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Re: Corbyn's interview (or non interview) with Sky on Sunday
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Originally Posted by alfie sherwood wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:38
No problem whatsoever with Corbyn refusing to speak with the Murdoch owned media. He should though get himself a decent press officer with a human face like Owen Jones and do it sooner rather than later.
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:03
I've tried explaining this elsewhere but people like Archie think that PR is for others and Corbyn doesn't need it.
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Originally Posted by alfie sherwood wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 12:57
Corbyn's biggest asset is his authenticity and genuineness and that mustn't get lost in spin, jargon and PR speak. However, sheer volume of media requests, media intrusion etc will demand that he gets himself a good press agent and I can think of nobody better than Owen Jones, a man who shares his beliefs, is very media friendly and I, understand, already a trusted ally of Corbyn.
You don't need to respond to that, he's now claiming everything he said in this thread was meant as a joke and we have been "whooshed" for thinking otherwise.
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Re: Corbyn's interview (or non interview) with Sky on Sunday
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:42
Quite a few mares happening here:
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:34
Elwood
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:24
Feedy
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:20
Jimmy
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:16
if you think I've had a mare then you've certainly had a whoosh
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:13
http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:11
Go on then Feeds, i'll play along - lay it down for me
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:07
Well, everything feedy said in this thread was just a huge joke, and by responding you have fallen right into his intricate trap!
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:06
you think I was serious?
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Originally Posted by Kiffa wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:05
Even in the unlikely event you were joking all along, you can hardly claim a whoosh on anyone that engaged with you considering your views in this thread pretty much match up with your general political stance (although of course, you'll now claim it isn't)
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:03
If that's the rules of "whoosh" then WHOOSH on you for responding to me, I was joking all along as well.
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Originally Posted by Kiffa wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 12:59
what do you think I have said in this thread that agrees with my political opinion? do you think I really believe Jeremy Corbyn is the messiah, is the anointed one and walks on water? the fact I wasn't serious may have been given away from my use of hyperbole.
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Re: Corbyn's interview (or non interview) with Sky on Sunday
I am a member of Unison and haven't had anything directly from them to encourage me to vote for Corbyn. I thought that might be because (as an early retiree) I am categorised as a 'retired member' and I don't think the system allows me to opt in to pay the political levy - but my partner is also in Unison and pays the levy and she got nothing either.
I am on the email list for Sheffield Trades Council, and they were quite active in promoting Corbyn (and either Eagle or Watson for deputy). However, the Trades Council works through its affiliated unions and doesn't communicate directly with individuals (other than the delegates and those few dozen others on its email list)
I think most active union members would know that the majority of trade unions (through special conferences or executive decisions) supported Corbyn in the leadership election. However, I saw no evidence of a general campaign inside Unison (or some other unions where I have close friends) to persuade members to sign up as affiliated supporters and vote for him. In fact it was such a clunky process to sign up as an affiliated supporter that I (and many other TU members) went directly to the Labour website and signed up as an individual registered supporter - and paid the Ł3/Ł10.
The truth is that Corbyn spoke to and for the vast majority of Labour supporters and members in all categories and they voted for him because of what he said and what he represents. It didn't need (and didn't get) any heavy handed trade union nudge to achieve the victory. Jeremy Corbyn won the election, not Len McClusky.
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Re: Corbyn's interview (or non interview) with Sky on Sunday
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:45
Quite a few mares happening here:
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:42
Elwood
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:34
Feedy
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:24
Jimmy
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:20
if you think I've had a mare then you've certainly had a whoosh
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:16
http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:13
Go on then Feeds, i'll play along - lay it down for me
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:11
Well, everything feedy said in this thread was just a huge joke, and by responding you have fallen right into his intricate trap!
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:07
you think I was serious?
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:06
Even in the unlikely event you were joking all along, you can hardly claim a whoosh on anyone that engaged with you considering your views in this thread pretty much match up with your general political stance (although of course, you'll now claim it isn't)
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Originally Posted by Kiffa wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:05
If that's the rules of "whoosh" then WHOOSH on you for responding to me, I was joking all along as well.
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:03
what do you think I have said in this thread that agrees with my political opinion? do you think I really believe Jeremy Corbyn is the messiah, is the anointed one and walks on water? the fact I wasn't serious may have been given away from my use of hyperbole.
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Originally Posted by Kiffa wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 12:59
Your usage of hyperbole is no indicator of seriousness or otherwise on a topic.
I'm not sure how I can be "talking out of my arse" when I'm not trying to claim anything and as for you now trying to claim I'm obfuscating, well, someone posted an article on here yesterday about how sociopaths tend to accuse others of what they're guilty of... I suggest you read it.
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Re: Corbyn's interview (or non interview) with Sky on Sunday
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Originally Posted by jon1959 wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:49
I am a member of Unison and haven't had anything directly from them to encourage me to vote for Corbyn. I thought that might be because (as an early retiree) I am categorised as a 'retired member' and I don't think the system allows me to opt in to pay the political levy - but my partner is also in Unison and pays the levy and she got nothing either.
This is just typical feedy, going around the houses to try to validate an inaccurate claim he made. The alternative is to concede he is mistaken and of course, that can't happen so we have to go through this dance for the umpteenth time.
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Re: Corbyn's interview (or non interview) with Sky on Sunday
2. jon1959 is wronbg, the unions didn't want Corbyn to win and I was mistaken when I said the unions 'got their man'
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Re: Corbyn's interview (or non interview) with Sky on Sunday
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:54
I am a member of Unison and haven't had anything directly from them to encourage me to vote for Corbyn. I thought that might be because (as an early retiree) I am categorised as a 'retired member' and I don't think the system allows me to opt in to pay the political levy - but my partner is also in Unison and pays the levy and she got nothing either.
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Originally Posted by jon1959 wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:49
I am on the email list for Sheffield Trades Council, and they were quite active in promoting Corbyn (and either Eagle or Watson for deputy). However, the Trades Council works through its affiliated unions and doesn't communicate directly with individuals (other than the handful of delegates and those few dozen others on its email list)
but jon has said that the unions wanted Corbyn as their man. I've put it in bold for oyu since you must have missed it the first time.
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Re: Corbyn's interview (or non interview) with Sky on Sunday
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:54
I am a member of Unison and haven't had anything directly from them to encourage me to vote for Corbyn. I thought that might be because (as an early retiree) I am categorised as a 'retired member' and I don't think the system allows me to opt in to pay the political levy - but my partner is also in Unison and pays the levy and she got nothing either.
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Originally Posted by jon1959 wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:49
I am on the email list for Sheffield Trades Council, and they were quite active in promoting Corbyn (and either Eagle or Watson for deputy). However, the Trades Council works through its affiliated unions and doesn't communicate directly with individuals (other than the handful of delegates and those few dozen others on its email list)
Whoosh
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Re: Corbyn's interview (or non interview) with Sky on Sunday
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Originally Posted by jon1959 wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:49
I am a member of Unison and haven't had anything directly from them to encourage me to vote for Corbyn. I thought that might be because (as an early retiree) I am categorised as a 'retired member' and I don't think the system allows me to opt in to pay the political levy - but my partner is also in Unison and pays the levy and she got nothing either.
if that is the case why did the trade unions set up call centres to help members join the labour party?
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Re: Corbyn's interview (or non interview) with Sky on Sunday
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:05
colonel
If you can find evidence of that then the press would love to know, they'd have a field day with it.
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Re: Corbyn's interview (or non interview) with Sky on Sunday
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:14
colonel
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:05
one one hand you suggest I'm wrong when I say the unions 'got their man', but then agree with jon1959 who makes it very clear statement that
I've already given you a BBC article where they say the unions set up call centres for this specific purpose. Not only that, the unions had all the relevant forms printed and distributed. If you accept the BBC is the press then you must accept I have met your criteria for evidence.
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Re: Corbyn's interview (or non interview) with Sky on Sunday
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:17
colonel
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:14
one one hand you suggest I'm wrong when I say the unions 'got their man', but then agree with jon1959 who makes it very clear statement that
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:05
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What we're looking for here is evidence that the unions encouraged members to vote FOR CORBYN, SPECIFICALLY.
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Re: Corbyn's interview (or non interview) with Sky on Sunday
The general public is looking to hear what Corbyn has to say. The proverbial man in the street knows little, if anything, about him or his policies. Superficially Corbyn has some good ideas (such as railway privatisation) but what we would like to know is how is he going to pay for them. Nuclear disarmament and abolishing the army have been mentioned but we would like to know - and I suspect so would his Party how his radical policies can be paid for. Shunning the press is not the best way to win the public over or to attract decent media coverage.
That nonsense with Sky was ridiculous and pulling out of interviews with the BBC's Andrew Marr on Sunday citing he was too busy to attend but then was seen being photographed with some Bollywood babes was not the best idea. Earlier he pulled out of an interview with Andrew Neil. Yesterday he failed to turn up for an interview on Radio 4's Today programme.
On Sunday Tom Watson said on the Marr programme he had been asked to do PMQs as Corbyn's deputy. When Corbyn was accused of leaving women out of the most senior shadow cabinet positions we now find Angela Eagle will do the job along with others with Corbyn doing the odd one. Today we find Corbyn is appearing on Wednesday at PMQs and not Tom Watson or Angela Eagle. At present Corbyn is all over the place.
Corbyn has an horrendous task leading a Party where only a few MPs voted for him in the leadership election. He desperately needs to get his act together and a decent Press Secretary, as already suggested would be a good start. One thing is for sure Corbyn won't be able to duck the Press forever.
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Re: Corbyn's interview (or non interview) with Sky on Sunday
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:08
I am a member of Unison and haven't had anything directly from them to encourage me to vote for Corbyn. I thought that might be because (as an early retiree) I am categorised as a 'retired member' and I don't think the system allows me to opt in to pay the political levy - but my partner is also in Unison and pays the levy and she got nothing either.
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Originally Posted by jon1959 wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:49
I am on the email list for Sheffield Trades Council, and they were quite active in promoting Corbyn (and either Eagle or Watson for deputy). However, the Trades Council works through its affiliated unions and doesn't communicate directly with individuals (other than the delegates and those few dozen others on its email list)
Most of the trade unions that took a position decided to endorse Corbyn - although some supported other candidates. Most trade unions - especially the bigger ones - tried to promote the sign up of affiliated supporters from the ranks of their members. In my experience most trade unions were pushing involvement in the process and the importance of an effective opposition and potential future government to represent the interests of ordinary people, whether working and in trade unions or not. Some individuals, and at least the one Trades Council I mentioned (although I expect that was common) actively promoted Corbyn as a candidate, but I saw no evidence of the individual trade union publicity machines being used to push Corbyn over Burnham, Cooper or Kendle. I was called 3 times by the Unison call centre and the caller was scrupulously 'neutral' in respect of the 4 candidates every time.
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Re: Corbyn's interview (or non interview) with Sky on Sunday
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:20
colonel
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:17
one one hand you suggest I'm wrong when I say the unions 'got their man', but then agree with jon1959 who makes it very clear statement that
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:14
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:05
I think most active union members would know that the majority of trade unions (through special conferences or executive decisions) supported Corbyn in the leadership election
you're digging yourself a hole here colonel. time to stop digging
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Re: Corbyn's interview (or non interview) with Sky on Sunday
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:32
colonel
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:20
one one hand you suggest I'm wrong when I say the unions 'got their man', but then agree with jon1959 who makes it very clear statement that
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:17
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:14
I think most active union members would know that the majority of trade unions (through special conferences or executive decisions) supported Corbyn in the leadership election
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:05
so which is it:
So which is it? unlikely A or the more believable B?
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Re: Corbyn's interview (or non interview) with Sky on Sunday
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Originally Posted by jon1959 wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:29
I am a member of Unison and haven't had anything directly from them to encourage me to vote for Corbyn. I thought that might be because (as an early retiree) I am categorised as a 'retired member' and I don't think the system allows me to opt in to pay the political levy - but my partner is also in Unison and pays the levy and she got nothing either.
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:08
I am on the email list for Sheffield Trades Council, and they were quite active in promoting Corbyn (and either Eagle or Watson for deputy). However, the Trades Council works through its affiliated unions and doesn't communicate directly with individuals (other than the delegates and those few dozen others on its email list)
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Originally Posted by jon1959 wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:49
I think most active union members would know that the majority of trade unions (through special conferences or executive decisions) supported Corbyn in the leadership election. However, I saw no evidence of a general campaign inside Unison (or some other unions where I have close friends) to persuade members to sign up as affiliated supporters and vote for him. In fact it was such a clunky process to sign up as an affiliated supporter that I (and many other TU members) went directly to the Labour website and signed up as an individual registered supporter - and paid the Ł3/Ł10.
Feedy, carefully read the bit in bold.
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Re: Corbyn's interview (or non interview) with Sky on Sunday
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 10:14
Only yesterday feedy was saying:
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 10:11
it is strange that you seem to think the press won't attack him at some point in the future. I'd have thought you would appreciate that now he is leader they will do whatever they can to discredit him.
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:59
Corbyn knows this as well as anyone and yet here's feedy today, accusing Corbyn of "disagreeing with a free press" for ignoring one idiotic Murdoch street presser.
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:52
Corbyn is a socialist. pretty much all socialists disagree with freedom of the press, freedom of thought and freedom of expression.
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:44
I see. And this latest episode of a socialist exercising his right to not answer any old question thrown at him by a street douche has reinforced this bonkers view of yours?
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:41
Surely then, by that logic, there are no examples in existence of any right wing politician avoiding answering a journalists' question?
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:36
under UK law, you have the right to remain silent but anything you omit can be used against you. Corbyn omitted an answer thus this can be used against him - he is clearly hiding something.
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:30
Not really. The street "journalist" was asking about the lack of women in senior positions in the cabinet.
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:22
Corbyn answered that question in the best way possible, with actions rather than words, by appointing 16 women in his cabinet
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Mon, 14 September 2015 21:26
I like the you can't prove otherwise nyah nyah nyah bit too http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:45
Only yesterday feedy was saying:
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 10:14
it is strange that you seem to think the press won't attack him at some point in the future. I'd have thought you would appreciate that now he is leader they will do whatever they can to discredit him.
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 10:11
Corbyn knows this as well as anyone and yet here's feedy today, accusing Corbyn of "disagreeing with a free press" for ignoring one idiotic Murdoch street presser.
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:59
Corbyn is a socialist. pretty much all socialists disagree with freedom of the press, freedom of thought and freedom of expression.
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:52
I see. And this latest episode of a socialist exercising his right to not answer any old question thrown at him by a street douche has reinforced this bonkers view of yours?
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:44
Surely then, by that logic, there are no examples in existence of any right wing politician avoiding answering a journalists' question?
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:41
under UK law, you have the right to remain silent but anything you omit can be used against you. Corbyn omitted an answer thus this can be used against him - he is clearly hiding something.
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:36
Not really. The street "journalist" was asking about the lack of women in senior positions in the cabinet.
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:30
Corbyn answered that question in the best way possible, with actions rather than words, by appointing 16 women in his cabinet
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:22
http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif Feedy's spiralling out of control.
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great to see these long political threads with the usual cock wavers and narcissists present and correct back on the main board giving said persons the oxygen they crave http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
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Re: Corbyn's interview (or non interview) with Sky on Sunday
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Originally Posted by packerman wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:55
Bit harsh. We're just having a chat about politics, nobody was harmed.
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Re: Corbyn's interview (or non interview) with Sky on Sunday
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Originally Posted by jon1959 wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:49
I am a member of Unison and haven't had anything directly from them to encourage me to vote for Corbyn. I thought that might be because (as an early retiree) I am categorised as a 'retired member' and I don't think the system allows me to opt in to pay the political levy - but my partner is also in Unison and pays the levy and she got nothing either.
Oh ffs this is getting ridiculous, give me one good reason why i should listen to you or Fila, who are members of a union when i can listen to an accountant from penarth who isn't ?
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Re: Corbyn's interview (or non interview) with Sky on Sunday
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Originally Posted by gnasher wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 15:06
I am a member of Unison and haven't had anything directly from them to encourage me to vote for Corbyn. I thought that might be because (as an early retiree) I am categorised as a 'retired member' and I don't think the system allows me to opt in to pay the political levy - but my partner is also in Unison and pays the levy and she got nothing either.
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Originally Posted by jon1959 wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 13:49
I am on the email list for Sheffield Trades Council, and they were quite active in promoting Corbyn (and either Eagle or Watson for deputy). However, the Trades Council works through its affiliated unions and doesn't communicate directly with individuals (other than the delegates and those few dozen others on its email list)
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Re: Corbyn's interview (or non interview) with Sky on Sunday
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:11
He's under no obligation to talk to people following him on the street, they continued to follow him and ask the same questions long after it had become clear he had no intention of talking to them.
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:08
I wouldn't mind betting he didn't want to give a Rupert Murdoch media outlet a story, although that didn't stop them uploading it anyway
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:05
I wonder when the left get their way and was have the stasi or securitate on the streets following us whether the mantra from Corbyn will be that we can just 'avoid' their questions.
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 08:54
"We won't be able to walk the streets freely" - tell that to Ian Tomlinson
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:11
He's under no obligation to talk to people following him on the street, they continued to follow him and ask the same questions long after it had become clear he had no intention of talking to them.
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:08
I wouldn't mind betting he didn't want to give a Rupert Murdoch media outlet a story, although that didn't stop them uploading it anyway
http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:05
I wonder when the left get their way and was have the stasi or securitate on the streets following us whether the mantra from Corbyn will be that we can just 'avoid' their questions.
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 08:54
Do you mean everyone else's or anyone else's?
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Re: Corbyn's interview (or non interview) with Sky on Sunday
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:37
colonel
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:32
one one hand you suggest I'm wrong when I say the unions 'got their man', but then agree with jon1959 who makes it very clear statement that
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:20
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:17
I think most active union members would know that the majority of trade unions (through special conferences or executive decisions) supported Corbyn in the leadership election
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:14
so which is it:
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:05
1. the unions did endorse Corbyn and I was right when I said they got their man; or
both are indisputable facts and both are what I said at the outset.
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 15:13
He's under no obligation to talk to people following him on the street, they continued to follow him and ask the same questions long after it had become clear he had no intention of talking to them.
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:11
I wouldn't mind betting he didn't want to give a Rupert Murdoch media outlet a story, although that didn't stop them uploading it anyway
http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:08
I wonder when the left get their way and was have the stasi or securitate on the streets following us whether the mantra from Corbyn will be that we can just 'avoid' their questions.
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:05
either, that wasn't the point I was making.
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 15:14
He's under no obligation to talk to people following him on the street, they continued to follow him and ask the same questions long after it had become clear he had no intention of talking to them.
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 15:13
I wouldn't mind betting he didn't want to give a Rupert Murdoch media outlet a story, although that didn't stop them uploading it anyway
http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:11
I wonder when the left get their way and was have the stasi or securitate on the streets following us whether the mantra from Corbyn will be that we can just 'avoid' their questions.
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:08
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:05
What does this even mean?!
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 08:54
Corbyn is a socialist, socialists despise freedom of thought and speech. you only have to look at how the majority of socialists on here become apoplectic with rage when somewhere dare suggest an alternative viewpoint.
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 08:45
Throughout history, every socialist and hard left government has created an internal security agency above the law to suppress the people. The most well known were the stasi and securitate.
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Mon, 14 September 2015 23:22
I'm trying to imagine a scenario in which Corbyn has become prime minister, introduced the secret police and then advised all citizens not to answer any of their questions.
Do you think that he is duty bound to answer every question he is asked on the spot?
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 15:16
He's under no obligation to talk to people following him on the street, they continued to follow him and ask the same questions long after it had become clear he had no intention of talking to them.
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 15:14
I wouldn't mind betting he didn't want to give a Rupert Murdoch media outlet a story, although that didn't stop them uploading it anyway
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 15:13
I wonder when the left get their way and was have the stasi or securitate on the streets following us whether the mantra from Corbyn will be that we can just 'avoid' their questions.
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:11
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:08
What does this even mean?!
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:05
Corbyn is a socialist, socialists despise freedom of thought and speech. you only have to look at how the majority of socialists on here become apoplectic with rage when somewhere dare suggest an alternative viewpoint.
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 08:54
Throughout history, every socialist and hard left government has created an internal security agency above the law to suppress the people. The most well known were the stasi and securitate.
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 08:45
I'm trying to imagine a scenario in which Corbyn has become prime minister, introduced the secret police and then advised all citizens not to answer any of their questions.
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Mon, 14 September 2015 23:22
that is the point, Corbyn would want his questions answered but doesn't think he has to answer everyone else's questions. the man has shown his true colours - if he is elected as PM we will be a socialist pariah state in no time at all and we won't be able to walk the streets freely.
A better strategy might be to answer questions when asked.
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 15:32
He's under no obligation to talk to people following him on the street, they continued to follow him and ask the same questions long after it had become clear he had no intention of talking to them.
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 15:16
I wouldn't mind betting he didn't want to give a Rupert Murdoch media outlet a story, although that didn't stop them uploading it anyway
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 15:14
I wonder when the left get their way and was have the stasi or securitate on the streets following us whether the mantra from Corbyn will be that we can just 'avoid' their questions.
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 15:13
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:11
What does this even mean?!
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:08
Corbyn is a socialist, socialists despise freedom of thought and speech. you only have to look at how the majority of socialists on here become apoplectic with rage when somewhere dare suggest an alternative viewpoint.
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:05
Throughout history, every socialist and hard left government has created an internal security agency above the law to suppress the people. The most well known were the stasi and securitate.
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 08:54
I'm trying to imagine a scenario in which Corbyn has become prime minister, introduced the secret police and then advised all citizens not to answer any of their questions.
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 08:45
that is the point, Corbyn would want his questions answered but doesn't think he has to answer
everyone else's questions. the man has shown his true colours - if he is elected as PM we will be a socialist pariah state in no time at all and we won't be able to walk the streets freely.
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Mon, 14 September 2015 23:22
Do you mean everyone else's or anyone else's?
Hang on, you were wooshing people about this earlier because you said you were joking about it all! http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/sherlock.gif
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 15:14
colonel
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:37
one one hand you suggest I'm wrong when I say the unions 'got their man', but then agree with jon1959 who makes it very clear statement that
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:32
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:20
I think most active union members would know that the majority of trade unions (through special conferences or executive decisions) supported Corbyn in the leadership election
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:17
so which is it:
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:14
1. the unions did endorse Corbyn and I was right when I said they got their man; or
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 14:05
2. jon1959 is wronbg, the unions didn't want Corbyn to win and I was mistaken when I said the unions 'got their man'
Somehow I think answer B was closer to the truth but you're not about to admit that, are you?
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 15:32
He's under no obligation to talk to people following him on the street, they continued to follow him and ask the same questions long after it had become clear he had no intention of talking to them.
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 15:16
I wouldn't mind betting he didn't want to give a Rupert Murdoch media outlet a story, although that didn't stop them uploading it anyway
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 15:14
I wonder when the left get their way and was have the stasi or securitate on the streets following us whether the mantra from Corbyn will be that we can just 'avoid' their questions.
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 15:13
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:11
What does this even mean?!
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:08
Corbyn is a socialist, socialists despise freedom of thought and speech. you only have to look at how the majority of socialists on here become apoplectic with rage when somewhere dare suggest an alternative viewpoint.
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 09:05
Throughout history, every socialist and hard left government has created an internal security agency above the law to suppress the people. The most well known were the stasi and securitate.
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 08:54
I'm trying to imagine a scenario in which Corbyn has become prime minister, introduced the secret police and then advised all citizens not to answer any of their questions.
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 08:45
that is the point, Corbyn would want his questions answered but doesn't think he has to answer
everyone else's questions. the man has shown his true colours - if he is elected as PM we will be a socialist pariah state in no time at all and we won't be able to walk the streets freely.
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Mon, 14 September 2015 23:22
Do you mean everyone else's or anyone else's?
Do you think that responding to a shouting media scrum is the most effective way to communicate his politics?
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 15:37
I was whooshing you and Kiffa. Lardy is an intellect and is funny, a man of my own heart
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Feedy on this thread
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_PWm2zgbg
He's making it up as he goes along.
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 15:52
Hang on, you were wooshing people about this earlier because you said you were joking about it all!
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 15:37
I was whooshing you and Kiffa. Lardy is an intellect and is funny, a man of my own heart
Still the crappest whoosh ever
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Originally Posted by lardy wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 15:39
Perhaps he will find it difficult to have the time to formulate his politics if he is answering questions from anyone who sees him in the street.
not at all. I think having a good PR team to manage the flow of information to the media would be best, but people like Archie seem to think its not necessary that Corbyn uses such strategies to get his message across.
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 15:52
Hang on, you were wooshing people about this earlier because you said you were joking about it all!
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 15:37
I was whooshing you and Kiffa. Lardy is an intellect and is funny, a man of my own heart
Ah right, you just don't know how a whoosh works http://www.ccmb.co.uk/images/smiley_icons/hehe.gif
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Originally Posted by Kiffa wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 15:53
Hang on, you were wooshing people about this earlier because you said you were joking about it all!
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 15:52
I was whooshing you and Kiffa. Lardy is an intellect and is funny, a man of my own heart
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 15:37
Still the crappest whoosh ever
not really. all day I've been posting in this thread. all day you and colonel have been chomping away despite my claim at the outset I wasn't being entirely serious.
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 15:54
Hang on, you were wooshing people about this earlier because you said you were joking about it all!
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 15:52
I was whooshing you and Kiffa. Lardy is an intellect and is funny, a man of my own heart
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 15:37
nice try, but you need to try harder
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Originally Posted by Feedback wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 15:52
Hang on, you were wooshing people about this earlier because you said you were joking about it all!
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Originally Posted by Colonel Cærdiffi wrote on Tue, 15 September 2015 15:37
I was whooshing you and Kiffa. Lardy is an intellect and is funny, a man of my own heart
This one definitely isn't a whoosh, right?
