So, when Labour introduced this, it wasn't a bung to get people to vote for them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
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So, when Labour introduced this, it wasn't a bung to get people to vote for them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorcus
No indeed notQuote:
Originally Posted by Elwood Blues
Your daft girlfriendQuote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
The point being Thatcher brought in housing benefit and incapacity benefit to deal with her closure of heavy industry .....instead of providing jobs
But 20 years later her party under Iain Duncan Smith cut back on one and changed the name of the other
So if its OK for the Tories to change its OK for Labour to row back too , especially as this makes economic sense
You’re taking crap , why didn’t labour scrap it then when they were in power under Blair and brown ?Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
Why are labour pressing ahead with universal credit when it’s not that generous for non working people?
Because it was economically viable then you daft old sodQuote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
It's not now and hasn't been for about a decade ......and the Tories should have reduced the cost
But they didn't want to lose votes
But never mind they lost anyway so Labour are getting stuck into it and it will be unpopular and some will lose out and need support but that's the way it is
:hehe:Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
5 years maybe 10Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
Crushing
And don't forget, kids are all lazy these days and also a lot of these hard working pensioners will have actually been those lazy public sector scroungers that the very same people talk about constantly.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisp_1927
Many people even on here are obsessed by the "hard working" lies. I've never ever met anyone who made real money through so called "hard work". It's a horrible, puerile expression designed to be used as a wedge issue to further the interests of the elect few.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Cartman
https://x.com/jamesmelville/status/1...LhmySD2aRt-GNg
2022:
Keir Starmer:
“Labour has a fully costed plan to freeze energy bills.”
2024:
Ofgem announce a 10% rise in energy bills this winter & the Labour government cut the winter fuel allowance for millions of pensioners.
Deluded.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
Either add to the debate or stay in your lane , it’s not that difficult.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepster
WTF is delusional :hehe: :hehe::hehe:
Not so much deluded as easily influenced by any passing tweet in his stream.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepster
Starmer made that comment at the height of the fuel crisis two years ago. Since then energy prices have tumbled, the main reason that inflation is close to Bank of England norms.
Obviously if you just gulp down any passing opinion like soup then I guess you get where TWGL1 is right now.
https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/uk-natural-gas
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-...ctricity-price
The internet feeds the lemmingsQuote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Conspiracy theorist nutcases suddenly become " experts" based on hours spent on Google " researching " their freaky paths
As if by magic you pop up , are are one strange poster bro that’s for sure ….. now , why don’t back on track with the real story affecting 10m pensioners?Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Your obsession is beyond comprehension at times bro , bless xx
Either add to the debate or stay in your lane , it’s not that difficult.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
Here comes the pile one from the extreme comedy scene, Skank Factory, the resident outcastQuote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
As I say you’re obsessive and it’s hilarious, MB……Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Wholesale energy prices fell in late 2022 but there was a substantial lag before these fed through to consumers. The reduction in the price cap in April 2023 was not large enough to take it below the EPG level, so customers did not see their bills fall until the cap fell below the EPG in July 2023.Quote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Stay in your Lane.
Now stop it MB this obsessed behaviour is making me wonder if you’re another odd one
Look, don't shy away from a debate that you started. You posted a seductive tweet of Starmer in opposition making a case for a costed plan to freeze energy bills at a point where on the two graphs I posted gas was at 600 compared with 95 now and electricity 500 vs 80 per mwh today.Quote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
If you are happy to swallow stuff off X and post it here without thinking what you are swallowing I guess I can't stop you but if you can add to the debate by explaining beyond other people's thoughts then we can engage, I guess.
You’re very selective in what you’re saying as usual as long as it fits your limits. Now shall we get back on track ? I appreciate you will do anything to make a point but as it’s already been proven that 10m pensioners are losing out financially. More is to come. Your playing the man as usual not the ballQuote:
Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays
Well if someone is cash rich in relative terms , as plenty of pensioners are ......thanks to years of the Tories bribing them .....then 300 quid is a piss in the oceanQuote:
Originally Posted by TWGL1
There is the opportunity for many affected by the policy to get help via pension credit
A very small percentage will lose out but if you have a 20 k budget for the year then losing 300 quid is fake tears
You are crying for those who are doing OK mostly
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Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY
As far as I can tell there will be around 3 million pensioners badly affected, including those who do not currently get pension credit and those who are just above the breadline.
Is that your very small percentage???
That's why there is a push to get these people to get pension creditQuote:
Originally Posted by Elwood Blues
It's everywhere especially social media
We dont live in a 100 percent fair society and at some point the pensioners who have been blanketed for many years , for their vote , were going to take a hit
This drama is giving the Tories and those who vote for them a target but there we go
It is mental how you react differently to things depending which party does it mind. You would be like a lit match in a fireworks factory if this was the Tories.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLUDGE FACTORY