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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead
There's literally someone in this thread saying he'll go and support England if this happens.
I think to be fair he was joking
I hope
Because I won't ever be supporting them whatever we are called
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
UNDERHILL1927
See ya
See ya, because I have English parents ?
What Premiership club do you like ?
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
Sing what you want when you want in Welsh, in English and support the team
But let's not kid ourselves here the success of the Welsh football team is being used as a step ladder
The Welsh language and the country of Wales will survive by people speaking Welsh and the Welsh national team will be stronger by Welsh people supporting Welsh football teams
Not by renaming the Welsh side Cymru
For many Welsh speakers it already is and for many Welsh speakers it is Wales
I have absolutely no idea why the FAW are coming through with this , it's a load of cobblers
Absolutely, but it's entirely plausible that national sports teams have a part to play in such things, after all they're one of the most obvious expressions of national identity there is. One argument would be that the national team being called Cymru helps normalise the language further and encourage more speakers which lines up with your point on language/national survival.
I can think of a few reasons the FAW have done this. Firstly they get press from it, secondly it would line up the national team with the domestic system which already uses it so it's a fairly natural progression, thirdly it gives them a nice point of differentiation when it comes to marketing, fourthly it continues on a path they've been going down for a while.
And the big secret is you can continue to call the team Wales if you want! Noel Mooney and the Pontcanna Crachach won't come to your house and burn it down if you call the team Wales. There's been a big overreaction to this but there really is a certain irony to people who were presumably belting out the national anthem and Yma O Hyd a few months ago being so annoyed by the use of the Welsh language
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
Des Parrot
It’s a hell of a fascinating subject. Living is Poland certainly gives me a different insight into this part of the world and the dynamics and shifting that taken place. How the young Poles view part of Poland as German or Prussian still but places like Lviv as Polish. Poland basically went missing for 200 years, split up between Prussia, Russia & Austria.
Have you been to the new World War 2 Museum in Gdansk? Well worth a visit.
As part of my travels I always bone up on the history of a country and Poland has had an interesting history even before this century.
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Originally Posted by
Rock_Flock_of_Five
My language is English, same as all my family and friends. Therefore, we'd rather it was known as Wales.
You presumably realise that the name Wales didn't originate from English if you trace the etymology back more than one step, old fruit.
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
Have you been to the new World War 2 Museum in Gdansk? Well worth a visit.
As part of my travels I always bone up on the history of a country and Poland has had an interesting history even before this century.
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Poland was colonial , of a sort ?
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
It would be absolutely pathetic but if it pleased the likes of you to feel half Welsh then go for it
When the glory spell we are currently in is over, they will leave us alone and we can just be Wales again. I guess they have to jump on something as the rugby team is doing so badly….
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
The Bloop
It'll be a nightmare for the media deciding whether to pronounce it either come-roo, simroo, simree, or maybe even come-ree?
Many of them struggle with Birminum🙄
:hehe::thumbup:
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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OurManFlint II
Well it will be translated around the world, nobody knows it as Wales outside English Speaking countries. It'll still be (Pays De) Gal·les where i live.
Agree with that. I was going to mention Gales, Pays de gals etc. But i stand by my comment that the FAW should be concentrating on teh up and coming WC instead of the name change.
Spedger
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
Anyway, Caerdydd are home on Wednesday:thumbup:
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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splott parker
Anyway, Caerdydd are home on Wednesday:thumbup:
Give me a 'C'
Give me an 'A'
Give me an 'E'.......
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
The Bloop
Give me a 'C'
Give me an 'A'
Give me an 'E'.......
Do any Cardiff City fans know the words to Men of Harlech ?
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
The Bloop
Give me a 'C'
Give me an 'A'
Give me an 'E'.......
And a DD to finish.
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
UNDERHILL1927
See ya
Half the Welsh squad were born in England :hehe:for Euro 16 :hehe:
https://www.skysports.com/football/n...orn-in-england
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
TWGL1
See ya, because I have English parents ?
What Premiership club do you like ?
Cardiff City.
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
Nobody's Rep
Not comparable at all - why is it idiotic to be able to conduct your life in the language of your birthplace that you were raised with and understand and use daily?
Because 70% of the population cant speak Welsh. It is wrong to pander to the minority and therefore marginalise the majority. It is about time that the majority stood up to be counted against the vociferous and sometimes fanatical minority who basically run the country. Just because someone doesn’t speak the language doesn't make them any less Welsh or important.
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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TWGL1
Do any Cardiff City fans know the words to Men of Harlech ?
I thought it was Men have Horlicks?
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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TWGL1
Do any Cardiff City fans know the words to Men of Harlech ?
In English it's "Der, der, der, der, der, der..." Helpfully enough it's the same in Cymraeg (Welsh).
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Because 70% of the population cant speak Welsh. It is wrong to pander to the minority and therefore marginalise the majority. It is about time that the majority stood up to be counted against the vociferous and sometimes fanatical minority who basically run the country. Just because someone doesn’t speak the language doesn't make them any less Welsh or important.
Why is it wrong to try and keep alive a language that was almost wiped out by our neighbours?
Its hardly a hassle for anyone, you can call it Wales, others can call it Cymru. It's not as if we have many songs involving the words.
Why people are getting their knickers in a twist I don't know.
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
I find it amazing that we don't call our country by its own name in its own language.
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
dml1954
Because 70% of the population cant speak Welsh. It is wrong to pander to the minority and therefore marginalise the majority. It is about time that the majority stood up to be counted against the vociferous and sometimes fanatical minority who basically run the country. Just because someone doesn’t speak the language doesn't make them any less Welsh or important.
Dear, oh dear...
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
I find it amazing that we don't call our country by its own name in its own language.
It's 2022
The Welsh language is as far as I am aware as strong as its been in my lifetime
It's never going to die and those of us who don't speak Welsh and do not wish to but are middle of the road people with often Welsh, Irish, English and sometimes other roots .....do not want the language to die out
But what is the point in 2022 in the FAW changing the name of the team ?
We know for most of us It's still Wales .....so what is the point ?
Publicity ?
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Re: Wales considering renaming as Cymru
Wales/Cymru live on BBC2 now :-)