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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by Gwynedd Blue wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 14:34
At last there will be a return to good old fashioned Socialism.
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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 14:18
Labour have got a kick in the arse for deserting it . The Libs got what they really deserved for lying in filth . The SNP have shown the way to kick Tory scum out of their country.
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Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 05:56
The downside is, we will have shit to put up with for a few more years , however it will be a price worth paying to re establish true Socialist ideals after the next election. Though rebuilding the NHS will be costly. As will also be the cost of repairing the Social fabric of this country.
So the majority of the population do not vote for socialism but it should be imposed by taking to the streets? The logic fails me, GB.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 18:05
So the majority of the population do not vote for socialism but it should be imposed by taking to the streets? The logic fails me, GB.
No, more a case of, no matter how many bullies there out there that want to tread on us and steal our dinner money, we will not put up with it and will fight back. Even if most of the school yard wants to look the other way.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:10
So the majority of the population do not vote for socialism but it should be imposed by taking to the streets? The logic fails me, GB.
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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 18:05
No, more a case of, no matter how many bullies there out there that want to tread on us and steal our dinner money, we will not put up with it and will fight back. Even if most of the school yard wants to look the other way.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 18:05
At last there will be a return to good old fashioned Socialism.
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Originally Posted by Gwynedd Blue wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 14:34
Labour have got a kick in the arse for deserting it . The Libs got what they really deserved for lying in filth . The SNP have shown the way to kick Tory scum out of their country.
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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 14:18
The downside is, we will have shit to put up with for a few more years , however it will be a price worth paying to re establish true Socialist ideals after the next election. Though rebuilding the NHS will be costly. As will also be the cost of repairing the Social fabric of this country.
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Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 05:56
I will state - categorically - that I would never want to impose my IDEAS on other people - yet alone force them to take to the streets to create socialism. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/shrug.gif
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by Wrong Side of the Severn wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 17:45
Labour needs to become a Party that will fight for Wales and not a Party that is there to make up the numbers so that they can rule in Westminster. Unless that happens and Labour continues to take Welsh voters for granted there is a danger that the Party will go the same way as in Scotland. But the last thing Labour needs is a lurch to the left; that will make the Party even more unelectable than it is at present.
If they go to the right then there is no point in them even existing.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 17:33
Archie
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by Gwynedd Blue wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:20
At last there will be a return to good old fashioned Socialism.
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Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 18:05
Labour have got a kick in the arse for deserting it . The Libs got what they really deserved for lying in filth . The SNP have shown the way to kick Tory scum out of their country.
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Originally Posted by Gwynedd Blue wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 14:34
The downside is, we will have shit to put up with for a few more years , however it will be a price worth paying to re establish true Socialist ideals after the next election. Though rebuilding the NHS will be costly. As will also be the cost of repairing the Social fabric of this country.
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Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 14:18
Sorry - I should add that when I mentioned being on the streets I was talking about demonstrations and marches or social evenings to save the local school or the local rubbish tip (i.e direct action). Not really sure what you thought I meant. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/rolleyes.gif
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:29
Labour needs to become a Party that will fight for Wales and not a Party that is there to make up the numbers so that they can rule in Westminster. Unless that happens and Labour continues to take Welsh voters for granted there is a danger that the Party will go the same way as in Scotland. But the last thing Labour needs is a lurch to the left; that will make the Party even more unelectable than it is at present.
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Originally Posted by Wrong Side of the Severn wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 17:45
If they go to the right then there is no point in them even existing.
Has it ever occurred to you that the ideals of the working man have changed over the years? Labour were left wing when it was required - when the working man had little say and few rights. Those days are gone, your typical worker these days has rights and a good standard of living. Perhaps labour shifting towards the centre is a recognition of that fact
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:32
Archie
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 17:33
What makes you think the SNP are socialists? They are a centre left party And they describe themselves as centre left. on this basis o can only assume this is your pitiful attempt at trolling.
I don't think I have archie. Not in any serious conversation I haven't. Labour are anything but socialist.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
Suck it up Archie, suck it up Mick.
And breathe.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:47
Archie
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:32
What makes you think the SNP are socialists? They are a centre left party And they describe themselves as centre left. on this basis o can only assume this is your pitiful attempt at trolling.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 17:33
When have I claimed in a serious discussion that Labour are socialist? They are just left of centre.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:46
Labour needs to become a Party that will fight for Wales and not a Party that is there to make up the numbers so that they can rule in Westminster. Unless that happens and Labour continues to take Welsh voters for granted there is a danger that the Party will go the same way as in Scotland. But the last thing Labour needs is a lurch to the left; that will make the Party even more unelectable than it is at present.
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:29
If they go to the right then there is no point in them even existing.
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Originally Posted by Wrong Side of the Severn wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 17:45
Has it ever occurred to you that the ideals of the working man have changed over the years? Labour were left wing when it was required - when the working man had little say and few rights. Those days are gone, your typical worker these days has rights and a good standard of living. Perhaps labour shifting towards the centre is a recognition of that fact
Clearly the result in Scotland demonstrates that there is a demand for a more progressive agenda and peope will vote for it.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:50
Labour needs to become a Party that will fight for Wales and not a Party that is there to make up the numbers so that they can rule in Westminster. Unless that happens and Labour continues to take Welsh voters for granted there is a danger that the Party will go the same way as in Scotland. But the last thing Labour needs is a lurch to the left; that will make the Party even more unelectable than it is at present.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:46
If they go to the right then there is no point in them even existing.
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:29
Has it ever occurred to you that the ideals of the working man have changed over the years? Labour were left wing when it was required - when the working man had little say and few rights. Those days are gone, your typical worker these days has rights and a good standard of living. Perhaps labour shifting towards the centre is a recognition of that fact
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Originally Posted by Wrong Side of the Severn wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 17:45
There you go, demonstrating how out of touch with the working man you are again.
There were plenty of left and hard left choices for voters and pretty much these parties were ignored. In fact, most parties came below the monster raving loony party. That tells you everything you need to know about the UK electorate and it's desire for socialism
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 16:15
At last there will be a return to good old fashioned Socialism.
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Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 16:07
Labour have got a kick in the arse for deserting it . The Libs got what they really deserved for lying in filth . The SNP have shown the waybskick Tory scum out of their country.
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Originally Posted by steve davies wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 13:38
The downside is, we will have shit to put up with for a few more years , however it will be a price worth paying to re establish true Socialist ideals after the next election. Though rebuilding the NHS will be costly. As will also be the cost of repairing the Social fabric of this country.
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Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 05:56
But that does not mean there is not a bunch of people out there waiting for a decent left wing party to come along. The problem is the big boy on the block has been having an identity crises for several decades now. Labour seem to think the only way to beat the tories is to out tory them. Perhaps they should spend the next five years actually being left wing and see how that pans out. Nothing ventured nothing gained.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 21:01
At last there will be a return to good old fashioned Socialism.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 16:15
Labour have got a kick in the arse for deserting it . The Libs got what they really deserved for lying in filth . The SNP have shown the waybskick Tory scum out of their country.
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Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 16:07
The downside is, we will have shit to put up with for a few more years , however it will be a price worth paying to re establish true Socialist ideals after the next election. Though rebuilding the NHS will be costly. As will also be the cost of repairing the Social fabric of this country.
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Originally Posted by steve davies wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 13:38
add up the combined total of all left wing parties votes and you will be lucky to get above 20000 votes across the UK
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:49
Suck it up Archie, suck it up Mick.
We are both pleased with the fact that there are now 56 scotish socialists in westminster.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 21:05
Suck it up Archie, suck it up Mick.
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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:49
And breathe.
The SNP are centre left - try harder archie. That's a poor attempt.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 21:04
At last there will be a return to good old fashioned Socialism.
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 21:01
Labour have got a kick in the arse for deserting it . The Libs got what they really deserved for lying in filth . The SNP have shown the waybskick Tory scum out of their country.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 16:15
The downside is, we will have shit to put up with for a few more years , however it will be a price worth paying to re establish true Socialist ideals after the next election. Though rebuilding the NHS will be costly. As will also be the cost of repairing the Social fabric of this country.
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Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 16:07
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:47
Archie
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:32
What makes you think the SNP are socialists? They are a centre left party And they describe themselves as centre left. on this basis o can only assume this is your pitiful attempt at trolling.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 17:33
When have I claimed in a serious discussion that Labour are socialist? They are just left of centre.
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Originally Posted by Removed User wrote on Fri, 17 January 2014 09:13
You have spent the last five years claiming that Labour are socialists - and you have the cheek to call ME a troll?
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Originally Posted by Broken Machine wrote on Fri, 17 January 2014 03:19
That's right. Lets ignore the fact the welsh NHS is an utter shambles thanks to welsh labour and their socialist doctrine of ensuring we have poor standards
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 21:05
Suck it up Archie, suck it up Mick.
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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:49
And breathe.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by TruBlue wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 23:04
Suck it up Archie, suck it up Mick.
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 21:05
And breathe.
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Originally Posted by Croesy Blue wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:49
Suck what upbullisy.
I fear that many of then though , in the coming years , may well experience personally some of the scenarios they condemn unfortunate people for now. I hope not for their sake.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 21:10
At last there will be a return to good old fashioned Socialism.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 21:04
Labour have got a kick in the arse for deserting it . The Libs got what they really deserved for lying in filth . The SNP have shown the waybskick Tory scum out of their country.
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 21:01
The downside is, we will have shit to put up with for a few more years , however it will be a price worth paying to re establish true Socialist ideals after the next election. Though rebuilding the NHS will be costly. As will also be the cost of repairing the Social fabric of this country.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 16:15
But the richer citizens can pay for that.
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Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 16:07
so the SNP have shown the way to kick the tory scum out of scotland by taking 40 labour seats
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Originally Posted by steve davies wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 13:38
Ffs you cannot educate pork.
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Originally Posted by Mick the Miller wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 05:56
I will explain it to you in a way you will understand.
We've already established the SNP aren't socialist so their votes don't count towards 5his mythical socialist vote you're trying to create.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 21:33
Archie
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:47
What makes you think the SNP are socialists? They are a centre left party And they describe themselves as centre left. on this basis o can only assume this is your pitiful attempt at trolling.
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Originally Posted by archibald leitch wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 20:32
When have I claimed in a serious discussion that Labour are socialist? They are just left of centre.
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Fri, 08 May 2015 17:33
You have spent the last five years claiming that Labour are socialists - and you have the cheek to call ME a troll?
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Originally Posted by Removed User wrote on Fri, 17 January 2014 09:13
We were discussing the UK labour party as you well know. Why are you bringing Welsh labour in to it? Welsh labour have taken a very different path than uk labour
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Sat, 09 May 2015 06:57
We've already established the SNP aren't socialist so their votes don't count towards 5his mythical socialist vote you're trying to create.
Oh dear - the truth can be inconvenient for you on times can't it.
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Re: This is going to be one great result for Socialism
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Originally Posted by The Local Boy wrote on Sat, 09 May 2015 06:59
We were discussing the UK labour party as you well know. Why are you bringing Welsh labour in to it? Welsh labour have taken a very different path than uk labour
You're getting a bit desperate now.
