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Re: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently
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Originally Posted by
Dave Blue
Perhaps it’s not all down to racism but it is a hugely significant factor with the right wing press and their vile readers.
What a pathetic catch-all statement. Have you ever read a 'right-wing' newspaper or do you get physically sick as soon as you cast your eyes on the evil newsprint ? Poor love.
Initially Meghan was not treated badly by the tabloid press but in recent times her high mindedness and diva-like demands for privacy has irked the British public and this is the primary reason for her fall from grace. To the vast majority of people (including the right wing press and its "vile" readers) her skin colour is irrelevant.
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Re: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently
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Originally Posted by
delmbox
No, you've changed it now to being specifically about Meghan Markle, whereas before you raised the point about her, and a more general point about, in your own words, in the very first paragraph of the thread :
"I wonder is anyone else getting tired of hearing people using the race card when they disagree with someone?"
It's been pointed out multiple times in this thread that there are very valid reasons for people "playing the race card" and it's not "PC gone mad" and you've now changed your tune to "I was only talking about Meghan Markle"
For the umpteenth time - what is the title of this thread? Of course I was referring specifically to Meghan Markel!!!!!!!!! The "people" I am referring to was clearly the lady who was obviously getting quite angry when she spoke and was adamant that the abuse of Meghan Markel was racial. The actor guy disagreed with her so she then played the "but you are a priviliged white middle class bloke" card - might that not be considered a racist comment too?
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Re: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
Yes. But your saying “it’s been pointed out” as if certain posters opinions are gospel.
I see Gofer Blue has been registered on this board since 2009, so he should know how threads like the one he started here always end up - pages and pages of people going through slightly different versions of the same story, so I have a bit of a problem with the air of bemused innocence he has been putting over regarding the way the thread has developed.
I'd just like to ask a couple of questions. Firstly, isn't Laurence Fox implicitly accepting the concept of "white privelidge" with his I was born this way line? Second, regarding "uppity", can I ask what word first springs to mind to the contributors of this thread as the most likely one to follow it? For me, it's obvious and I'd be fascinated to know what those arguing about that word think is a more common accompaniment of it.
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Re: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently
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Originally Posted by
the other bob wilson
I see Gofer Blue has been registered on this board since 2009, so he should know how threads like the one he started here always end up - pages and pages of people going through slightly different versions of the same story, so I have a bit of a problem with the air of bemused innocence he has been putting over regarding the way the thread has developed.
I'd just like to ask a couple of questions. Firstly, isn't Laurence Fox implicitly accepting the concept of "white privelidge" with his I was born this way line? Second, regarding "uppity", can I ask what word first springs to mind to the contributors of this thread as the most likely one to follow it? For me, it's obvious and I'd be fascinated to know what those arguing about that word think is a more common accompaniment of it.
Not bemused innocence at all, more frustration with folk who apparently cannot/will not see what the OP has written. I accept your point though Bob, this is often the way threads develop - I guess it's just very frustrating when I am the OP on this occasion!
Re: Laurence Fox: I think the poor bloke was simply saying sorry lady but this is how I am, I cannot change it. I don't know if he was accepting any kind of concept.
Re: uppity. the only meaning I have ever come across until this thread was a word used to describe a snobbish person. I'm sure someone will now come along and say that as a closet racist I would say that wouldn't I!
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Re: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently
My mother used the word uppity about people when iIwas a boy in a time when racist in my area was virtually unheard of, mainly perhaps because there were no immigrants or persons of a different colour and therefore no perceived threat.
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Re: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
No white people who are ok are allright in my book
Its ignorant fools I have disdain for , whatever their background
I like the music of Lauren hill but shes got a problem with white people that is definitely racist
It takes all sorts
I can agree with that.
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Re: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
They may be much stronger over there, but that’s because it simply doesn’t mean the same thing over here. What’s so difficult to understand about that?
It’s a moot point. Grasping at straws reaches new levels on this board regularly.
It's difficult to understand why you're being dense. The meaning of a word and the connotation of a word are two different things - it's basic English. Like I pointed out, the word monkey means the same on both side of the pond (like uppity does) - but does the word have other connotations when it's in reference to a black person? The answer is yes and it's the same for 'uppity'. I've tried to explain it as best as I can.
If there are British people that have never heard the word uppity as referring to a black person (as TOBW said, it was often followed by the word n***er or negro') and think that because of that it can't possibly be racist to call a black person 'uppity' then they're just being ignorant. Before you point out that it's the other part of that sentence that's the racist bit, not uppity... the term was in widespread use so just the word 'uppity' was commonplace as a racist epithet.
Let's not forget where Meghan Markle is from if you want to play the 'it doesn't mean the same thing here as it does there' game, shall we? If a few tw*ts on a CCMB messageboard know what the connotations of the word are... don't you think trained media-types, editors and producers would have a better grasp of the situation than us?
We're never going to agree on this so it's up to you if want to argue with yourself.
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Re: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently
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Originally Posted by
Heisenberg
It's difficult to understand why you're being dense. The meaning of a word and the connotation of a word are two different things - it's basic English. Like I pointed out, the word monkey means the same on both side of the pond (like uppity does) - but does the word have other connotations when it's in reference to a black person? The answer is yes and it's the same for 'uppity'. I've tried to explain it as best as I can.
If there are British people that have never heard the word uppity as referring to a black person (as TOBW said, it was often followed by the word n***er or negro') and think that because of that it can't possibly be racist to call a black person 'uppity' then they're just being ignorant. Before you point out that it's the other part of that sentence that's the racist bit, not uppity... the term was in widespread use so just the word 'uppity' was commonplace as a racist epithet.
Let's not forget where Meghan Markle is from if you want to play the 'it doesn't mean the same thing here as it does there' game, shall we? If a few tw*ts on a CCMB messageboard know what the connotations of the word are... don't you think trained media-types, editors and producers would have a better grasp of the situation than us?
We're never going to agree on this so it's up to you if want to argue with yourself.
Point well-made sir.
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Re: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently
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Originally Posted by
Heisenberg
It's difficult to understand why you're being dense. The meaning of a word and the connotation of a word are two different things - it's basic English. Like I pointed out, the word monkey means the same on both side of the pond (like uppity does) - but does the word have other connotations when it's in reference to a black person? The answer is yes and it's the same for 'uppity'. I've tried to explain it as best as I can.
If there are British people that have never heard the word uppity as referring to a black person (as TOBW said, it was often followed by the word n***er or negro') and think that because of that it can't possibly be racist to call a black person 'uppity' then they're just being ignorant. Before you point out that it's the other part of that sentence that's the racist bit, not uppity... the term was in widespread use so just the word 'uppity' was commonplace as a racist epithet.
Let's not forget where Meghan Markle is from if you want to play the 'it doesn't mean the same thing here as it does there' game, shall we? If a few tw*ts on a CCMB messageboard know what the connotations of the word are... don't you think trained media-types, editors and producers would have a better grasp of the situation than us?
We're never going to agree on this so it's up to you if want to argue with yourself.
It's like the word bollocks we all know what it means everywhere.
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Re: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently
Best article I've read Trevor Phillip's is spot on .
https://mol.im/a/7900563
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Re: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently
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Originally Posted by
NYCBlue
I can agree with that.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/th...f-lauryn-hill/
If you're both referring to this, it's not true.
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Re: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
It's like the word bollocks we all know what it means everywhere.
Make your mind up. You didn’t know the connotations of ‘Uppity’ yesterday.
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Re: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently
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Originally Posted by
J R Hartley
Make your mind up. You didn’t know the connotations of ‘Uppity’ yesterday.
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I bet not many knew the connotations of uppity before this broke as a story it's all utter bollocks , Corbyn and Brexit are finished as a subject matter ,which has left a big gap in the woe is me need brigade so they seek another crusade to cling too.
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Re: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently
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Originally Posted by
Heisenberg
It's difficult to understand why you're being dense. The meaning of a word and the connotation of a word are two different things - it's basic English. Like I pointed out, the word monkey means the same on both side of the pond (like uppity does) - but does the word have other connotations when it's in reference to a black person? The answer is yes and it's the same for 'uppity'. I've tried to explain it as best as I can.
If there are British people that have never heard the word uppity as referring to a black person (as TOBW said, it was often followed by the word n***er or negro') and think that because of that it can't possibly be racist to call a black person 'uppity' then they're just being ignorant. Before you point out that it's the other part of that sentence that's the racist bit, not uppity... the term was in widespread use so just the word 'uppity' was commonplace as a racist epithet.
Let's not forget where Meghan Markle is from if you want to play the 'it doesn't mean the same thing here as it does there' game, shall we? If a few tw*ts on a CCMB messageboard know what the connotations of the word are... don't you think trained media-types, editors and producers would have a better grasp of the situation than us?
We're never going to agree on this so it's up to you if want to argue with yourself.
It's interesting that words can gain negative connotations but rarely lose negative connotations.
For the record, I was uninformed about the connotations before this thread. Nothing wrong with learning and being able to show more respect to different cultures/communities.
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The Queen is not racist but she guessed what was coming
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Re: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently
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Originally Posted by
Captain_Sensible
No, it's not that. She's made several statements over the years. And I know someone who worked with her. She's wrong, but I can see where she's coming from. For white people to hate races that they've colonized, used, and subjugated is hypocritical at best. At least African-Americans have a legitimate gripe.
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Re: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently
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J R Hartley
That’s just what I picture Heisenberg to look like 😂😂
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Re: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently
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Originally Posted by
Igovernor
The Queen is not racist but she guessed what was coming
Maybe she was concerned for her; maybe she thought "don't do this, love, it's a very strange institution and the bastards won't even let you retire otherwise you might taint their weird, infantile sense of identity." Or perhaps she was as fed up as she always looks.
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Igovernor
Really? Based on a single photo?
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Re: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently
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Originally Posted by
William Treseder
That’s just what I picture Heisenberg to look like 😂😂
Nah, he's better looking.
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Re: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently
This post makes me smile so pretentious.
When we getting back to evil Boris /Trump axis and the persecution of the Labour party .
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Re: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Didn't she divorce her first husband by text? I bet you could put together an interesting psychological profile for this lady, and there would be red flags all over the place.
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Re: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
This post makes me smile so pretentious.
When we getting back to evil Boris /Trump axis and the persecution of the Labour party .
I know mate. Can we also get back to different ethnicities not being British as well.
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Re: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently
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Originally Posted by
cyril evans awaydays
Didn't she divorce her first husband by text? I bet you could put together an interesting psychological profile for this lady, and there would be red flags all over the place.
Absolutely, if you have any understanding about that sort of thing. I hope Harry doesn't regret burning his bridges.
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Re: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Absolutely, if you have any understanding about that sort of thing. I hope Harry doesn't regret burning his bridges.
Oops my mistake. Turns out there isn't a shred of evidence that she divorced her first husband by text. That'll teach me for reposting fake news like this from dubious and ill-informed sources.
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Re: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently
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Originally Posted by
SLUDGE FACTORY
That actor is a posh privileged white boy who doesn't even allow the mixed race woman to finish her question
He hasn't suffered racism from the police , media , jobs market etc that black and mixed race people have and for him to say , as a white man , that britain is one of the least racist and most welcoming countries in europe is laughable along with the white people clapping him in the audience ......how the feck would he and they know about racism or wether britain is welcoming ? It doesn't affect them for christ sake
As for pritti patel , the ultimate uncle tom , happy that her parents have made the uk their home and shes done ok , but now wants to shut the borders
Stupid tart
Her behaviour is toxic. Throwing other PoCs under the bus to appease the right wing and further her own career.
https://inews.co.uk/opinion/the-powe...K68zwat_2J0tgs
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Re: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently
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Originally Posted by
life on mars
This post makes me smile so pretentious.
When we getting back to evil Boris /Trump axis and the persecution of the Labour party .
I think you should create a thread. One that is lifted straight from the Daily Mail comments section.
You’re just the man for the job and I’m happy to give you the attention that you have been craving throughout this thread.
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Re: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently
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Originally Posted by
cyril evans awaydays
Oops my mistake. Turns out there isn't a shred of evidence that she divorced her first husband by text. That'll teach me for reposting fake news like this from dubious and ill-informed sources.
I must have got her mixed up with another B-list actress. What she did do was dump her husband out of the blue and then sent the engagement and wedding rings back to him by post. Very classy. Apologies for the little error in the details, I am clearly not as obsessed with the woman as you are.
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Re: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Apologies for the little error in the details, I am clearly not as obsessed with the woman as you are.
And yet you know and have an opinion on how she dumped her husband and gave him the rings back. I for example, had no idea about any of that. And now that I do I consider it none of my business because I have no idea about their relationship. Hell he could have been an asshole to her as far as we know :shrug:
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Re: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
I must have got her mixed up with another B-list actress. What she did do was dump her husband out of the blue and then sent the engagement and wedding rings back to him by post. Very classy. Apologies for the little error in the details, I am clearly not as obsessed with the woman as you are.
Why are you so obsessed with her? And why are you so angry about someone who isn’t even in your life at all? This isn’t healthy.
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Originally Posted by
delmbox
And yet you know and have an opinion on how she dumped her husband and gave him the rings back. I for example, had no idea about any of that. And now that I do I consider it none of my business because I have no idea about their relationship. Hell he could have been an asshole to her as far as we know :shrug:
THIS MAN IS NOT PARTICIPATING IN THE DAILY HATE
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Originally Posted by
delmbox
And yet you know and have an opinion on how she dumped her husband and gave him the rings back. I for example, had no idea about any of that. And now that I do I consider it none of my business because I have no idea about their relationship. Hell he could have been an asshole to her as far as we know :shrug:
There is a new invention called Google, you should try it!
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Re: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
Why are you so obsessed with her? And why are you so angry about someone who isn’t even in your life at all? This isn’t healthy.
Where would you be without any drama in your life, hey? :hehe:
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Re: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently
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Originally Posted by
Gofer Blue
For the umpteenth time - what is the title of this thread? Of course I was referring specifically to Meghan Markel!!!!!!!!! The "people" I am referring to was clearly the lady who was obviously getting quite angry when she spoke and was adamant that the abuse of Meghan Markel was racial. The actor guy disagreed with her so she then played the "but you are a priviliged white middle class bloke" card - might that not be considered a racist comment too?
Do you understand what racism is?
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Re: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
Where would you be without any drama in your life, hey? :hehe:
This isn’t drama though it’s gossiping about a celeb that piers Morgan has told you not to like. I think if I found myself having such a strong opinion (especially a negative one) about someone I didn’t know and had zero actual affect on my life I’d start to worry.
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Re: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently
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Originally Posted by
Wales-Bales
There is a new invention called Google, you should try it!
I use it all the time to Google things I care about! Just like you!
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Re: Hounding of Meghan Markel by British tabloid press is racist apparently
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Originally Posted by
Croesy Blue
This isn’t drama though it’s gossiping about a celeb that piers Morgan has told you not to like. I think if I found myself having such a strong opinion (especially a negative one) about someone I didn’t know and had zero actual affect on my life I’d start to worry.
I don't need anybody to tell me anything, especially if they are part of the media.
