Its for the best that the UK break up.
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Its for the best that the UK break up.
What about that video of Dominic Cummings where he very specifically says that the Tories don't care about poor people or the NHS? That's not a fantasy, it's right here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=-SdEbfJJiag
They are not my "precious" tories as you put it. I have voted for them but I have voted
Liberal Lib Dem and ( admittedly only at a local level because I knew the candidate) Labour in the past.
Someone made a point about Corbyn that disagree with.
Aren't I allowed to comment?
And note I haven't jumped to defend Boris.
I reckognise his many flaws, they are often indefensible.
Both main parties have deserted the centre ground and both have things about them I find unpalatable.
How am I supporting the Tories as if they were a football team
Pray tell
You didn't. It's blatantly clear that the Tories strategy for keeping Labour at arms length is to attack Corbyn. Never before has a political leader been smeared and lied about by the predominantly right wing press. Labour's brand of mild socialism scares the establishment and most wealthy, hence why Corbyn is the source of the attacks. The Tories know that Labour's policies are more popular - they can't attack them on that.
So back to my question. Is this more important than Labour's manifesto?
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Yes but Corbyn is a communist. Corbyn is a terrorist sympathiser. Corbyn is the anti Christ and eats babies for tea.
Never before has any U.K. politician been demonised in the way he has. It is disgusting
Sadly too many believe the gutter press and it has badly damaged him.
I'm not a political person, but the only reason the Tories are in government is because Labour have a class 1 tw@t in charge ...and for Wales Drakeford fkn clown - M4 Newport Bypass road and all that :furious::puke:
As you know Pearcey3 from years ago on an old rugger site that i'm no supporter of NuLabour [although Corbyn himself is old Labour, Parliamentary Labour is full of what I call Red Tories] but I would be the first to say that the press, plus disingenuous opponents of Labour and possibly some shady foreign powers that don't want Corbyn as Prime Minister are all doing a number on him.
I remember Labour doing a number on my team Plaid [ive always treated my politics like supporting a sports team] for years and years accusing them of all sorts of disingenuous sh*t and in my view damaging them at the polls, but two wrongs don't make a right and its not nice to see the way Corbyn is treated, obviously Plaid being the nicey nice party don't get involved in that nonsense.
I think we’ll all agree to disagree. Corbyn’s brand of Marxist socialism has never worked anywhere at any time in history - latest example, the aforementioned Venezuela, and when we have one of his cronies declaring that ‘Britain should not have any billionaires’ you know you’re in the politics-of-envy territory - big time. It’s not what I would ever want for this country and it’s certainly not what I’d ever want to experience, especially at my time of life. And I doubt any of you would either.
The top 1% of earners in this country pay roughly 28% of our taxes. Are they going to stick around if Madman McDonnell moves into no. 11? This country is one of the best in the world to live in, even with all our problems, that’s why people risk and lose their lives to get here to live and work. Corby and co would destroy it. They won’t get the chance, if the polls are correct, and I hope to God they are.
Of course it's fair enough if you want to vote for whichever party but it's the wilful sensationalism and outrage that feeds your thinking that doesn't do anyone any good. If you don't think Corbyn's numbers add up then fine, but what "Marxist socialist" policy is going to drag us under?
I'm not envious of someone with a billion pounds; I just find it baffling - why would anyone need that kind of cash? It's like having a three foot old boy - kind of impressive in a way but it's just for show and not much use to anyone else. Job creation? Most of them horde it and it's not good to give just the few that responsibility. (Besides, consumers create jobs).
Your whole post seems panicky, but why wouldn't it when we see our own PM using his old employer (the Telegraph) to compare Labour's tax rise for the rich as the equivalent of Stalin. But he comes up with this bullshit cos it works.
The ones that risk life & limb are being suckered in by unscrupulous bastards to work in slave like conditions, they’re unregistered, completely off the radar & working for a pittance & living in squalor I’d imagine. Cheap labour & inexpensive facilities & conditions has always appealed to a fair percentage of employers and seems to be quite widespread under Tory rule. With Brexit imminent, EU protection disappearing &, God forbid, another Tory government don’t rule out another influx of foreign labour with promises of streets paved with gold. I dread to think about the situation concerning workers rights, I hope I’m way off the mark but I foresee another ‘glut of labour, lack of work’ situation creeping in the unskilled, lower end of the scale jobs.
Uber & Deliveroo are two companies that’s been brought to book re. Workers rights, thanks to the EU. If legitimate workers feel they’re being treated unfairly they can, at the moment, question it, but you do realise that there’s still the fear factor among lower paid staff of reprisals should they ‘rock the boat’. The chance of ‘rocking the boat’ may very well disappear under a Tory government post brexit. The numbers of imported cheaper labour could very well increase under a deregulated system. Don’t you agree that legitimate workers rights have improved due to the EU? And do you agree that a post brexit Tory government could rip the rule book up?
There is good and bad in both parties. Im concerned that Corbyn's view of life is on the extreme left and will take us back to the 1970s should he get into power. The fact that a moderate like Tom Watson has resigned adds to that thought.
Johnson, to his credit has at least tried to get the Brexit situation sorted in the way we all voted ie to leave, and labour have done their best to delay that.
Both parties are promising more cash everywhere and I honestly think tipping more cash into things like the NHS will be wasted until the whole thing is restructured. I read yesterday that it can take doctors 15 minutes to log on to their laptops because they run on Windows 7...unbelievable.
As for a labour government.....we have one in Wales and over the last 20 years they have done very little in my opinion. We are still dependant on EU handouts and business is not exactly booming in Wales.
As for why people need billions....ask Gareth Bale, he might give you some insight
I don't mind people being millionaires but to be a billionaire you basically have to be a complete bastard shitting on anyone who works for you to get there and breaking numerous labour laws and making unethical decisions. Then why does anyone need to hoard a billion quid in the bank? Basically it's just removing all that money from the economy.
Also the top 1% may pay "28% of our tax" but how much of it should they really be paying? The answer is a lot more than 28%.
Edit and that is obviously just income tax it isn't 28% of the UK's tax budget
Quote:
In her column discussing the budget (9 March), Zoe Williams asserted that “the top 1% of British earners pay 27% of the United Kingdom’s tax”. No – this is wrong. The top 1% of earners pay 27% of income tax, but income tax raises just 27% of the UK’s total tax revenue. This is less than is raised by VAT and other indirect taxes (29%) and not much more than is raised by national insurance (19%).
I don't think a lot of people quite realise just how much money a billion is. Here's a couple of examples I saw, if it helps
-If you earned $45,000 a year and stashed it all under your mattress, you’d have one million dollars at the end of 22 years. To accumulate one billion dollars at that same rate, it would take 22,000 years
-One million seconds from now is about 11 and a half days away. One billion seconds from now is about 31 and a half years in the future
Like you said, there is absolutely zero chance that Gareth Bale is anywhere near being a billionaire, and the fact that people like lisvaneblue think that he is one explains a little ordinary working people seem so defensive of the insanely super rich when it comes to the statement that no one needs a billion pounds.
He definitely isn't.
Let's assume he's worth $100m now (which he isn't). If he had gone to China and signed for $1m a week, he would have to be on that until the age of 47 to become a billionaire (unrealistically assuming zero spending and zero interest and investment). But even earning an unimaginable amount of money, it takes a long time to make it to a billion.
You can't become a billionaire on hard work and luck - as you said in another post, you need to take advantage and exploit people too.