Climate 'nut jobs' locked up

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Originally Posted by Doucas

For the 10th time on this forum answer this.

What is the physical process that scientists say cause man made climate change, what is it about that process you think is wrong?

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Before I answer Im not planning to make any significant changes as it would be hypocritical , how are you going to reduce yours ?

I think they way we live as a species is massively damaging to the planet , industrial pollution, water pollution, air pollution, destruction of natural habitat, destruction of wildlife, missile testing (Ukraine etc)
rubbish waste and so on.
I just don’t think the politicians in charge have any intention of addressing any of the real issues and are simply looking to put in new methods of control.

Eg, replacement a fossil fuel vehicle to a battery powered vehicle.

Wouldn’t it be better to get rid of personal cars altogether and implement shared car schemes , make it easier for cyclists ( bike storage , cycle infrastructure etc - not just a few bollards or red paint on a road, ensure significant investment in public transport and make rail transport affordable etc etc

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

Before I answer Im not planning to make any significant changes as it would be hypocritical , how are you going to reduce yours ?

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So you can't answer then. If you can't answer it how can you think you know better than scientists and say it isn't happening?

I've decided not to have kids. I pay for trees to be planted every month and will sooner or later pay to get several giant sequoia which will eliminate my life time emissions.

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Originally Posted by Doucas

So you can't answer then. If you can't answer it how can you think you know better than scientists and say it isn't happening?

I've decided not to have kids. I pay for trees to be planted every month and will sooner or later pay to get several giant sequoia which will eliminate my life time emissions.

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I assume you’re joking when you have decided not to have kids for the sake of climate change ?

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

I think they way we live as a species is massively damaging to the planet , industrial pollution, water pollution, air pollution, destruction of natural habitat, destruction of wildlife, missile testing (Ukraine etc)
rubbish waste and so on.
I just don’t think the politicians in charge have any intention of addressing any of the real issues and are simply looking to put in new methods of control.

Eg, replacement a fossil fuel vehicle to a battery powered vehicle.

Wouldn’t it be better to get rid of personal cars altogether and implement shared car schemes , make it easier for cyclists ( bike storage , cycle infrastructure etc - not just a few bollards or red paint on a road, ensure significant investment in public transport and make rail transport affordable etc etc

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Yesterday's opinion was that humans are only responsible for 20% of carbon emissions, today our species is massively damaging the planet. At this rate of opinion change you will be Chairing the Barry Branch of Extinction Rebellion's Action Committee by the weekend!

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

I assume you’re joking when you have decided not to have kids for the sake of climate change ?

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I think one Doucas in the world is more than enough! :biggrin:

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

Yesterday's opinion was that humans are only responsible for 20% of carbon emissions, today our species is massively damaging the planet. At this rate of opinion change you will be Chairing the Barry Branch of Extinction Rebellion's Action Committee by the weekend!

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My opinion has never changed, I just think the data is open to question which appears reasonable enough, I can see you’re upset as I’m all for it.

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

My opinion has never changed, I just think the data is open to question which appears reasonable enough, I can see you’re upset as I’m all for it.

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What's your unwavering opinion?

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

What's your unwavering opinion?

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I don’t know enough about it really, but it’s not binary.I’ve suggested what I would do if I had any influence and my family are close to carbon neutral without being freaky about it.

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

I don’t know enough about it really, but it’s not binary.I’ve suggested what I would do if I had any influence and my family are close to carbon neutral without being freaky about it.

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Yesterday you said this.

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You’re ok thanks , I think I’d prefer to look elsewhere than a football message-board if I was that interested but it’s a topic I find boring and I would find it somewhat hypocritical to be all for it considering I like my foreign holidays, quick petrol cars , wood burning stoves , steaks, fast fashion , etc

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The rest of your family must be foraging in the back garden tethered to a post to compensate!

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

Yesterday you said this.



The rest of your family must be foraging in the back garden tethered to a post to compensate!

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Clearly you can’t see a wind up when it hits you in the face ::hehe:

I remember years ago I voted for Rodney Burman ( Lib Dem’s) as they were the only party who were happy to keep the “ green bag” scheme free to Cardiff residents as part of their election manifesto.Funny how times change.

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

Clearly you can’t see a wind up when it hits you in the face ::hehe:

I remember years ago I voted for Rodney Burman ( Lib Dem’s) as they were the only party who were happy to keep the “ green bag” scheme free to Cardiff residents as part of their election manifesto.Funny how times change.

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For future reference, which of those opposing statements is the wind up?

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

For future reference, which of those opposing statements is the wind up?

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I think even you know the odd steak and flight can still be offset by other green habits, like cycling , car ownership per household, clean heating / energy systems ,modern insulation, home working ,sensible food choices / lack of food waste etc. Oh plus we never wore masks :hehe:

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

I think even you know the odd steak and flight can still be offset by other green habits, like cycling , car ownership per household, clean heating / energy systems ,modern insulation, home working ,sensible food choices / lack of food waste etc. Oh plus we never wore masks :hehe:

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You, your family including your young child never wore a mask during the Covid restrictions, in schools, sporting stadiums or public places?

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

You, your family including your young child never wore a mask during the Covid restrictions, in schools, sporting stadiums or public places?

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Nope , thank god

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

Nope , thank god

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So when face coverings were a requisite in Welsh schools what did you do?

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

So when face coverings were a requisite in Welsh schools what did you do?

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We’re you a traffic warden before you retired , you ask so many questions :hehe:

My son is 6 , and it wasn’t law it was guidance only.

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

We’re you a traffic warden before you retired , you ask so many questions :hehe:

My son is 6 , and it wasn’t law it was guidance only.

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I'm curious that's all. Lots of us could only go into supermarkets, football grounds and kids to school by wearing a mask for a few months of the Covid period but your life carried on unchanged. Yet you are one of the people on here complaining most about the restrictions to your civil liberties.

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

I'm curious that's all. Lots of us could only go into supermarkets, football grounds and kids to school by wearing a mask for a few months of the Covid period but your life carried on unchanged. Yet you are one of the people on here complaining most about the restrictions to your civil liberties.

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My life was far from normal , I can assure you of that. When you have parents who have dementia and other ailments who live miles away it’s not pleasant, as you can imagine.

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

My life was far from normal , I can assure you of that. When you have parents who have dementia and other ailments who live miles away it’s not pleasant, as you can imagine.

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I can. My Mum was/is in a care home during and after the crisis. You have also been vocal that covid restrictions should be focused on those most vulnerable.

So when you visited your parents with dementia and other ailments you didn't wear a mask, right?

Also you have a 6 year old kid, how old are your parents?

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

I assume you’re joking when you have decided not to have kids for the sake of climate change ?

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No I'm not joking.

It's not the only factor but it's one of the major ones.

We seem incapable as a species currently of solving major problems unless it benefits the billionaire class. I think we've got about 15 years before shit really starts hitting the fan, that and the rise of authoritarianism in Western governments, extreme wealth inequality, growing poverty and housing shortages I just don't think I can provide a good life if I had any kids.

What do those in the Daily Mail comment section say? Don't have them if you can't afford them.

I've answered your question now answer mine.

What is the process scientists say is causing climate change and what about the process do you say is wrong?

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

I can. My Mum was/is in a care home during and after the crisis. You have also been vocal that covid restrictions should be focused on those most vulnerable.

So when you visited your parents with dementia and other ailments you didn't wear a mask, right?

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No I never wore one and they never got ill either. Funny thing was lots of other people wore theme masks which had the same effect as nothing at all. Strange times indeed.

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Originally Posted by Doucas

No I'm not joking.

It's not the only factor but it's one of the major ones.

We seem incapable as a species currently of solving major problems unless it benefits the billionaire class. I think we've got about 15 years before shit really starts hitting the fan, that and the rise of authoritarianism in Western governments, extreme wealth inequality, growing poverty and housing shortages I just don't think I can provide a good life if I had any kids.

What do those in the Daily Mail comment section say? Don't have them if you can't afford them

I've answered your question now answer mine.

What is the process scientists say is causing climate change and what about the process do you say is wrong?

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Fair play to you on your part.I think I’ve already given you my opinion on the matter.

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Originally Posted by TWGL1

No I never wore one and they never got ill either. Funny thing was lots of other people wore theme masks which had the same effect as nothing at all. Strange times indeed.

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So let's pause on your CCMB id. You are a guy who has worked with the same company for 35 years, who has a 6 year old child and both your parents with dementia, yeah?

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Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays

So let's pause on your CCMB id. You are a guy who has worked with the same company for 35 years, who has a 6 year old child and both your parents with dementia, yeah?

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Why are you interested, seriously , and I’ve been in the same job since the YTS scheme and had my son late , my wife is younger. No further information is needed is it ?