Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025
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Elwood Blues
I am not sure how much choice Bibi will get.
Trump wants that peace prize next year. Netanyahu may be a necessary sacrifice.
With the Donald anything is possible.
I guess that is one scenario.
Another is that Netanyahu will decide that the only way to stay in power (and possibly out of prison) is to continue to side with the ultranationalists and warmongering elements of his fragile coalition in Smotrich and Ben-Gvir.
In this view they will continue to try and trigger friction on the West Bank, undermine the peace plan in Gaza and try to agitate their neighbours.
Based on how Putin has played Trump since Alaska then he may think it is the lesser of his own two evils!
Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025
All living hostages released by Hamas, CCMB usual suspects traumatized by the president of peace delivering. Stolen elections have consequences.
Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025
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Heathblue
All living hostages released by Hamas, CCMB usual suspects traumatized by the president of peace delivering. Stolen elections have consequences.
And some people outrageously suggest you are a trump groupie
The nerve they display
Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025
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SLUDGE FACTORY
And some people outrageously suggest you are a trump groupie
The nerve they display
He's been key to negotiating this (fragile) peace, no?
Id say that's pretty close to established fact.
Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025
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JamesWales
He's been key to negotiating this (fragile) peace, no?
Id say that's pretty close to established fact.
I am doubting HBs sanity for his recurrent gushing over Trump , not Trump's negotiating powers
I reckon hes got a scrapbook of photos of his hero tucked under his pillow
Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025
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JamesWales
He's been key to negotiating this (fragile) peace, no?
Id say that's pretty close to established fact.
Yes - that is now close to established fact. The beginning of Phase 1 was pushed through by Trump.
But Sludge was calling out Heath on calling him 'the president of peace' as well as repeating MAGA lies about a stolen election.
Trump was the main reason Israel was able to break the last ceasefire in March - he encouraged them. He continued to provide arms, money and diplomatic cover. If he is now claiming credit for the release of the Israeli hostages (and hopefully some of the Palestinian hostages and prisoners) and enabling the start of UN-managed aid into Gaza, he must also take major responsibility for the thousands of civilian murders at the hands of the IOF this year!
There are enough people kissing his arse and blowing smoke - we don't all have to join in!
Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025
Sludge, Jon, Fair enough 👍
Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025
Jared Kushner all over the Gaza deal. Doesn't he have a financial interest in the the redevelopment of the area?
Anyone who thinks Trumps reason for arranging a peace deal is anything to do with peace, really doesn't understand the man.
And BBC's constant coverage of hostages being reunited with family is distasteful, when you consider the number of innocent Palestinians that have been murdered.
Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025
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BlueArmy 86
Jared Kushner all over the Gaza deal. Doesn't he have a financial interest in the the redevelopment of the area?
Anyone who thinks Trumps reason for arranging a peace deal is anything to do with peace, really doesn't understand the man.
And BBC's constant coverage of hostages being reunited with family is distasteful, when you consider the number of innocent Palestinians that have been murdered.
Don't forget the sausages!
Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025
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BlueArmy 86
Jared Kushner all over the Gaza deal. Doesn't he have a financial interest in the the redevelopment of the area?
Anyone who thinks Trumps reason for arranging a peace deal is anything to do with peace, really doesn't understand the man.
And BBC's constant coverage of hostages being reunited with family is distasteful, when you consider the number of innocent Palestinians that have been murdered.
Sounds like you are the one who doesn't want peace.
If you can't be happy about innocent hostages being returned to their families after two years then, genuinely, you need some help. I hope you get it.
Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025
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JamesWales
Sounds like you are the one who doesn't want peace.
If you can't be happy about innocent hostages being returned to their families after two years then, genuinely, you need some help. I hope you get it.
Where have I said I don't want peace
I'm not saying the reunions are a bad thing
What an odd reply
EDIT - just seen footage of Palestinians being received in the West Bank, so I take that comment back
Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025
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SLUDGE FACTORY
I am doubting HBs sanity for his recurrent gushing over Trump , not Trump's negotiating powers
I reckon hes got a scrapbook of photos of his hero tucked under his pillow
Not sure if he is or not but he'll be along in a minute to say that he doesn't trust any of them, then he'll say something about winding up the ccmb usual suspects or brigade or somesuch even though literally no one cares, then he'll at some point get upset himself and say someone's stalking him or tell you to sit down and shut the f**k up, then he'll gleefully start a "windup" thread that he planned at the family barbecue which only gets a handful of slightly confused replies and so the pattern continues :hehe: :old:
Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025
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delmbox
Not sure if he is or not but he'll be along in a minute to say that he doesn't trust any of them, then he'll say something about winding up the ccmb usual suspects or brigade or somesuch even though literally no one cares, then he'll at some point get upset himself and say someone's stalking him or tell you to sit down and shut the f**k up, then he'll gleefully start a "windup" thread that he planned at the family barbecue which only gets a handful of slightly confused replies and so the pattern continues :hehe: :old:
Don't be too disappointed Dell, you can change colours to yellow and blue, rent a march will be looking for new Focus in time for Christmas
Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025
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Heathblue
Don't be too disappointed Dell, you can change colours to yellow and blue, rent a march will be looking for new Focus in time for Christmas
Well I look forward to your alternating attempted windups and sulks relating to whatever they cook up
NHDKSSUFNSD :thumbup:
Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025
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delmbox
Well I look forward to your alternating attempted windups and sulks relating to whatever they cook up
NHDKSSUFNSD :thumbup:
There is always the climate change badge to fall back on if the Ukraine crew fail to get organised, there will always be something available for your virtue. 👍
Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025
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delmbox
Not sure if he is or not but he'll be along in a minute to say that he doesn't trust any of them, then he'll say something about winding up the ccmb usual suspects or brigade or somesuch even though literally no one cares, then he'll at some point get upset himself and say someone's stalking him or tell you to sit down and shut the f**k up, then he'll gleefully start a "windup" thread that he planned at the family barbecue which only gets a handful of slightly confused replies and so the pattern continues :hehe: :old:
The release of the sausages?!
Re: Trump Announces First Stage Of Israel Gaza Peace Deal 9th October 2025
FIFA President Gianni Infantino("FIFA doesn't do geopolitics") is present at the so-called peace conference in Sharm El Sheikh. There's a Photo of him with Trump on Twitter.
There's money in keeping politics out of sport as long as you ban Russia while letting Israel stay and play in Europe. Just follow American orders and you'll be fine, son.