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Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia
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Organ Morgan.
I know zilch about lasers. Similarly, I'm equally uninformed re the possibility of a magnetic pole reversal next March or at any other time. Because I link to articles and videos others produce on various subjects doesn't mean I endorse what they claim.
As for your 'evade' remark, that's breathtaking audacity.
Though, had I been cretinous enough to have volunteered to become an unpaid volunteer for anything those proven shysters at Pfizer manufacture then I too would be depressed.
Hahaha is that all we're getting? Honestly, you probably would have saved more faced if you'd tried rabidly defending your position instead of skulking away with your tail between your legs.
I assume you see the logic in the argument against the lights being secret Russian satellite attacking lasers if you're dodging any attempt to discuss it. You apparently do your own research, does it not concern you that one of your sources can be easily taken apart with some slight amount of thought put towards it? I assume you trust the source as you posted it and seemed pretty convinced by it. Surely you should be taking a step back to consider their trustworthiness and the fact they've come out with a bare faced lie about having "a source" within NATO or the US military?
I wonder how many of your other numerous links and sources you post daily fall apart under scrutiny if people were bothered to do some digging...
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Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia
Ukraine's Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant has lost its last remaining external power source and is now relying on emergency diesel generators
https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/pres...ue-to-shelling
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Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia
Russia is at war with NATO. Putin has two options: admit defeat and retreat from all of Ukraine or turn this into a nuclear war or a conflict involving directed energy weapons of a type China supposedly used used against Indian troops in 2020. (China 'used secret microwave pulse weapon to cook Indian soldiers alive' and force them into retreat in Himalayan border battle - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-soldiers.html)
That's presuming Putin really is a Russian nationalist rather than a globalist team player who's partaking in an engineered conflict designed to drag on that's merely serving as a pretext to help scuttle the economies of Europe and North America to such a degree their citizens will suffer so horrendously they will beg for, rather than resist, the solution to their suffering - world government and total digital enslavement.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-63183435
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The fire is mostly out. Here’s what is left of the bridge. <a href="https://t.co/84oP4SOOtq">pic.twitter.com/84oP4SOOtq</a></p>— Kevin Rothrock (@KevinRothrock) <a href="https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/1578638533446709248?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 8, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Russian Senator Alexander Bashkin says Moscow will answer Crimean Bridge attack with a “possibly asymmetric response.” Duma deputy Oleg Morozov says the “terrorist attack” is a declaration of “war without rules.” <a href="https://t.co/VX72y9L1Ug">https://t.co/VX72y9L1Ug</a></p>— Kevin Rothrock (@KevinRothrock) <a href="https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/1578637046058360833?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 8, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia
Will Putin decide to declare war tomorrow at the meeting?
Maybe withdraw his troops from Ukraine?
Or neither and they will convene to have a show of hands whether to dunk Hobnobs or Jammy Dodgers into their coffee?
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Putin calls meeting of the Russian Security Council on Monday, Kremlin says - RIA</p>— BNO News (@BNONews) <a href="https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1579085333278310400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 9, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia
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Originally Posted by
Organ Morgan.
Will Putin decide to declare war tomorrow at the meeting?
Maybe withdraw his troops from Ukraine?
Or neither and they will convene to have a show of hands whether to dunk Hobnobs or Jammy Dodgers into their coffee?
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Putin calls meeting of the Russian Security Council on Monday, Kremlin says - RIA</p>— BNO News (@BNONews) <a href="https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1579085333278310400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 9, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Nah he will just start bombing residential areas again after Ukraine had the audacity to blow up part of a bridge built illegally by the Russians, few more rapes and mass graves will appear as they retreat back to mother Russia no doubt. Lovely people
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Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia
More buildings in Ukraine being destroyed today.
Russia blew up its own pipelines then its Crimean bridge.
In response Zelensky's shelling his capital and Ukraine's energy infrastructure. I'm struggling to understand why he hasn't demolished his own presidential palace.
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Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia
Putin starts a war in Ukraine and then complains when Ukrainians (probably) blow up a bridge which is one of Russia's main supply routes for armaments to use in his war. How terribly unsporting of them. Obviously all fascists who must be eliminated.
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Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia
I think that NATO gets involved officially if things continue.
"Ukraine has the momentum" in the war with russia and the Western defense alliance would stand with Kyiv as long as it takes, said NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg.
"russia's victory in the conflict in Ukraine will be a defeat for NATO, and this cannot be allowed."
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looks like Russia is blaming our royal navy for blowing up the pipelines !
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: The UK Ministry of Defence say Russia is "resorting to peddling false claims on an epic scale" after Moscow accused a Royal Navy unit of blowing up Nord Stream gas pipelines.<br><br>Latest: <a href="https://t.co/X3flQUBL0r">https://t.co/X3flQUBL0r</a><br><br>�� Sky 501, Virgin 602, Freeview 233 and YouTube <a href="https://t.co/XeHNkyd5Zy">pic.twitter.com/XeHNkyd5Zy</a></p>— Sky News (@SkyNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1586343448860303362?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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I wonder if Putin will finally blow Zelensky's Kiev palace to bits? Surely he can sacrifice one of his famed hypersonic missiles to perform the task.
This eight-month long conflict has been great news for many people, among them oil-producing countries whose product has increased in value and arms manufacturers who will make a bundle replacing all that's been sent to and been destroyed in Ukraine. Shareholders in the oil and energy sectors along with the military industrial complex have been constantly rubbing their hands with glee since late February.
Which provides me with another opportunity to link to a very short book penned around 90 years ago titled War is a Racket in which the author, a highly decorated former US general called Smedley Butler, realised wars and conflicts were never waged for the stated purposes but to further enrich already mega wealthy people. This Ukraine-Russia ding-dong reeks of the same playbook.
War is a Racket by Major General Smedley Butler - https://archive.org/details/WarIsARacket
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Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia
Russian missiles crossed into Poland, killing 2 people — AP
don't like the sound of this
trigger NATO article 5 ?
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Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia
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MOZZER2
Russian missiles crossed into Poland, killing 2 people — AP
don't like the sound of this
trigger NATO article 5 ?
Now seems to be agreement that they were Ukrainian air-defence missiles that hit Poland by accident.
Poland not blaming Russia.
NATO blaming Russia on grounds that if Russia hadn't invaded Ukraine wouldn't have shot at their allies and neighbours!
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Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia
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jon1959
Now seems to be agreement that they were Ukrainian air-defence missiles that hit Poland by accident.
Poland not blaming Russia.
NATO blaming Russia on grounds that if Russia hadn't invaded Ukraine wouldn't have shot at their allies and neighbours!
Hard to deny that fact.
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No idea if this is the latest thread on the Ukraine war..probably isn't, but I'm not sure that matters.
This statement seems to be both significant and has been coming.
On the one hand probably makes peace and more stability in Europe more likely. On the other, it basically says Putin can take a bite out of another country and get away with it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy0pz3er37jo
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Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia
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JamesWales
No idea if this is the latest thread on the Ukraine war..probably isn't, but I'm not sure that matters.
This statement seems to be both significant and has been coming.
On the one hand probably makes peace and more stability in Europe more likely. On the other, it basically says Putin can take a bite out of another country and get away with it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy0pz3er37jo
Has Boris commented yet?
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Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia
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Wales-Bales
Has Boris commented yet?
probably still hiding in a fridge !
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Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia
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MOZZER2
probably still hiding in a fridge !
Didn't he talk Z out of signing a peace deal before the war started?
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Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia
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JamesWales
No idea if this is the latest thread on the Ukraine war..probably isn't, but I'm not sure that matters.
This statement seems to be both significant and has been coming.
On the one hand probably makes peace and more stability in Europe more likely. On the other, it basically says Putin can take a bite out of another country and get away with it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy0pz3er37jo
In summary ...
Returning to pre 2014 borders is an unrealistic objective
Durable peace must include robust sucurity guarentees
But ...
US does not believe NATO membership for Ukraine is a relalistic outcome
Security guarentee must be backed by European & non-European troops
Peacekeepers must be part of a non-NATO mission and not covered under Article 5
No US troops for international oversight to be deployed in Ukraine
Nato's European members would need to provide the lion's share of future aid for Kyiv
Safeguarding European security must be an imperative for European members of Nato
Europe must provide the overwhelming share of future lethal and non-lethal aid to Ukraine
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Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia
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Wales-Bales
In summary ...
Returning to pre 2014 borders is an unrealistic objective
Durable peace must include robust sucurity guarentees
But ...
US does not believe NATO membership for Ukraine is a relalistic outcome
Security guarentee must be backed by European & non-European troops
Peacekeepers must be part of a non-NATO mission and not covered under Article 5
No US troops for international oversight to be deployed in Ukraine
Nato's European members would need to provide the lion's share of future aid for Kyiv
Safeguarding European security must be an imperative for European members of Nato
Europe must provide the overwhelming share of future lethal and non-lethal aid to Ukraine
so basically he's rolled over and given Putin everything he wants
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Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia
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Rjk
so basically he's rolled over and given Putin everything he wants
I think it's more than that. First the Biden regime destroyed the oil pipeline, and now Trump has given Europe the middle finger.
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Rjk
so basically he's rolled over and given Putin everything he wants
Was always going to be the case as we can’t just keep syphoning dead tax payers money towards what we know is a pointless cause. I thought the BBC reported that Russians were fighting with spades 😆
Trump probably knows the real story hence the pushback.
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TWGL1
Was always going to be the case as we can’t just keep syphoning dead tax payers money towards what we know is a pointless cause. I thought the BBC reported that Russians were fighting with spades
Trump probably knows the real story hence the pushback.
The astute among us will also have noticed that Europe is imploding from within.
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Re: Putin declares four areas of Ukraine as part of Russia
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Wales-Bales
The astute among us will also have noticed that Europe is imploding from within.
Yeh remember when the EU president mistakenly disclosed the huge number of Ukrainian losses in a war they were reported as winning. I bet that went down well with the propaganda machine. Three years later …. Sickening really at the total waste of lives on both sides.
