30
And sometimes I wonder whether it wouldn't have just been easier to shoot down a plane that happened to be flying overhead at the time rather than arrange all that. But it is possible.
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 11:19
When you put it like that.
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Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 10:52
Very plausible..
Haven't you noticed that we don't start wars with nuclear-armed countries. This 'war' will be as cold as the last one.
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Re: One for the beam me up scotty Brigade. MH370
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Originally Posted by calonlan wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 17:35
Like yourself Lardy, I wouldn't claim any version of events to be truth, keeping an open mind is essential. There are a myriad of possibilities, all of them seemingly sinister. A spiders web of misinformation. I don't believe the official version will ever surface, or even if declassified in 100 years time
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Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 17:31
I do wonder if we'll ever know the truth. But it does seem very possible to me that the plane shot down over the Ukraine was the same one that went missing earlier.
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Originally Posted by goslow wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 17:21
I mean, they'd have sneak the first one through someone's airspace to land it at a secret location. And then dispose of almost 250 bodies. And then sneak it back to Schiphol, over countless countries' airspace, and hope that no one at the airport who would normally be involved in preparing planes has noticed that this one hasn't come in on the normal scheduled route full of passengers. And that no one else in air traffic control noticed. And they'd have to get rid of the plane that had earlier carried all the waiting Malaysian Airlines aircrew into Amsterdam, again through plenty of airspace without anyone noticing.
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Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 11:39
And sometimes I wonder whether it wouldn't have just been easier to shoot down a plane that happened to be flying overhead at the time rather than arrange all that. But it is possible.
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Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 11:30
When you put it like that.
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 11:19
Very plausible..
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Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 10:52
If you consider that in this theory, it was used by 'NATO' to provoke war with Russia, then sneaking the plane around the world wouldn't be the biggest object, given the member states involved. However you look at it 250 people are missing. But given that 3000 odd people were sacrificed for an agenda in 2001, its small change in comparison
The past doesn't dictate the future
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Re: One for the beam me up scotty Brigade. MH370
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Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 17:39
Like yourself Lardy, I wouldn't claim any version of events to be truth, keeping an open mind is essential. There are a myriad of possibilities, all of them seemingly sinister. A spiders web of misinformation. I don't believe the official version will ever surface, or even if declassified in 100 years time
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Originally Posted by calonlan wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 17:35
I do wonder if we'll ever know the truth. But it does seem very possible to me that the plane shot down over the Ukraine was the same one that went missing earlier.
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Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 17:31
I mean, they'd have sneak the first one through someone's airspace to land it at a secret location. And then dispose of almost 250 bodies. And then sneak it back to Schiphol, over countless countries' airspace, and hope that no one at the airport who would normally be involved in preparing planes has noticed that this one hasn't come in on the normal scheduled route full of passengers. And that no one else in air traffic control noticed. And they'd have to get rid of the plane that had earlier carried all the waiting Malaysian Airlines aircrew into Amsterdam, again through plenty of airspace without anyone noticing.
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Originally Posted by goslow wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 17:21
And sometimes I wonder whether it wouldn't have just been easier to shoot down a plane that happened to be flying overhead at the time rather than arrange all that. But it is possible.
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Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 11:39
When you put it like that.
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Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 11:30
Very plausible..
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 11:19
If you consider that in this theory, it was used by 'NATO' to provoke war with Russia, then sneaking the plane around the world wouldn't be the biggest object, given the member states involved. However you look at it 250 people are missing. But given that 3000 odd people were sacrificed for an agenda in 2001, its small change in comparison
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Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 10:52
We're at war with russia?fvck they kept that quiet.
Not always, no. When do you predict we will declare war on Russia?
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Re: One for the beam me up scotty Brigade. MH370
maybe more appropriate, when will Russia declare war on 'us'?
Lots of political maneuvering happening on a global scale with the BRICS ecomomies. Seems Putin has had enough of Western Banking Parasites too!
http://worldtruth.tv/russia-issues-international-arrest-warr ant-for-rothschild-soros/
Just theories, how the Rebert Fleck would I know? http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/smiley.gif
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Re: One for the beam me up scotty Brigade. MH370
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Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 17:51
maybe more appropriate, when will Russia declare war on 'us'?
When do you predict Russia will declare war on us?
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Re: One for the beam me up scotty Brigade. MH370
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Originally Posted by [IMG
http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif[/IMG] calonlan wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 18:05] maybe more appropriate, when will Russia declare war on 'us'?
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Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 17:51
Lots of political maneuvering happening on a global scale with the BRICS ecomomies. Seems Putin has had enough of Western Banking Parasites too!
When do you predict Russia will declare war on us?
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Re: One for the beam me up scotty Brigade. MH370
Im amazed that you can breathe and walk at the same time reading this garbage.
Fecking hilarious but scary at the same time.
Wibble wibble
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Re: One for the beam me up scotty Brigade. MH370
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Originally Posted by Sky High Bluebird wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 23:36
Im amazed that you can breathe and walk at the same time reading this garbage.
That's fine but have you addressed any of the linked information, and are you able to refute it and if so why>
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Re: One for the beam me up scotty Brigade. MH370
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Originally Posted by Sky High Bluebird wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 23:36
Im amazed that you can breathe and walk at the same time reading this garbage.
You can turn off auto-pilot, you're not in the cockpit now http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/thumbup.gif
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Re: One for the beam me up scotty Brigade. MH370
Dear fecking God
You do realise that airlines accross the globe retire their aircraft regularly when they no longer become economically viable.
The aircraft in Israel was retired in jan 2013 flown to tarbes in France and then onto Israel proberly for parting out , or possible second hand sale , or maybe for breaking up.
It happens every day accross the world.
There's a company in St athan carving out a very nice niche in this line of business.
How much tin foil did you need to make your hat ??
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Re: One for the beam me up scotty Brigade. MH370
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Originally Posted by Sky High Bluebird wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 23:58
Dear fecking God
I'll refrain from giving a grammar lesson, Captain. Even if the 3rd plane theory doesn't stack up in your mind, prey tell about your opinion on the missing plane. If it makes you feel at ease you can don a tin foil hat for the passage
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Re: One for the beam me up scotty Brigade. MH370
Third plane theory ??? ........ I can't breathe http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
I've said before the consensus amongst pilots is a pre meditated and pre planned suicide by one of the flightdeck.
Sadly executed to perfection.
A bit disappointing for the conspiracy theorists but there you go.
Blame the iPad for the grammar
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Re: One for the beam me up scotty Brigade. MH370
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Originally Posted by Sky High Bluebird wrote on Tue, 10 March 2015 00:18
Ok, but I wasn't asking for an industry consensus, I was asking your personal opinion. Is it also industry consensus for planes to crash without leaving trace debris? http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/sherlock.gif
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Re: One for the beam me up scotty Brigade. MH370
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Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Tue, 10 March 2015 00:09
Dear fecking God
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Originally Posted by Sky High Bluebird wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 23:58
You do realise that airlines accross the globe retire their aircraft regularly when they no longer become economically viable.
He has given his opinion on the plane a few times on here. And once already in this thread.
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Re: One for the beam me up scotty Brigade. MH370
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Originally Posted by Sky High Bluebird wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 23:58
Dear fecking God
Lardy has already tied offside up in knots, so much so it's painful and comical to watch at the same time.
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Re: One for the beam me up scotty Brigade. MH370
My personal opinion is in line with industry consensus.
I.e this was a deliberate act by a crewmember
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Re: One for the beam me up scotty Brigade. MH370
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Originally Posted by TruBlue wrote on Tue, 10 March 2015 00:23
Dear fecking God
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Originally Posted by Sky High Bluebird wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 23:58
You do realise that airlines accross the globe retire their aircraft regularly when they no longer become economically viable.
Well you say offside knows nothing about the industry but he's 'sure' it wouldn't be too hard to fly an unidentified Boeing across Europe so I take him at his word.
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Re: One for the beam me up scotty Brigade. MH370
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Originally Posted by Sky High Bluebird wrote on Tue, 10 March 2015 00:26
My personal opinion is in line with industry consensus.
4. It wouldn't require the help of tens of thousands of people to implement it.
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Re: One for the beam me up scotty Brigade. MH370
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Tue, 10 March 2015 00:36
Dear fecking God
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Originally Posted by TruBlue wrote on Tue, 10 March 2015 00:23
You do realise that airlines accross the globe retire their aircraft regularly when they no longer become economically viable.
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Originally Posted by Sky High Bluebird wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 23:58
The aircraft in Israel was retired in jan 2013 flown to tarbes in France and then onto Israel proberly for parting out , or possible second hand sale , or maybe for breaking up.
My favourite yet was about a plane landing every 2 seconds. Like you wouldn't have realised that they are all in different places. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/Dsmile.gif
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Re: One for the beam me up scotty Brigade. MH370
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Tue, 10 March 2015 00:36
Dear fecking God
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Originally Posted by TruBlue wrote on Tue, 10 March 2015 00:23
You do realise that airlines accross the globe retire their aircraft regularly when they no longer become economically viable.
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Originally Posted by Sky High Bluebird wrote on Mon, 09 March 2015 23:58
The aircraft in Israel was retired in jan 2013 flown to tarbes in France and then onto Israel proberly for parting out , or possible second hand sale , or maybe for breaking up.
Wibble wibble http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/smiley.gif
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Re: One for the beam me up scotty Brigade. MH370
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Originally Posted by Sky High Bluebird wrote on Tue, 10 March 2015 00:54
Sigh ...... Bullshit
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Originally Posted by clearly offside wrote on Sun, 08 March 2015 00:41
The minute you lose contact with ATC in european airspace they will try 5 or,6 times to contact you.
In this age of mass surveillance, imaging is available from umpteen satellites (both Navigational.. and MUCH more so from the military) circulating our orb has pin pointed the route the doomed plane took, without doubt. Planes do not disappear. I have my own theory and links I could post with a fair amount of weight behind them that would be of course be ridiculed, personally i'd say the plane crashed many weeks later for a political agenda. Just my theory, shoot me down for it.
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Re: One for the beam me up scotty Brigade. MH370
Offside, there's plenty of reasons why your theory of plane switching is impossible. This is just one in more detail - air stewards.
The plane that was shot down was Malaysian Airlines going from Amsterdam to KL. The air stewards who do that route will all live in KL, probably very close to the airport for their own convenience. That means the stewards working the fateful trip will already be in Amsterdam having come in on the previous shift.
The alternatives are that they either 1) they are flown to Amsterdam separately from KL or 2) a completely different team of stewards already in Amsterdam is used.
We can discount 1) and 2) for the same reason: because that is so highly unusual that someone (whether family, friend or colleague at the airport) would have been aware of it before the flight and put 2+2 together once it was shot down.
So this means that the air stewards on that flight must have come in on another scheduled KL to Amsterdam flight. If so, that leaves this plane somewhere in Schipol that also needs to be sneaked out or taken apart, whatever, with hardly anyone noticing.
It's just impossible, you only need the tiniest amount of common sense to realise this. Didn't the plane spotters you breakfasted with at Chobham airport teach you anything?!
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Re: One for the beam me up scotty Brigade. MH370
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Re: One for the beam me up scotty Brigade. MH370
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Originally Posted by Sky High Bluebird wrote on Tue, 10 March 2015 00:18
Essentially what you appear to be saying is that the pilot conspiracy theorists trump any other form of conspiracy theorists?