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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Dorcus
Correct Big Apple. This time the opposition are running rings around us: another good reason for us to stay interlocked with them. As the saying goes ....."if you can't beat them, join them".
Another WB alt
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
delmbox
Reckon it’s going to be as bad as the millennium bug? You know when everything was going to stop working, planes crash etc....
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
The knots Leavers are now having to tie themselves in to try to justify their original decision would be hilarious if it wasn't such a serious situation.
Can anyone say that they had fully considered the fact that there may be shortages of crucial medicines for some patients as a result of us leaving the EU when they cast their vote Leave vote in 2016 - truthful answers would be appreciated as opposed to the usual "party line" stuff.
It would be sadly ironic of all those oldies who voted to leave, and we do, then struggle to get their much needed meds and meet their maker so to speak.....I wonder which way they would vote now knowing how useless all the politicians we have in uk and Europe.
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
goats
Reckon it’s going to be as bad as the millennium bug? You know when everything was going to stop working, planes crash etc....
I can't work out if we are getting whooshed or not.
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
goats
Reckon it’s going to be as bad as the millennium bug? You know when everything was going to stop working, planes crash etc....
The movement of tangible goods in the real world? Through recognised channels? But with no plan? As bad as a theoretical computer bug that governments and big business actually spent a lot of time and money preparing for? Hmmmmmm?
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
Corbyn is no fan of the EU, how can any real socialist support the EU's market Liberalism and it's consequences?
The EU may not be perfect but it's better than the alternative which is throwing ourselves to the alt-right wolves. If we want to reform the EU the answer is to stay in it.
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
rudy gestede
Another WB alt
I don't think so. WB would never have posted that reply
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Dorcus
I don't think so. WB would never have posted that reply
You would know.
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Dorcus
The EU may not be perfect but it's better than the alternative which is throwing ourselves to the alt-right wolves. If we want to reform the EU the answer is to stay in it.
I used to think that too. Cameron tried but he didn't get very far!
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
rudy gestede
Another WB alt
It's a fair cop, guv'nor. I'm actually everybody on here, besides you obviously. It's only ever been the two of us right from the start. Scary, hey? :wink:
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Gofer Blue
I used to think that too. Cameron tried but he didn't get very far!
He didn’t really try though did he?
I think there will be more incentive for change now though, if we stay the likes of Fartage will still push for Brexit and there will be a larger call for it.
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
lardy
I've had Bales on ignore for over a year. It was a swift improvement. I'll do Ronnie soon.
It was only because I kept on pointing out your continual stream of BS. Trump Russia Collusion my arse :biggrin:
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Taunton Blue Genie
It's quite amusing that someone spends so much time on here posting not realising that many people don't even see them.....
Please accept my humble apologies for explaining how you got duped by the Chrissy Ford fraud. Will you still talk to me if I pretend that you were right? :wink:
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
rs3100
He didn’t really try though did he?
I think there will be more incentive for change now though, if we stay the likes of Fartage will still push for Brexit and there will be a larger call for it.
The EU will never ever change.
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Funny how Diabetes UK disagrees with you. I think I know who I would trust with information on this.
What did they say then o wise one??
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Heisenberg
Are you suggesting stockpiling insulin?
I thought stockpiling food and medication was just Project Fear?
Interesting one, you are 🤔
Why am I interesting. My name isn't Steve Davies!
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
jon1959
The LSE and the Guardian are globalist central. If you want to learn about the EU I'm affraid you will have to look elsewhere, because all you are doing now is reinforcing your own confirmation biases.
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
What do people think should be in this report interests me , im sure if it was flimsy or less dramatic that would be wrong .
I would have saved thousands of pounds ,and just said this will be will be very painful , so agree a deal rather than findingnany means to block everything in its path.
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
jon1959
Rubbish. Corbyn supported Remain all through the Referendum campaign - and held more meetings, rallies etc than most of the people who since have accused him of the opposite - including the Lib Dem leader and most of his hostile MPs. He didn't get much press or media coverage for it though - the BBC and print press usually used Tory Remainers in their 'reports'.
Whatever he did or didn't do in that camapign would have made very little difference given the lies, exaggerations, and stunts that dominated the coverage.
Of course he is also a sceptic about the EU - wants reforms - and the roots of that go back to the 1970s and the EEC 'bosses club' referendum. But he has accepted the 'on balance' view of the vast majority of Labour members and trades unions that the EU is a force for progress and good - based mainly on the more recent evolution of laws and standards to protect citizens, workers rights and the environment.
Get off your crack pipe, man!
Corbyn office 'sabotaged' EU Remain campaign - sources
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36633238
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Elwood Blues
Why am I interesting. My name isn't Steve Davies!
Denouncing the fears of a no-deal Brexit whilst simultaneously reinforcing them.
It's a bold strategy, let's see if it pays off.
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Heisenberg
Denouncing the fears of a no-deal Brexit whilst simultaneously reinforcing them.
It's a bold strategy, let's see if it pays off.
So the government can't win in some peoples eyes.
If they stockpile they will be proving there is something to worry about.
If they are not they are being careless with peoples lives!!
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
It's a simple choice really. The globalist EU are aligned with Communist China, and as a free-trade nation we should allign ourselves with the USA & Japan, et al. The whole Brexit/Remain situation is about ideolgy.
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
That article says absolutely nothing. It was about the time that they were trying to shift him again by using dirty tricks because alot of labour MPs don't like his politics, you know the ones that the labour movement was founded on.Benn and his cronies were spanked all over town and kuennsberg had to stop doing that smug all knowing expression that she loved so much after Corbyn had romped the Labour leadership campaign for a second time.
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
It's a simple choice really. The globalist EU are aligned with Communist China, and as a free-trade nation we should allign ourselves with the USA & Japan, et al. The whole Brexit/Remain situation is about ideolgy.
The USA is China's biggest trading partner, isn't it?
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
That article says absolutely nothing. It was about the time that they were trying to shift him again by using dirty tricks because alot of labour MPs don't like his politics, you know the ones that the labour movement was founded on.Benn and his cronies were spanked all over town and kuennsberg had to stop doing that smug all knowing expression that she loved so much after Corbyn had romped the Labour leadership campaign for a second time.
Corbyn voted against joining the Common Market back in the 70s. He is not a Remainer, he is just trying to use the current political situation for his own benefit.
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/11...-deal-leave-EU
You would imagine that with all the practice he's had, Boris would be better at this lying business
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Elwood Blues
So the government can't win in some peoples eyes.
If they stockpile they will be proving there is something to worry about.
If they are not they are being careless with peoples lives!!
Sorry for any confusion, but I wasn't referring to the government in either of my posts. To clarify, I was referring to you suggesting the stockpiling of medication in the first post - which we know has been tarnished as 'Project Fear' by the pro-Brexit lot (of which you are one).
The second post was responding to you asking why I thought that you were "interesting". Once again, it's because you're suggesting stockpiling medication is a reasonable measure to take despite everyone with something to say, who voted to leave, will shoot down any suggestion that stockpiling food or medication will be a reality.
I'm not sure that you can have it both ways.
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
That article says absolutely nothing. It was about the time that they were trying to shift him again by using dirty tricks because alot of labour MPs don't like his politics, you know the ones that the labour movement was founded on.Benn and his cronies were spanked all over town and kuennsberg had to stop doing that smug all knowing expression that she loved so much after Corbyn had romped the Labour leadership campaign for a second time.
Whatever you have to say about the article, it's just nice to see WB using the BBC for his factual sources now. It'll be The Guardian next.
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
It's a simple choice really. The globalist EU are aligned with Communist China, and as a free-trade nation we should allign ourselves with the USA & Japan, et al. The whole Brexit/Remain situation is about ideolgy.
Would that be the same EU that has a new trade deal with Japan? This is why Honda are closing Swindon and Nissan halve cut investment in Sunderland.
Why make cars with uncertainty around tariffs when you can ship them in tariff-free from Japan.
Watch Toyota follow suit with Nissan to pull out come the new Qashqai, which is already built in Spain as the Renault Kadjar.
It absolutely beggars belief that Leavers are clinging on to their Brexitopia dream, when it was so obviously a sandcastle.
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
The USA is China's biggest trading partner, isn't it?
Yes, but they are in a trade war due to the current negotiations to reset the present trade imbalances. The option of free lunches that came about due to the globalist policies of previous US administrations have now been taken off the table, and their entire business model is under stress. The multinationals aren't happy, which is a good thing. Wealth is now going to flow back to the nations who enter into mutually beneficial trade deals (that's the USA & UK), and those who thrive on the free lunches (China & EU) will now have have to rethink their entire trade strategies. If you want to assess the true effects of Brexit, they have to be looked at over the longer term.
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
The Hooded Claw
Would that be the same EU that has a new trade deal with Japan? This is why Honda are closing Swindon and Nissan halve cut investment in Sunderland.
Why make cars with uncertainty around tariffs when you can ship them in tariff-free from Japan.
Watch Toyota follow suit with Nissan to pull out come the new Qashqai, which is already built in Spain as the Renault Kadjar.
It absolutely beggars belief that Leavers are clinging on to their Brexitopia dream, when it was so obviously a sandcastle.
Of course the EU will enter into trade deals with other countries, even with the UK post-Brexit, but the rules of the game are currently being changed by America and others.
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
It's a simple choice really. The globalist EU are aligned with Communist China, and as a free-trade nation we should allign ourselves with the USA & Japan, et al. The whole Brexit/Remain situation is about ideolgy.
The opposite is true.The sizable minority in the Tory parliamentary party believe that as we are the first democracy we should be answerable to no one.Its an ideology that dates back to the Empire days where a few elitist ruled the many.Rees-Mogg and his cronies don't give a fig about the possible hardship a cliff edge Brexit would do.The other thing you don't realise is that on a trade basis we are relatively small potatoes especially when you consider the fact that California has the fifth largest economy in the world.As a stand alone trading nation we would have nothing like the clout that the EU block has despite what these elitist Tories would have you believe
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
I'd be much more concerned if a sitting government DIDN'T look into all possible scenarios (good, bad, or terrible) surrounding a possible Brexit. That's their job, isn't it? To NOT have prepared for any eventuality would be very irresponsible. The fact that they seem to have done so quite thoroughly is one of the few bits of good news to come out of the recent political bun-fight.
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Corbyn voted against joining the Common Market back in the 70s. He is not a Remainer, he is just trying to use the current political situation for his own benefit.
Oh come on, so what? 40 years ago he voted against something and he couldn't possibly have changed his mind or recognised that the situation or question were different now?
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Eric Cartman
Oh come on, so what? 40 years ago he voted against something and he couldn't possibly have changed his mind or recognised that the situation or question were different now?
Corbyn is an opportunist.
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Corbyn is an opportunist.
I don't doubt that. We are talking about your methodology here, people do change their minds (some people even do it to pretend they were right all along).
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Heisenberg
Sorry for any confusion, but I wasn't referring to the government in either of my posts. To clarify, I was referring to you suggesting the stockpiling of medication in the first post - which we know has been tarnished as 'Project Fear' by the pro-Brexit lot (of which you are one).
The second post was responding to you asking why I thought that you were "interesting". Once again, it's because you're suggesting stockpiling medication is a reasonable measure to take despite everyone with something to say, who voted to leave, will shoot down any suggestion that stockpiling food or medication will be a reality.
I'm not sure that you can have it both ways.
Ah but you see I am not a Leaver
I voted Remain last time.
I would still probably vote Remain in any new referendum but I don't think we should have one.
In such a major change such as this it is only right to take steps to ensure things go as well as possible.
If that means stockpiling sensibly so be it.
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
sneggyblubird
The opposite is true.The sizable minority in the Tory parliamentary party believe that as we are the first democracy we should be answerable to no one.Its an ideology that dates back to the Empire days where a few elitist ruled the many.Rees-Mogg and his cronies don't give a fig about the possible hardship a cliff edge Brexit would do.The other thing you don't realise is that on a trade basis we are relatively small potatoes especially when you consider the fact that California has the fifth largest economy in the world.As a stand alone trading nation we would have nothing like the clout that the EU block has despite what these elitist Tories would have you believe
You are assuming that the EU block remains intact post-Brexit, and that the Tories will be in power forever.
The UK is strategically import to the US geopolitically. We have a seat on the security council, and are also their most important intelligence sharing ally. We are situated at the gateway to Europe, and nobody knows what the future holds. Britain may even start a new common market without a political union, or a European army :wink:
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
It's a simple choice really. The globalist EU are aligned with Communist China, and as a free-trade nation we should allign ourselves with the USA & Japan, et al. The whole Brexit/Remain situation is about ideolgy.
China is the world's second-largest economy and the USA's biggest trading partner. What the **** are you talking about?
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Re: Operation Yellowhammer
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Originally Posted by
NYCBlue
China is the world's second-largest economy and the USA's biggest trading partner. What the **** are you talking about?
And they are also being brought to heal, while US businesses move back to America. New supply chains are also under consideration. Without a trade reset, China post 2050 is a threat to America and the rest of the world. What the **** are you talking about?